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Post by inger on Jul 28, 2024 11:58:11 GMT -5
I woke this morning a bit later than usual and anxiously checked the forum to see who we had acquired. Next I expect we’re going to get a presser stressing who’s coming back and how they’ll be more beneficial than anyone we could have traded for. We’ll also hear how none of the trades we could have made “made sense” as we watch our prospects rot on the vine and our 35-year old has beens continue to play… The refrain remains the same. Sittin’ on the dock of the bay, wasting ti-i-I-I-ime… |
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Post by fwclipper51 on Jul 28, 2024 13:27:10 GMT -5
Been down this road before Clipper. I don't care who was in Martin's doghouse, there have been many players there. At least one I know of is in the Hall of Fame. The Yankees also didn't need any help that season since they were basically a lock to win the AL East. So...The answer is the same... The Yankees traded good prospects especially McGregor and Martinez for players that were no longer on the Yankees roster a couple of years after that trade. The trade was made in 1976, Alexander and Jackson weren't with the Yankee in 1977, and Holtzman pitched 71. 2 inning for the Yankees in 1977 and 17.2 inning for the Yankees in 1978. Holzman's Yankee career ERA is 4.64.
Meanwhile...McGregor was an Ace his first 5 full seasons with the Orioles. With the help of Dempsey, Martinez and McGregor the Orioles went on to the world series in 1979 and won the world series in 1983. Meanwhile the Yankees could have used those players in 1981. The Orioles-Yankees trade was made on June 15, 1976, with Pitchers starter Doyle Alexander (10-5) and veteran Reliever Grant Jackson (6-0) involved in the deal. Both pitchers would leave the team in the fall of 1976, Alexander to due MLB Free Agency, signing with the Texas Rangers and Grant Jackson loss in the AL Expansion team player draft by the new Seattle Mariners. Doyle Alexander wanted a player contract clause that he would pitch every 5 days, Yankees GM Gabe Paul rejected the contract ideal by his agent Jerry Kapstein. Trying to win a World Series championship with starting shortstop Jim Mason wasn't ideal, hence the Bucky Dent trade with the White Sox was made on April 5, 1977. As for Ken Holtzman, another case of Billy Martin's dog house mentality towards his pitchers, even fellow starter Catfish Hunter was stunned by his actions. Also in May of 1976, another one of Martin' doghouse creatures Pitcher Larry Gura was traded to the Royals for Reserve Catcher Fran Healy. |
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Post by inger on Jul 28, 2024 13:27:49 GMT -5
Snell is the latest name to be linked to the Yankees. If so, with his contract I hope the Yankees don't trade too much for him. I was hoping that ship had sailed… |
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Post by fwclipper51 on Jul 28, 2024 13:32:42 GMT -5
Yankees, Padres Interested In Blake Snell
By Mark Polishuk | July 28, 2024 at 10:40am CDT MLB Rumors
The Yankees and Padres are two of the teams expressing interest in left-hander Blake Snell, the New York Post’s Jon Heyman writes (links to X). Reports surfaced earlier this week that Snell was drawing interest from pitching-needy contenders, and New York and San Diego are the 1st clubs specifically known to gotten in touch with the Giants over Snell’s availability.
It remains to be seen if the Giants will actually move Snell, or be deadline sellers in any real capacity given that the team is still just 4.5 games out of a NL wild card berth. Snell is himself a major factor in San Francisco’s renewed hopes of contention, as the southpaw has been almost untouchable since returning from the injured list. Over his last four starts, Snell has a 0.75 ERA and a 35.7% strikeout rate, highlighted by a 15-strikeout gem of an outing against the Rockies yesterday.
This is the type of rotation-carrying production was what the Giants were hoping to receive when they signed the reigning Cy Young Award winner to a 2-year, $62MM deal back in March. However, Snell’s lengthy stint in free agency and subsequent lack of proper Spring Training work wreaked havoc on his performance, resulting in 2 IL stints (with an adductor strain and a groin strain) and a 9.51 ERA over his 1st 6 starts in a Giants uniform.
This recent injury history will obviously weigh on the minds of any team that does approach the Giants about a Snell trade, not to mention the fact that Snell can opt out of the second year (and $30MM salary) of his contract. The presence of this opt-out clause means that Snell isn’t exactly a rental player, thus creating extra financial risk for an acquiring team, and some difficulty in working out an acceptable trade package with San Francisco. Snell’s recent form increases the chances that he might exercise his player option, but if any more injury issues arise, Snell could pass on his opt-out and remain on the books for that hefty $30MM payday next year.
