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Post by chiyankee on Jul 1, 2024 13:23:13 GMT -5
I know Gleyber is having a disappointing season, but if the Yankees trade him, who's playing second base?
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Post by qimqam on Jul 1, 2024 13:26:59 GMT -5
If Bellinger is having a down year why would he opt out of a deal that gives him 53mm over the next two season unless he thought he could get more? I don't think the Yanks want to take on that kind of a financial responsibility, particularly if they are serious about trying to resign Soto. We don't know what he is going to do 2nd half of the season ... If it's bad Cubs will wish that they had traded him If good he can walk ..either way he is probably not in their long term plan I think it's a very strong Leverage position for both teams Cubs have interest in Gleyber and Gleyber has interest in longer term security Bellinger has interest in the Yankees and the Yankees would be glad to have him under favorable conditions ...i.e waive the opt out. He's be a perfect fit for the Yankees for this season and next |
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Post by azbob643 on Jul 1, 2024 13:28:04 GMT -5
I know Gleyber is having a disappointing season, but if the Yankees trade him, who's playing second base? According to those who constantly spout anti-Gleyber sentiment, seems just about anyone would be a better option. |
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Post by qimqam on Jul 1, 2024 13:58:55 GMT -5
I know Gleyber is having a disappointing season, but if the Yankees trade him, who's playing second base? According to those who constantly spout anti-Gleyber sentiment, seems just about anyone would be a better option. They could give Vivas or Peraza a shot Bellinger would be a huge upgrade Offensively and Defensively at 1B or OF I wasn't Anti-Gleyber before this season ... I was hoping for a huge season and to resign him. The Huge season turned into the worst season of his career so far and resigning is clearly not going to happen at this point ... so why not make a trade to fill a position of more need |
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Post by 1955nyyfan on Jul 1, 2024 14:16:33 GMT -5
If Bellinger is having a down year why would he opt out of a deal that gives him 53mm over the next two season unless he thought he could get more? I don't think the Yanks want to take on that kind of a financial responsibility, particularly if they are serious about trying to resign Soto. We don't know what he is going to do 2nd half of the season ... If it's bad Cubs will wish that they had traded him If good he can walk ..either way he is probably not in their long term plan I think it's a very strong Leverage position for both teams Cubs have interest in Gleyber and Gleyber has interest in longer term security Bellinger has interest in the Yankees and the Yankees would be glad to have him under favorable conditions ...i.e waive the opt out. He's be a perfect fit for the Yankees for this season and next But in that scenario the Yanks would be committing almost $30mm to him next season before coming to a resolution on Soto, I just don't see it happening. |
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Post by fwclipper51 on Jul 1, 2024 14:35:13 GMT -5
I know Gleyber is having a disappointing season, but if the Yankees trade him, who's playing second base? According to those who constantly spout anti-Gleyber sentiment, seems just about anyone would be a better option. Anybody Except for Odor, who had signed a minor league deal with the Yankees. |
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Post by azbob643 on Jul 1, 2024 14:40:07 GMT -5
I wasn't Anti-Gleyber before this season ... I was hoping for a huge season and to resign him. The Huge season turned into the worst season of his career so far and resigning is clearly not going to happen at this point ... so why not make a trade to fill a position of more need As I've said, I don't necessarily oppose a trade that will help the team. That said, I've been very supportive of Gleyber for several years, as you well know. That support doesn't depend on which way the wind is blowing. He got off to a terrible start this year, which only gave more ammo to those who trashed him even while he was having an outstanding offensive year in '23. He's started to show a rebound, and while there are no guarantees, I wouldn't be surprised if he returns to last year's form. And if he does, I'd like to see the Yanks resign him, move him to 3B, and insert one of the prospects at 2B. |
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Post by qwik3457bb on Jul 1, 2024 14:52:13 GMT -5
Vlad has said repeatedly that the Yanks are the one team he would never want to play for. The Yanks would be foolish to try to force a square peg, albeit an extremely talented hitter, into the round hole. He softened his stance recently:
"Sometimes one says things. It is not that I am trying to take back what I said about the Yankees," Guerrero told Virus Deportivo on Monday. "But this is a business. I sat down and spoke with my dad [Vladimir Guerrero Sr.] and my family, and this is a business. And I said I would never again talk about this topic and lots of people have asked me about it."
"Like I tell you, I'm a player and if a team picks me or if they do something, it's because they need it, obviously, and I'll be happy to help any team," Guerrero told Virus Deportivo on Monday. "But right now, I'm just focused on helping my team try to get out of this bad streak."
