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Post by posadafan24 on Jan 12, 2024 18:01:00 GMT -5
And its not a good record at all for a team thats supposed to have world series aspirations every year and the kind of payrolls it has .
He has a big payroll, because he's put together a good team. By the way...
I looked at the Dodgers and see a team that didn't win the world series since the 80's if the ridiculous covid season isn't include. The Rays haven't won anything. Tell me what happened when the Braves went up against the Cashman's Yankees in the world series. The Rangers? They won once, and how many bad seasons did they have before they won a world series? The same applies to the Astros.
the braves dodgers and rays have been to more ws in the last 10 years than the yankees have so far . So yeah i stand by what i said . And like it or not the astros have been to more ws than the yankees have in the last 20 years so far . So again i stand by what i said |
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Post by Max on Jan 12, 2024 18:03:33 GMT -5
He has a big payroll, because he's put together a good team. By the way...
I looked at the Dodgers and see a team that didn't win the world series since the 80's if the ridiculous covid season isn't include. The Rays haven't won anything. Tell me what happened when the Braves went up against the Cashman's Yankees in the world series. The Rangers? They won once, and how many bad seasons did they have before they won a world series? The same applies to the Astros.
the braves dodgers and rays have been to more ws in the last 10 years than the yankees have so far . So yeah i stand by what i said . And like it or not the astros have been to more ws than the yankees have in the last 20 years so far . So again i stand by what i said Tell me who's won more world series since Cashman's been the Yankees GM? |
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Post by posadafan24 on Jan 12, 2024 18:06:09 GMT -5
the braves dodgers and rays have been to more ws in the last 10 years than the yankees have so far . So yeah i stand by what i said . And like it or not the astros have been to more ws than the yankees have in the last 20 years so far . So again i stand by what i said Tell me who's won more world series since Cashman's been the Yankees GM? Stick micheal and bob watson . They are the ones mainly responsible for 98 to 00 . Learn your history man |
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Post by Max on Jan 12, 2024 18:11:33 GMT -5
Tell me who's won more world series since Cashman's been the Yankees GM? Stick micheal and bob watson . They are the ones mainly responsible for 98 to 00 . Learn your history man You left out Buck Showalter. I know my history, and you're showing your lack of it, amongst other things. Let's try again...Who's won more world series since Cashman's been the Yankees GM? |
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Post by posadafan24 on Jan 12, 2024 18:37:33 GMT -5
Stick micheal and bob watson . They are the ones mainly responsible for 98 to 00 . Learn your history man You left out Buck Showalter. I know my history, and you're showing your lack of it, amongst other things. Let's try again...Who's won more world series since Cashman's been the Yankees GM? I already answered that question . Cashman shouldnt get credit for 98-00 . If you want a much more accurate idea of how cashman has been as gm just look at how the team has done since he got full control after the 03 season and thats just 1 ws appearance in 20 years . Even the mets matched that record |
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Post by Max on Jan 12, 2024 18:50:39 GMT -5
You left out Buck Showalter. I know my history, and you're showing your lack of it, amongst other things. Let's try again...Who's won more world series since Cashman's been the Yankees GM? I already answered that question . Cashman shouldnt get credit for 98-00 . If you want a much more accurate idea of how cashman has been as gm just look at how the team has done since he got full control after the 03 season and thats just 1 ws appearance in 20 years . Even the mets matched that record Do the Yankees get past the Mariners without David Justice? Tell me who traded for him? Wouldn't you agree that El Duque was a big part of the Yankees dynasty teams? Do you know who was the Yankees GM that signed him? Hint: It was the same GM that traded for Clemens, the same Clemens that played a big role in the Yankees success. |
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Post by posadafan24 on Jan 12, 2024 19:16:31 GMT -5
I already answered that question . Cashman shouldnt get credit for 98-00 . If you want a much more accurate idea of how cashman has been as gm just look at how the team has done since he got full control after the 03 season and thats just 1 ws appearance in 20 years . Even the mets matched that record Do the Yankees get past the Mariners without David Justice? Tell me who traded for him? Wouldn't you agree that El Duque was a big part of the Yankees dynasty teams? Do you know who was the Yankees GM that signed him? Hint: It was the same GM that traded for Clemens, the same Clemens that played a big role in the Yankees success. Cashman traded for justice because george demanded cashman to go out and trade for another bat because the offense was struggling badly that season . Oh and it was george who pushed cashman to trade for clemens because he had been after clemens since he became a free agent and went to the jays instead . Just like hal forced cashman to trade for soto just days after cashman said that he refused to give up both king and thorpe for soto . |
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Post by inger on Jan 12, 2024 21:22:14 GMT -5
Do the Yankees get past the Mariners without David Justice? Tell me who traded for him? Wouldn't you agree that El Duque was a big part of the Yankees dynasty teams? Do you know who was the Yankees GM that signed him? Hint: It was the same GM that traded for Clemens, the same Clemens that played a big role in the Yankees success. Cashman traded for justice because george demanded cashman to go out and trade for another bat because the offense was struggling badly that season . Oh and it was george who pushed cashman to trade for clemens because he had been after clemens since he became a free agent and went to the jays instead . Just like hal forced cashman to trade for soto just days after cashman said that he refused to give up both king and thorpe for soto . By the same token in recent years Hal had refused to increase his budget while other teams were increasing theirs… |
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Post by vtfan on Jan 12, 2024 21:56:07 GMT -5
posadafan is correct. In the same way, and as other posters have noted, Cashman's early and almost only successes while a GM were mostly due either to George or Bob Watson's moves along with Gene Michael's influence. If Belichick has to leave the Patriots after unbelievable successes in the "Big" game, so can Cashman go after his lack of successes in the "Big" game.