Snell is naturally a known quantity to the Padres after pitching with San Diego from 2021-2023, but the financial aspect of a Snell trade is particularly noteworthy for a Padres team that is trying to remain under the luxury tax threshold this season, in order to reset its penalty status after 2 years of overages. San Diego’s acquisition of Jason Adam from the Rays earlier today resulted in a pretty minor financial hit, though the Padres had to give up a hefty prospect package to obtain the reliever. Payroll aside, there is also the broader fact that it seems rather unlikely that the Giants would trade Snell to a division rival.
The Bronx Bombers have long had Snell on their radar, and the 6-year, $150MM offer Snell reportedly received from the Yankees in January is the highest contract known to be on the table for the left-hander during his elongated free agent market. As Heyman notes, the luxury tax is also a factor given that New York has already topped the upper tier ($297MM) of tax penalties. RosterResource estimates that the Yankees’ Competitive Balance Tax number is just shy of $312.9MM, and thus they would face a 110% tax on any further salaries added to their ledger.
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Post by fwclipper51 on Jul 28, 2024 13:40:58 GMT -5
Yankees, Dodgers In "Bidding War" For Paredes?
By Mark Polishuk | July 28, 2024 at 8:54am CDT MLB Rumors
Conversely, the Rays and Dodgers have lined up on several trades over the years, including the blockbuster deal that sent Glasnow to Los Angeles just this past offseason. This could help the Dodgers in working out a Paredes trade, who would likely play 3rd base with Max Muncy’s recovery from an oblique strain still up in the air. Since Muncy is signed through at least 2025 and Paredes would be a longer-term addition, 1 of the 2 could likely be moved to 2nd base in 2025, which also helps the Dodgers’ middle infield picture to some extent. The Rangers, Astros, and Mariners are among the other teams who have been linked to Paredes in recent rumors, though intriguingly, Nightengale writes that the Yankees and Dodgers are in a “bidding war” over the All-Star infielder.
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Post by desousa on Jul 28, 2024 13:47:38 GMT -5
Paredes to the Cubs.
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Post by fwclipper51 on Jul 28, 2024 13:48:49 GMT -5
From MLB Rumors
Yankees Acquire Jazz Chisholm Jr.
By Nick Deeds | July 28, 2024 at 12:59am CDT
Jazz Chisholm Jr. is on his way to the Big Apple. The Yankees announced they’ve acquired Chisholm from the Marlins for 3 prospects: Catcher Agustin Ramirez and 2 Infielders Jared Serna and Abrahan Ramirez.
Chisholm, 26, was a consensus top-100 prospect when the Marlins acquired him from the Diamondbacks in the deal that sent right-hander Zac Gallen to Arizona. While Gallen has blossomed into one of the NL’s top starters since arriving in the desert, Chisholm’s time in Miami has been far less consistent. After a rookie 2021 campaign where he split time between shortstop and 2nd base with roughly league average offense, Chisholm committed to 2nd full-time in 2022 and broke out in a big way with an excellent .254/.325/.535 (136 wRC+) slash line that year. Unfortunately, Chisholm’s All-Star campaign was cut short by a stress fracture in his back that limited him to just 60 games that year.
That injury combined with the Marlins’ lack of quality options in the outfield led Miami to move Chisholm out of the infield ahead of the 2023 season, installing him in center field. The results of that experiment were somewhat mixed, as Chisholm took a step backwards on offense with a 103 wRC+ and was limited to just 97 games by a bout of turf toe, but proved to be surprisingly solid defensively in center with +4 Outs Above Average, although Defensive Runs Saved disagreed with that assessment and graded him as one of the ten worst outfield defenders in the sport last year with a -14 figure. Chisholm’s offense hasn’t rebounded much in 2024 as he’s slashing .249/.323/.407 (104 wRC+) on the year, but his defensive metrics have settled in a bit more to paint him as a roughly scratch defender (+1 OAA, -4 DRS) in center field. Perhaps most importantly, the youngster has stayed healthy and on the field this year as he’s appeared in 101 of Miami’s 104 games while even getting some work in at 2nd base again in recent weeks.
Chisholm’s versatility is surely part of what makes him an attractive addition for the Yankees. While Aaron Judge and Juan Soto’s otherworldly 2024 campaigns have kept the Yankees offense afloat for the most part to this point and allowed the club to post a solid 60-45 record overall, they’ve gone just 6-13 in the month of July thanks in part to a lackluster supporting cast that has seen only Catcher Austin Wells post above average numbers by measure of wRC+ among healthy Yankees players with at least 100 PA this year not named Judge or Soto.
