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Post by bigjeep on Jan 3, 2024 17:56:14 GMT -5
Or is he handicapped because of Hal's personal hard cap? I know this has been beat to death,  but I'm new here! Lots of fans blame Cashman, but I always gave him a pass because of Hal with the tight money cap! But lately, I'm not so sure! When we had that mini rebuild and could of had a murders row of Bird, Judge, Stanton and our new Babe Ruth Sanchez, things looked bright like in the 90's. Andular, Fraiser and Torres! Cashman looked like a genus! Then with injuries it crumbled like a house of cards! |
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Post by kaybli on Jan 3, 2024 18:17:51 GMT -5
The subject is “is it time for cashman to go?” While the poll question is “still like cashman?” I vote yes to subject and no the poll. He should have been gone years ago. Last years 82 win season was the peak of his unfortunate roster management including bad trades like the Donaldson one, prospects who failed to deliver, playing players out of position, and a lack of left handed hitters in the lineup just to name a few grievances. Most importantly no WS appearances since 2009. Don’t forget the arrogance as shown in his unhinged interview with reporters after the season was over.
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Post by rizzuto on Jan 3, 2024 18:23:59 GMT -5
Yes, Cashman should have been fired when he saw no place in the line up for free agent Bryce Harper, saying the Yankees had Clint Frazier and Aaron Hicks and Aaron Judge in the outfield. Cashman should have been fired when he constructed a team of right-handed batters when half of the team's games are played in a stadium designed for left-handed hitters. Cashman should have been fired when he insisted on trading for Javy Vazquez not once but twice. Cashman should have been fired for keeping Gary Sanchez too long and then trading for Josh Donaldon's 60 million dollar remaining contract and leaving a hole in left field, when he could have simply dumped Sanchez and purchased a left fielder. I could go on and on.
Is Hal his father? Not even close, but Cashman is not exactly Billy Beane when speaking of roster money allocation and acquiring assets. What other GM in his career (and in the history of baseball for that matter) has had access to more money than Brian Cashman-Magoo?
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Post by inger on Jan 3, 2024 19:43:33 GMT -5
I think I’m going to wait until spring to reply here. We’re either done with roster construction, or we may still see upheaval…
I do feel that he’s been doing what a good soldier should do in following the owner into hell, defending the budget he’s been assigned to defend….
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Post by bomberhojoe on Jan 3, 2024 19:50:47 GMT -5
I have never been impressed with Cashman. I think he rode Gene Michael's talent pool for many years, and had the benefit of the highest payroll for many more years. He should have been gone a long time ago.
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Post by chiyankee on Jan 3, 2024 19:56:08 GMT -5
I think I’m going to wait until spring to reply here. We’re either done with roster construction, or we may still see upheaval… I do feel that he’s been doing what a good soldier should do in following the owner into hell, defending the budget he’s been assigned to defend…. But the budget he has now should be enough to win with, it's more than teams that are winning the World Series. That's the problem, Cashman wastes more money as much as any GM in the game. |
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Post by inger on Jan 3, 2024 20:10:14 GMT -5
I think I’m going to wait until spring to reply here. We’re either done with roster construction, or we may still see upheaval… I do feel that he’s been doing what a good soldier should do in following the owner into hell, defending the budget he’s been assigned to defend…. But the budget he has now should be enough to win with, it's more than teams that are winning the World Series. That's the problem, Cashman wastes more money as much as any GM in the game. There have been mistakes made, no doubt. Injuries have been a big factor. Bad years were expected at some point with Stanton, not now. Sanchez turning into a complete mess. Sonny Gray being a NY pumpkin. All Gallo had to do was keep his BA over .200. He couldn’t. The response had been to stock AAA with players that were in the way of promoting our prospects and using them exhaustively. Maybe the worst thing was the error of believing that 2019 and the next man up could be normal results… |
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Post by bigjeep on Jan 3, 2024 20:34:36 GMT -5
But the budget he has now should be enough to win with, it's more than teams that are winning the World Series. That's the problem, Cashman wastes more money as much as any GM in the game. There have been mistakes made, no doubt. Injuries have been a big factor. Bad years were expected at some point with Stanton, not now. Sanchez turning into a complete mess. Sonny Gray being a NY pumpkin. All Gallo had to do was keep his BA over .200. He couldn’t. The response had been to stock AAA with players that were in the way of promoting our prospects and using them exhaustively. Maybe the worst thing was the error of believing that 2019 and the next man up could be normal results… One of the big problems we have with players is finding players that can take the pressure of playing in NY! Sonny Gray is a prime example along with Gallo! I called him Rainy Gray when he was here. We see players a lot of times leave us after failing and then picking up their careers again! |
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Post by rizzuto on Jan 3, 2024 20:51:36 GMT -5
