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Post by ypaterson on Jan 20, 2024 12:32:45 GMT -5
I can't blame Cashman for not giving a $100 M deal to a guy who quit on his last team.... I didnt see many people saying the Yankees had to go out and get Hader prior to him signing with Houston. In Fact it was quite the opposite There are days I think we (Yankee fans) are spoiled and want every free agent on the market. |
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Post by inger on Jan 20, 2024 12:48:41 GMT -5
I mean last year. What went wrong? How have we corrected that? A full season of Judge, Rizzo and Soto will make a huge difference. I am worried about the rotation, I thought they should have added another starter. A lot of IFS, but the biggest two are Rodon who is ace quality at the top of his game, and Cortes who was near ace-quality before he had the bad arm last year. If those two return to form this team will have pitching out the yazoo. If not, it’s a scramble… |
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Post by azbob643 on Jan 20, 2024 12:50:18 GMT -5
I didnt see many people saying the Yankees had to go out and get Hader prior to him signing with Houston. In Fact it was quite the opposite There are days I think we (Yankee fans) are spoiled and want every free agent on the market. And have to have an all-star at every position. |
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Post by inger on Jan 20, 2024 12:52:58 GMT -5
There are days I think we (Yankee fans) are spoiled and want every free agent on the market. And have to have an all-star at every position. Five aces in the rotation and 8 closers that can all throw 102 in the pen… |
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Post by qimqam on Jan 20, 2024 13:00:46 GMT -5
I dont consider making the playoffs a failure ... Only 1 Team wins the WS and it's usually the hottest team during the playoffs (See last season) Last year 2023 was clearly Injuries ... Previous years ... other teams (usually Houston), were the better or hotter team in the post season I mean last year. What went wrong? How have we corrected that? Judge broke his toe due to negligence ... That wont happen again Rizzo got concussed on a flukey collison ... That likely wont happen Trevino missed most of last season because of wrist surgery ... I'd expect a big improvement from him Stroman was signed and should be better than any Yankee starting pitcher other than Cole last season Soto, Verdugo , Grisham is a massive upgrade in the OF campared to last season * That alone should make the Yankees 10-15 games better than last year Now if Rodon and Nester could bounce back and be just 80% of what they were 21/22 ... I think they Yankees will be one of the Top 3 if not the top team in baseball. Also IMO ... Schmidt is primed for a breakout season after a career high 32 starts and 159 innnings |
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Post by bruner4329 on Jan 20, 2024 13:33:57 GMT -5
I mean last year. What went wrong? How have we corrected that? Judge broke his toe due to negligence ... That wont happen again Rizzo got concussed on a flukey collison ... That likely wont happen Trevino missed most of last season because of wrist surgery ... I'd expect a big improvement from him Stroman was signed and should be better than any Yankee starting pitcher other than Cole last season Soto, Verdugo , Grisham is a massive upgrade in the OF campared to last season * That alone should make the Yankees 10-15 games better than last year Now if Rodon and Nester could bounce back and be just 80% of what they were 21/22 ... I think they Yankees will be one of the Top 3 if not the top team in baseball. Also IMO ... Schmidt is primed for a breakout season after a career high 32 starts and 159 innnings If Stroman ends up being better than any other starter except Cole we are in trouble. Rodon was signed to be a number 2. If he does not perform to that level it is a big issue. Stroman is a 3-4 guy in a rotation. Schmidt was a 5 inning pitcher last year. When he started going through the order a 3rd time it was an issue. Cortez is a wild card. When he is healthy he is good but he hasn;t been able to stay off the IL the last 2 seasons. The bullpen lacks depth. Peralta will be missed if not signed and Loisaga always end up on the IL for a few months. |
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Post by 1955nyyfan on Jan 20, 2024 13:36:54 GMT -5
I didnt see many people saying the Yankees had to go out and get Hader prior to him signing with Houston. In Fact it was quite the opposite There are days I think we (Yankee fans) are spoiled and want every free agent on the market. I think there are a couple things that contribute to this mentality. As I've said before, recent Yankee teams have been poorly constrcted. It seems to me that every year we go into the offseason with multiple gaping holes on the roster. We have not done a good enough job plugging those holes with young home grown players (hopefully, that trend is changing just a bit). We are a big market team so fans expect us to be active in the FA Market. Relying on the FA market too much however is a bad strategy as we have seen. |
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Post by Max on Jan 20, 2024 13:39:08 GMT -5
Hader is a difference maker. They could have used some of that Yamamoto money to sign him. It is like Ground Hog's day all over. Instead of going the extra mile to finish the team, we are once again in dumpster diving mode. I can almost predict what will happen as we get close to the season. During spring training one of our starters will come up with a sore arm, shoulder tightness or some similar form of injury and not be available until mid-May-June. Down a starter we will fill the gap with minor league pitchers on innings limits that at best give us 4 innings. By mid to late June the bullpen will be spent having to get 12 outs in most games. Holmes will at some point start blowing saves through his wildness and then at the trade deadline Cashman will give up viable assets to get a pitcher that turns out to be a bust. Sound familiar?