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Post by posadafan24 on Jan 12, 2024 23:57:41 GMT -5
Cashman traded for justice because george demanded cashman to go out and trade for another bat because the offense was struggling badly that season . Oh and it was george who pushed cashman to trade for clemens because he had been after clemens since he became a free agent and went to the jays instead . Just like hal forced cashman to trade for soto just days after cashman said that he refused to give up both king and thorpe for soto . By the same token in recent years Hal had refused to increase his budget while other teams were increasing theirs… You are right but this thread is about cashman and how he has been as GM . Its not about hal at all . |
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Post by inger on Jan 13, 2024 0:24:14 GMT -5
By the same token in recent years Hal had refused to increase his budget while other teams were increasing theirs… You are right but this thread is about cashman and how he has been as GM . Its not about hal at all . That may be convenient for you, but I don’t accept that. Cashman works for Hal, who creates the budget and also has the final say over any deal Cashman constructs. You are not allowed to dismiss anyone else’s comments just because it’s convenient for you to do so. You wouldn’t like it if others dismissed yours. We all get the same amount of space in the sandbox… |
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Post by posadafan24 on Jan 13, 2024 1:22:45 GMT -5
You are right but this thread is about cashman and how he has been as GM . Its not about hal at all . That may be convenient for you, but I don’t accept that. Cashman works for Hal, who creates the budget and also has the final say over any deal Cashman constructs. You are not allowed to dismiss anyone else’s comments just because it’s convenient for you to do so. You wouldn’t like it if others dismissed yours. We all get the same amount of space in the sandbox… Cashman gets a lot more freedom than most gms do . In fact almost no GM would survive the crap cashman has over the years . Add to that one of cashman’s conditions to constantly come back was full control over baseball operations . Hal doesnt really care what cashman does and the last few years prove that . That being said i never once said hal wasnt to blame for why the yankees are what they are now or why they havent won a ws in so long . My posts in this thread have been about how i feel about cashman since that was the question asked in the poll. Another reason why i responded like i did was because as much as I dislike hal , he is the owner and isnt going anywhere anytime soon so there is really no point in drawing out a convo about him . But i did do that in another thread . And btw you may not have to accept that but i do prefer to stick to the topic of the thread and that topic is cashman not hal . And how did i dismiss your comment when i AGREED with you??? I only pointed out that this thread is about cashman not hal . |
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Post by inger on Jan 13, 2024 5:18:33 GMT -5
That may be convenient for you, but I don’t accept that. Cashman works for Hal, who creates the budget and also has the final say over any deal Cashman constructs. You are not allowed to dismiss anyone else’s comments just because it’s convenient for you to do so. You wouldn’t like it if others dismissed yours. We all get the same amount of space in the sandbox… Cashman gets a lot more freedom than most gms do . In fact almost no GM would survive the crap cashman has over the years . Add to that one of cashman’s conditions to constantly come back was full control over baseball operations . Hal doesnt really care what cashman does and the last few years prove that . That being said i never once said hal wasnt to blame for why the yankees are what they are now or why they havent won a ws in so long . My posts in this thread have been about how i feel about cashman since that was the question asked in the poll. Another reason why i responded like i did was because as much as I dislike hal , he is the owner and isnt going anywhere anytime soon so there is really no point in drawing out a convo about him . But i did do that in another thread . And btw you may not have to accept that but i do prefer to stick to the topic of the thread and that topic is cashman not hal . And how did i dismiss your comment when i AGREED with you??? I only pointed out that this thread is about cashman not hal . If you don’t understand I don’t see the point in trying to explain it to you… |
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Post by posadafan24 on Jan 13, 2024 5:55:53 GMT -5
Cashman gets a lot more freedom than most gms do . In fact almost no GM would survive the crap cashman has over the years . Add to that one of cashman’s conditions to constantly come back was full control over baseball operations . Hal doesnt really care what cashman does and the last few years prove that . That being said i never once said hal wasnt to blame for why the yankees are what they are now or why they havent won a ws in so long . My posts in this thread have been about how i feel about cashman since that was the question asked in the poll. Another reason why i responded like i did was because as much as I dislike hal , he is the owner and isnt going anywhere anytime soon so there is really no point in drawing out a convo about him . But i did do that in another thread . And btw you may not have to accept that but i do prefer to stick to the topic of the thread and that topic is cashman not hal . And how did i dismiss your comment when i AGREED with you??? I only pointed out that this thread is about cashman not hal . If you don’t understand I don’t see the point in trying to explain it to you… Yeah because i didnt dismiss what you said, i said you were right but that hal wasnt the topic of this thread which it isnt . Dismissing you would have been if i just said hal wasnt the topic of this thread and then said nothing more . Cant dissmiss something you acknowledge to be true are valid . |
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Post by ypaterson on Jan 13, 2024 10:44:04 GMT -5
For a long time, I defended Cashman, but the trades at the 2021 and 2022 deadlines were highly questionable. For me, the Montas trade was the final straw. Even if none of the pitchers traded to the A's makes it big, they traded for a pitcher whose health was an extreme risk, and they got less than nothing for 3 viable pitching prospects. I now think that after 25 years in charge of the organization, the Yankees need another man's philosophy/vision in charge of the team. As Robert Kraft concluded earlier this week, sports is a bottom line business. Despite the history the past decade disappointed Yankee fans. Bellichick did not win without Brady and Cashman did not win without Jeter. Time to move on. |
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