Vladimir Guerrero Jr. open to possibility of trade to Yankees
Maybe, kaybli (hey! That rhymes! Well, sorta...), but I think his prior statements are his true feelings. I think he truly believes that the Yankees, or their fans, did something against his father than he considers irredeemable, and that, if traded to the Yankees, he would come to the team and honer his contract or time remaining before free agency and leave as soon as possibly. I wouldn't want a player, even an elite hitting talent, and Guerrero is one of those very rare elite hitting talens (as is Soto) on the team if he doesn't want to be here. Learned that leesson when Gary Sheffield forced his way out of New York, as he did almost every other place he played, to the detriment of all those teams. |
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Post by qwik3457bb on Jul 1, 2024 14:53:55 GMT -5
I wasn't Anti-Gleyber before this season ... I was hoping for a huge season and to resign him. The Huge season turned into the worst season of his career so far and resigning is clearly not going to happen at this point ... so why not make a trade to fill a position of more need As I've said, I don't necessarily oppose a trade that will help the team. That said, I've been very supportive of Gleyber for several years, as you well know. That support doesn't depend on which way the wind is blowing. He got off to a terrible start this year, which only gave more ammo to those who trashed him even while he was having an outstanding offensive year in '23. He's started to show a rebound, and while there are no guarantees, I wouldn't be surprised if he returns to last year's form. And if he does, I'd like to see the Yanks resign him, move him to 3B, and insert one of the prospects at 2B. That's a solid read of the situation. If he's hitting, the bat can cover at 3rd. Whether he has the quick reactions needed for the position is what I don't know. But they can try that, if they think it'll work. |
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Post by qwik3457bb on Jul 1, 2024 14:56:59 GMT -5
Vlad has said repeatedly that the Yanks are the one team he would never want to play for. The Yanks would be foolish to try to force a square peg, albeit an extremely talented hitter, into the round hole. I can't blame him for being mad at the Yankees, because I recently heard via Michael Kay that the Yankees had a deal with Vlad Sr when Vlad Sr. became a free agent. George nixed the signing because he wanted to sign Sheffield.
May he rest in peace, but that was another mistake by George. Sheff was a good player, but Vladdy was an excellent player.
George did something similar when he stole David Wells from the D'backs. They though they had an agreement with Wells, when the Yanks rushed in at the last moment to outbid them and steal him away. As a result, they traded Schilling to the Red Sox, and 2004 was the result. Then they raised the price for Johnson much higher than the one the Sox paid for Schilling, and that trade didn't work out nearly as well for the Yanks as the Schilling trade did for Boston. |
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Post by azbob643 on Jul 1, 2024 15:14:44 GMT -5
As I've said, I don't necessarily oppose a trade that will help the team. That said, I've been very supportive of Gleyber for several years, as you well know. That support doesn't depend on which way the wind is blowing. He got off to a terrible start this year, which only gave more ammo to those who trashed him even while he was having an outstanding offensive year in '23. He's started to show a rebound, and while there are no guarantees, I wouldn't be surprised if he returns to last year's form. And if he does, I'd like to see the Yanks resign him, move him to 3B, and insert one of the prospects at 2B. That's a solid read of the situation. If he's hitting, the bat can cover at 3rd. Whether he has the quick reactions needed for the position is what I don't know. But they can try that, if they think it'll work. We've seen him make several plays in recent games in which he demonstrated he has the quick reactions needed. The play he made recently snagging a rocket line drive to his right, while he was playing in, then doubling up the runner at 3B speaks for itself. There had been a question as to whether he has the arm to play 3B...that's been put to rest. I've previously posted info/stats which debunk the myth that he doesn't. In fact, many scouts projected him as a 3B while he was in the minors...limited range, strong arm. Screams 3B. |
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Post by 1955nyyfan on Jul 1, 2024 15:33:36 GMT -5
That's a solid read of the situation. If he's hitting, the bat can cover at 3rd. Whether he has the quick reactions needed for the position is what I don't know. But they can try that, if they think it'll work. We've seen him make several plays in recent games in which he demonstrated he has the quick reactions needed. The play he made recently snagging a rocket line drive to his right, while he was playing in, then doubling up the runner at 3B speaks for itself. There had been a question as to whether he has the arm to play 3B...that's been put to rest. I've previously posted info/stats which debunk the myth that he doesn't. In fact, many scouts projected him as a 3B while he was in the minors...limited range, strong arm. Screams 3B. Gleyber is making 14.2 mm this season. What do you think would be a fair offer from the Yankees to bring him back? Would you go multi years or a one year prove it deal? I think Gleyber likes playing in NY and also think he might take a little less from the Yankees to stay in pinstripes. |
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Post by qimqam on Jul 1, 2024 15:39:12 GMT -5
We don't know what he is going to do 2nd half of the season ... If it's bad Cubs will wish that they had traded him If good he can walk ..either way he is probably not in their long term plan I think it's a very strong Leverage position for both teams Cubs have interest in Gleyber and Gleyber has interest in longer term security Bellinger has interest in the Yankees and the Yankees would be glad to have him under favorable conditions ...i.e waive the opt out. He's be a perfect fit for the Yankees for this season and next But in that scenario the Yanks would be committing almost $30mm to him next season before coming to a resolution on Soto, I just don't see it happening. Gleyber, Verdugo and Rizzo coming off the payroll ... I beleive the Yankees have between $100m and $120m coming off payroll next season |
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Post by rizzuto on Jul 1, 2024 15:59:01 GMT -5
Vlad has said repeatedly that the Yanks are the one team he would never want to play for. The Yanks would be foolish to try to force a square peg, albeit an extremely talented hitter, into the round hole. I can't blame him for being mad at the Yankees, because I recently heard via Michael Kay that the Yankees had a deal with Vlad Sr when Vlad Sr. became a free agent. George nixed the signing because he wanted to sign Sheffield.
May he rest in peace, but that was another mistake by George. Sheff was a good player, but Vladdy was an excellent player.
Vlad, Sr. also was a better defensive player without any PED nonsense. Sheff could be a jerk, too. Vlad was one of the best bad ball hitters that ever played. |
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Post by rizzuto on Jul 1, 2024 16:02:10 GMT -5
I know Gleyber is having a disappointing season, but if the Yankees trade him, who's playing second base? Who's on first. |
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