With so many spots in the lineup that could do with an upgrade, Chisholm’s slightly better than average bat and versatility figure to be a major asset for the Yankees. SNY’s Andy Martino was among those to suggest following news of the trade that Chisholm’s position with the Yankees is not yet fully set in stone, and it’s easy to see why. Chisholm’s ability to play center could allow Manager Aaron Boone to turn to struggling LF Alex Verdugo, who has posted a wRC+ of just 56 since the start of June, less often while pushing Judge to a less taxing spot in the outfield or perhaps even allowing him to DH on days where both Chisholm and Verdugo are roaming the outfield.
On the other hand, Gleyber Torres is having a relative down season (96 wRC+) as the club’s regular 2nd baseman and 3rd base has been a massive hole for the Yankees all season, though neither Torres nor Chisholm have any experience at the hot corner in the majors. Given Torres’s excellent 119 wRC+ against lefties and Verdugo’s brutal 63 wRC+ against fellow southpaws this season, it’s possible even to imagine Chisholm (who sports a decent 96 wRC+ against southpaws in spite of his own lefty bat) playing the outfield against lefty starters while mixing into the infield more often against righties, allowing the Yankees to play matchups more effectively for both Verdugo and Torres, especially in the event that New York brass don’t want to have either Chisholm or Torres learn 3rd base on the fly.
Of course, another factor in Chisholm’s value to the Yankees is the fact that he’s controlled through the end of the 2026 season. For an offense that figures to see Soto, Torres, Verdugo, J.D. Davis, and perhaps Anthony Rizzo all depart for MLB free agency following the 2024 campaign, adding Chisholm to the lineup as a long-term building block alongside sluggers Judge and Giancarlo Stanton as well as youngsters Wells, Anthony Volpe, and Ben Rice offers the Yankees the ability to decide Chisholm’s long-term home on the diamond based on both his defensive performance and the needs of the roster surrounding him in an offseason where re-signing Soto figures to be the top priority. It’s possible to imagine Chisholm settling in as a fixture of the club’s mix in either the infield or outfield depending on both the club’s external additions this winter and the performance of up-and-coming youngsters in the club’s system like INF Oswald Peraza and OF Jasson Dominguez, both of whom could vie for everyday roles in 2025.
As for the Marlins, they’ll receive a package of 3 prospects in return for the youngster who has been the club’s lone productive hitter this year ever since Luis Arraez was dealt to San Diego back in May. The closest to making an impact at the major league level of that group is Ramirez, a 22-year-old Catcher who is already on the 40-man roster and reached the Triple-A level earlier this year. The youngster is just the #20 prospect in the Yankees system according to MLB Pipeline, but is a far more robust 3rd in the system according to Baseball America.
A bat-1st catcher who slashed an impressive .290/.372/.570 in 58 games at the Double-A level this year prior to his promotion to the next level, Ramirez offers enticing raw power and a knack for making contact in the zone, though upper-level breaking balls have given him trouble and both Pipeline and BA suggest that he’ll need to improve his swing decisions a bit to reach his potential as a hitter. Scouts have plenty of questions about whether or not Ramirez will be able to stick behind the plate in the majors, though there’s optimism that he’ll have a future in the big leagues even if he ends up moving off catcher to a more offensively demanding position like 1st base.
Also heading to Miami in the return is Serna, a 22-year-old infielder in the midst of a solid season at the High-A level. The club’s #19 prospect per Pipeline and #11 prospect per BA, Serna has slashed a respectable .253/.341/.444 in 88 games with the Yankees’ affiliate in Hudson Valley while swiping 11 bags and slugging 13 HRs, although his body doesn’t project for much more power and he’s expected to slug at below average levels in the majors. Serna is also viewed as unlikely to stick at shortstop long-term, with BA noting that his fringey arm means he’s likely to end up at 2nd base although he does have experience in the outfield and at the hot corner as well.
As for the latter Ramirez, he signed with the Yankees out of Venezuela back in 2022 on a $30,000 bonus (h/t Jesse Sanchez of MLB.com) and made his stateside debut earlier this year. In 49 games in complex ball this year, the 19-year-old has looked good with an excellent .348/.447/.513 slash line in 189 trips to the plate while splitting time between shortstop as well as 2nd and 3rd base. Ramirez is not ranked within the Yankees’ top-30 prospects by any major public-facing evaluators at the moment, although given his youth and big numbers in complex ball it wouldn’t be a shock to see him make some noise in that regard with Miami at some point in the future.
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Post by inger on Jul 28, 2024 13:58:00 GMT -5
Paredes to the Cubs…
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Post by azbob643 on Jul 28, 2024 14:03:56 GMT -5
They've been looking for a 3B with some pop for quite some time. Cub fan relatives had suggested they'd have interest in bring Gleyber back next year. |
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Post by fwclipper51 on Jul 28, 2024 14:12:21 GMT -5
From MLB Rumors
Cubs Acquire Isaac Paredes
By Mark Polishuk | July 28, 2024 at 1:48pm CDT
The Cubs have acquired infielder Isaac Paredes from the Rays, according to Marc Topkin of the Tampa Bay Times (X link). Christopher Morel headlines a three-player package heading back to Tampa in return, as per MLB.com’s Mark Feinsand, with two prospects also included. Those two younger players are right-handers Hunter Bigge and Ty Johnson, The Athletic’s Sahadev Sharma reports.
