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Post by posadafan24 on Feb 17, 2024 16:35:56 GMT -5
So they use one pitch more than others . But the overall results , especially the starting pitchers show they havent bern much better at all. I mean german was still the 4 era pitcher he was before blake showed up . Blake couldnt fix sevy last season , tailon was an inconsistent pitcher under him , monty still had a bit more success after he left . I never said blake wasnt good but he isnt the miracle worker that some say he is either . There is a graph that shows how under Blake, the staff composite ERA, FIP and BABIP have all improved dramatically and are near MLB League Leaders. For the bullpen yes but for the stsrters the team era just last year was at around the 7th or 8th at around 4 . Not bad but let's not forget that was mainly cole . Until king was put in the rotation , cole was the only guy in the rotation with an era of under 4 last year . Again Blake is good and much better than rothschild but he is no miracle worker either .
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Post by 1955nyyfan on Feb 17, 2024 17:52:51 GMT -5
There is a graph that shows how under Blake, the staff composite ERA, FIP and BABIP have all improved dramatically and are near MLB League Leaders. For the bullpen yes but for the stsrters the team era just last year was at around the 7th or 8th at around 4 . Not bad but let's not forget that was mainly cole . Until king was put in the rotation , cole was the only guy in the rotation with an era of under 4 last year . Again Blake is good and much better than rothschild but he is no miracle worker either . Considering the Yankee SP staff was devistated by injuries and had a lot of guys pitching who may not even have had back of the rotation stuff starting, I'd say 7th or 8th is better than not bad. I'd also argue that innings beyond the first 5 are as important as the opening 5 and the overall stats are excellent. Cole certainly helped the numbers, but he probably only accounted for between 20-25% of the innings thrown by the starters. Earlier in the thread you agreed with a post saying Blake should be gone. You added he did nothing for the starters and limited success with the pen. One pitcher you cited for being inconsistent was Holmes. Do you know what a mess Holmes was before coming to the Yankees? In your response to my last post you said Blake is "good". Which is it, he should be gone or he is good?
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Post by azbob643 on Feb 17, 2024 18:16:40 GMT -5
Earlier in the thread you agreed with a post saying Blake should be gone. You added he did nothing for the starters and limited success with the pen. One pitcher you cited for being inconsistent was Holmes. Do you know what a mess Holmes was before coming to the Yankees? In your response to my last post you said Blake is "good". Which is it, he should be gone or he is good? Do you actually expect any consistency from this clown?
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Post by posadafan24 on Feb 17, 2024 19:22:50 GMT -5
For the bullpen yes but for the stsrters the team era just last year was at around the 7th or 8th at around 4 . Not bad but let's not forget that was mainly cole . Until king was put in the rotation , cole was the only guy in the rotation with an era of under 4 last year . Again Blake is good and much better than rothschild but he is no miracle worker either . Considering the Yankee SP staff was devistated by injuries and had a lot of guys pitching who may not even have had back of the rotation stuff starting, I'd say 7th or 8th is better than not bad. I'd also argue that innings beyond the first 5 are as important as the opening 5 and the overall stats are excellent. Cole certainly helped the numbers, but he probably only accounted for between 20-25% of the innings thrown by the starters. Earlier in the thread you agreed with a post saying Blake should be gone. You added he did nothing for the starters and limited success with the pen. One pitcher you cited for being inconsistent was Holmes. Do you know what a mess Holmes was before coming to the Yankees? In your response to my last post you said Blake is "good". Which is it, he should be gone or he is good? I didnt agree that he should be gone , that part i dont agree with . I apologize for making it seem like that . But i do agree with everything else in regards to not being impressed by blake . I just dont think he is the miracle worker that people say he is
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Post by bomberhojoe on Feb 17, 2024 19:24:50 GMT -5
From a podcast with Joel Sherman, I Said Heyman, and David Cone... Joel Sherman after meeting Yamamoto: "I'm five foot ten. Now, if Yamamoto is five foot ten, then I'm in the NBA." So glad the Yankees didn't sign Yamamoto! I believe he will have an unspectacular career.
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Post by inger on Feb 17, 2024 19:58:19 GMT -5
From a podcast with Joel Sherman, I Said Heyman, and David Cone... Joel Sherman after meeting Yamamoto: "I'm five foot ten. Now, if Yamamoto is five foot ten, then I'm in the NBA." So glad the Yankees didn't sign Yamamoto! I believe he will have an unspectacular career. I’m still uncertain of his viability, but I believe as an untested MLB pitcher the money and years were both unreal…
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Post by chiyankee on Feb 17, 2024 21:10:41 GMT -5
From a podcast with Joel Sherman, I Said Heyman, and David Cone... Joel Sherman after meeting Yamamoto: "I'm five foot ten. Now, if Yamamoto is five foot ten, then I'm in the NBA." So glad the Yankees didn't sign Yamamoto! I believe he will have an unspectacular career. It's strange that the Yankees were willing to blow well past the tax threshold for Yamamoto but don't seem interested in any of the free agent starters that are still available.
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Post by posadafan24 on Feb 17, 2024 21:14:14 GMT -5
So glad the Yankees didn't sign Yamamoto! I believe he will have an unspectacular career. It's strange that the Yankees were willing to blow well past the tax threshold for Yamamoto but don't seem interested in any of the free agent starters that are still available. [b Its not like they exactly all out for yamamoto . They were outbid by the mets who were used by yamamoto to get a mstching offer from the dodgers .
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Post by inger on Feb 17, 2024 21:39:04 GMT -5
So glad the Yankees didn't sign Yamamoto! I believe he will have an unspectacular career. It's strange that the Yankees were willing to blow well past the tax threshold for Yamamoto but don't seem interested in any of the free agent starters that are still available. Maybe they’re waiting until mid spring training so they can see if Warrren or even Hampton is opening eyes. To see if Rodon and or Cortez are truly well. Get a look at Gil and see where his comeback is. I’d feel better if we could nab a swing man like Clevinger. Someone that would like to be a starter but will accept a relief role and keep himself ready for an emergency start without complaint. I thought the offer for Yamamoto was as large (and probably larger) than the Yanks should have been tolerant of. It doesn’t matter one iota if we got him or who made a higher bid. I see a great risk at that price…
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Post by chiyankee on Feb 18, 2024 10:53:00 GMT -5
Take it for what it's worth.
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Post by inger on Feb 18, 2024 12:07:51 GMT -5
Take it for what it's worth. I’d like that better…
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Post by Oburg Bob on Feb 18, 2024 13:49:22 GMT -5
Take it for what it's worth. I’d like that better… ------ I'd think long and hard about committing to him for more than 2 or 3 years with player or team opt outs included. It's a hard no for me if he wants more guaranteed years. ------ Oburg Bob
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Post by 1955nyyfan on Feb 18, 2024 13:58:05 GMT -5
------ I'd think long and hard about committing to him for more than 2 or 3 years with player or team opt outs included. It's a hard no for me if he wants more guaranteed years. ------ Oburg Bob Maybe we could give him a billion dollars with deferred payments until 2050?
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Post by Rockaway Park on Feb 18, 2024 14:02:48 GMT -5
Sign Snell = Playoffs.
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Post by Oburg Bob on Feb 18, 2024 14:17:52 GMT -5
]Maybe we could give him a billion dollars with deferred payments until 2050?[/quote] ------- I wouldn't need to worry about but my grandkids would 🙂------ Oburg Bob
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