There have been mistakes made, no doubt. Injuries have been a big factor. Bad years were expected at some point with Stanton, not now. Sanchez turning into a complete mess. Sonny Gray being a NY pumpkin. All Gallo had to do was keep his BA over .200. He couldn’t. The response had been to stock AAA with players that were in the way of promoting our prospects and using them exhaustively. Maybe the worst thing was the error of believing that 2019 and the next man up could be normal results… One of the big problems we have with players is finding players that can take the pressure of playing in NY! Sonny Gray is a prime example along with Gallo! I called him Rainy Gray when he was here. We see players a lot of times leave us after failing and then picking up their careers again! Sonny Gray's splits were comical at home (6.98) as opposed to on the road (3.17). He blamed the Yankee pitching coaches for his failure in Pinstripes, but that makes no sense looking at his splits. |
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Post by Max on Jan 4, 2024 12:40:10 GMT -5
In my opinion, overall Cashman has been a good GM. But those trades for Donaldson and Montas are probably his worst trades. I think the Yankees would hire a new GM is if 1 of these 3 things happen...The Yankees don't make the playoffs in 2024, Cashman makes a stupid trade, or if Soto doesn't re-sign with the Yankees. To be fair, Cashman did inherit a good team, but he did add key players to the Yankees dynasty team. |
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Post by qimqam on Jan 4, 2024 13:31:07 GMT -5
Never had a problem with cashman until the last couple of seasons
But after these 2 absolute disasterous trades that were 100% on Cashman and avoidable ... my mind has changed
1 - Monty (Upcoming LHP) for Bader (a guy who had never played a full season and was already injured) - Just Inexcuseable
2 - Montas - Who was a terrible pitcher outside of Oak Collisium and he was also already injured - What kind of stupidity is that !?!?!?
3 - Stanton - Can't fault him for making the trade at the time but should have realized the mistake 2-3 years ago ... Cashman shouldve been making an all out effort to get rid of Stanton including eating half of his contract (I dont want to hear about the No Trade BS - Players are traded all of the time despite no Trade Clauses)
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Post by bigjeep on Jan 4, 2024 13:59:17 GMT -5
Never had a problem with cashman until the last couple of seasons But after these 2 absolute disasterous trades that were 100% on Cashman and avoidable ... my mind has changed 1 - Monty (Upcoming LHP) for Bader (a guy who had never played a full season and was already injured) - Just Inexcuseable 2 - Montas - Who was a terrible pitcher outside of Oak Collisium and he was also already injured - What kind of stupidity is that !?!?!? 3 - Stanton - Can't fault him for making the trade at the time but should have realized the mistake 2-3 years ago ... Cashman shouldve been making an all out effort to get rid of Stanton including eating half of his contract (I dont want to hear about the No Trade BS - Players are traded all of the time despite no Trade Clauses) How true, just pathetic!  |
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Post by kaybli on Jan 4, 2024 18:19:08 GMT -5
Never had a problem with cashman until the last couple of seasons But after these 2 absolute disasterous trades that were 100% on Cashman and avoidable ... my mind has changed 1 - Monty (Upcoming LHP) for Bader (a guy who had never played a full season and was already injured) - Just Inexcuseable 2 - Montas - Who was a terrible pitcher outside of Oak Collisium and he was also already injured - What kind of stupidity is that !?!?!? 3 - Stanton - Can't fault him for making the trade at the time but should have realized the mistake 2-3 years ago ... Cashman shouldve been making an all out effort to get rid of Stanton including eating half of his contract (I dont want to hear about the No Trade BS - Players are traded all of the time despite no Trade Clauses) Don't forget the Donaldson trade. What a stinker that was.  |
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Post by bigjeep on Jan 4, 2024 19:38:36 GMT -5
Never had a problem with cashman until the last couple of seasons But after these 2 absolute disasterous trades that were 100% on Cashman and avoidable ... my mind has changed 1 - Monty (Upcoming LHP) for Bader (a guy who had never played a full season and was already injured) - Just Inexcuseable 2 - Montas - Who was a terrible pitcher outside of Oak Collisium and he was also already injured - What kind of stupidity is that !?!?!? 3 - Stanton - Can't fault him for making the trade at the time but should have realized the mistake 2-3 years ago ... Cashman shouldve been making an all out effort to get rid of Stanton including eating half of his contract (I dont want to hear about the No Trade BS - Players are traded all of the time despite no Trade Clauses) Don't forget the Donaldson trade. What a stinker that was. Donaldson was a throw in money dump! Had to take him! |
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Post by kaybli on Jan 4, 2024 20:23:18 GMT -5
Don't forget the Donaldson trade. What a stinker that was. Donaldson was a throw in money dump! Had to take him! For the irreplaceable IKF.
No hate to IKF. But he was not worth taking Donaldson's contract.
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but I'm new here! Lots of fans blame Cashman, but I always gave him a pass because of Hal with the tight money cap! But lately, I'm not so sure! When we had that mini rebuild and could of had a murders row of Bird, Judge, Stanton and our new Babe Ruth Sanchez, things looked bright like in the 90's. Andular, Fraiser and Torres! Cashman looked like a genus! Then with injuries it crumbled like a house of cards! 