Paredes has been a popular figure in trade rumors in recent days, with such teams as the Dodgers, Astros, Rangers, and Mariners all linked to the All-Star. Instead, a more surprising suitor has won the bidding, as Paredes will instead go to a Cubs team that sits in last place in the NL Central with a 50-56 record.
Still, it isn’t entirely surprising that the Cubs have made such a bold move, as the team is clearly aiming to contend in 2025 after stumbling to their disappointing result this year. President of baseball operations Jed Hoyer said earlier this week that the Cubs’ deadline moves would be made with an eye towards competing next season as opposed to making a late run now, though Paredes is certainly a boost to Chicago’s lineup right now.
There are also some long-term ties at play, since Paredes began his pro career as an international signing for the Cubs back in 2015. He was moved along with Jeimer Candelario to the Tigers at the 2017 deadline in the trade that brought Alex Avila and Justin Wilson to Chicago and Paredes made his MLB debut in a Detroit uniform in 2020.
Acquired in a trade with the Tigers early in the 2022 season, Paredes emerged as a very productive regular over his 3 years in Tampa. He has a 129 wRC+ over his 1377 plate appearances in a Rays uniform, highlighted by a 31-HR season in 2023 and an All-Star appearance this year. Despite a recent slump, Paredes is still hitting .247/.355/.438 with 16 HRs this season, across 425 PA while getting regular work at both corner infield spots.
Most of that work came at 3rd base, and Paredes figures to take right over from Morel at the hot corner at Wrigley Field. Paredes’ glovework as a 3rd baseman has been more solid than outstanding, yet even average defense is a big upgrade from Morel, whose struggles in the field have been well documented.
More to come…
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Post by azbob643 on Jul 28, 2024 14:25:26 GMT -5
Thought for awhile Colorado native David Bote was the answer at 3B. Unfortunately, Cubs eventually soured on him. |
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Post by qwik3457bb on Jul 28, 2024 14:28:04 GMT -5
Just to beach and moan a little, the Yanks were done with the Rays, but the O's and Red Sox aren't, and Paredes has killed the Yanks multiple times. And the Yanks still have to play a series in Wrigley, while the O's and Sox have already played the Cubs. Not suggesting a conspiracy, just whining a bit. |
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Post by desousa on Jul 28, 2024 14:34:47 GMT -5
Gloria just came in from her garden because it was too hot to be outside. She suggested we do the Sunday NY Times crossword together. So much for me staring at my Twitter feed and the Bronx Bomber Board site the rest of the day for trade updates.
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Post by chiyankee on Jul 28, 2024 14:36:48 GMT -5
Snell is the latest name to be linked to the Yankees. If so, with his contract I hope the Yankees don't trade too much for him. Snell had 15 strikeouts yesterday in just 6 innings. |
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Post by qwik3457bb on Jul 28, 2024 14:37:28 GMT -5
The other two guys going back to the Rays are Hunter Bigge, a hard throwing righty-reliever who was mentioned as possibly taking the Cubs' closer role at some point. He has a FB averaging 98, a slider and a curve, and Ty Johnson, a starting pitcher in high A that the Cubs drafted in the 12th round last year.
Longerhagen at Fangraphs had Bigge as the Cubs #33 prospect in May, but apparently, he's improved considerably. The Rays might be thinking of using him to replace Fairbacnks and Adam (who they also just traded) as their closer if they deal Fairbanks. Johnson was not on his top 45 list for the Cubs.
The Rays have now traded away Eflin, Paredes, Arozarena, Adam and Phil Maton.
Wow. I didn't realize that the Padres gave the Rays Dylan Lesko in the Adam deal. Typical Rays.
Lesko was a regarded as the best pitcher available in the 2022 draft, but he tore is ACL and underwent TJ surgery. Despite the surgery, the Padres took him with the 15th pick. He was top 100 on both BA and MLB Pipeline as well as #109 at Fangraphs while recovering from the surgery before last year, before he'd even thrown a pitch, and was top 100 in those places, and top 100 in all three of those (#76 at Fangraphs) and Baseball Prospectus before this season. His control hasn't remotely comeback, and while he was expected to progress quickly this year, he was still in A-bal with a walk rate over 6 1/2 per 9 innings and an ERA of 6.46 at the time of the trade. I wouldn't bet against the Rays turning him into yet another cheap ace.
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