Stevenson signed a team friendly contract with the Angels. That's 2 Closers off the free agent market.
In my opinion, the counter move the Yankees should make is sign Neris. |
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Post by Max on Jan 20, 2024 13:43:35 GMT -5
Anything longer than 2 years is nuts Sign Peralta and let someone else spend the money on Neris.
I wonder what the Pirates would want in a trade for David Bednar?
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Post by bruner4329 on Jan 20, 2024 13:44:36 GMT -5
I can't blame Cashman for not giving a $100 M deal to a guy who quit on his last team.... I didnt see many people saying the Yankees had to go out and get Hader prior to him signing with Houston. In Fact it was quite the opposite Not necessarily Hader but some bullpen help yes. The bullpen right now is weaker than last year. WE lost some depth in the Soto trade. King was a big part of the pen until he started games in September. Peralta is still a FA and we have a couple of guys who either missed last year or spent a lot of time on the DL, I love Loisaga but he is never healthy. |
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Post by Max on Jan 20, 2024 13:45:19 GMT -5
What is your reason for our recent failures? I dont consider making the playoffs a failure ... Only 1 Team wins the WS and it's usually the hottest team during the playoffs (See last season) Last year 2023 was clearly Injuries ... Previous years ... other teams (usually Houston), were the better or hotter team in the post season I couldn't agree more. |
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Post by chiyankee on Jan 20, 2024 13:46:35 GMT -5
Sign Peralta and let someone else spend the money on Neris.
I wonder what the Pirates would want in a trade for David Bednar?
lol, they might hang up on Cashman after the Holmes trade.  |
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Post by Max on Jan 20, 2024 13:50:01 GMT -5
I dont consider making the playoffs a failure ... Only 1 Team wins the WS and it's usually the hottest team during the playoffs (See last season) Last year 2023 was clearly Injuries ... Previous years ... other teams (usually Houston), were the better or hotter team in the post season I mean last year. What went wrong? How have we corrected that?
What went wrong for the Yankees was a lot of their key players went on the IR, not sure there's a way to correct that. The Yankees did correct their LF situation, they also added more offense to their line up.
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Post by Max on Jan 20, 2024 13:51:51 GMT -5
I can't blame Cashman for not giving a $100 M deal to a guy who quit on his last team.... I didnt see many people saying the Yankees had to go out and get Hader prior to him signing with Houston. In Fact it was quite the opposite
You heard me say it on 2 different message boards that the Yankees should try to sign Hader. |
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Post by Max on Jan 20, 2024 13:54:55 GMT -5
I didnt see many people saying the Yankees had to go out and get Hader prior to him signing with Houston. In Fact it was quite the opposite There are days I think we (Yankee fans) are spoiled and want every free agent on the market.
That's why I said if the Yankees didn't make Hader a competitive offer, it might be their off season blunder. Who knows? Maybe Cashman made him a fair offer, but Hader chose the Astros.
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