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Post by bigjeep on Jan 7, 2024 10:33:00 GMT -5
and screaming -------------------------------------- The reason bills don’t arrive scented with perfume is because they’re bills. You could soak them in Aunt Ida’s Sweet Syrup and they’d still stink. Nothing nice about them beyond, perhaps, the word “please,” as in “please remit.” And that’s why Thursday’s lengthy dual-network announcement that YES and MSG will partner in all-their-local-sports streaming ventures did not include the single most important information for consumers: How much more will this deal cost us? How much more to remain a fan of the Yankees, Rangers, Islanders, Devils, Knicks, Nets and Liberty? Must we all now dig deeper to buy games rather than continue living without streaming purchases, as many of us holdouts and priority-aware have chosen to do the last few years? Or is this just the latest test to see how much more we can suffer or deeper we can reach as per the best-laid plans of take-’em-for-granted Roger Goodell and Rob Manfred? Does this have anything to do with Jimmy Dolan’s long-held desire to sell MSG Network? Put it this way: If this new alliance between formally hostile and hateful rivals were a bargain, one that would cost us nothing or just a few cents more, that info would have been heralded at the top of the announcement. Instead, all consumer cost considerations were entirely omitted. Though we credit the newlyweds for their public vows of devotion, what’s in it for us, the purchasing public? MSG Networks CEO Andrea Greenberg: “This joint venture with YES will combine the streaming expertise of two of the largest regional sports networks in the country. … “We seek to marry our collective insight, expertise and best-in-class technology not only to explore enhancements to our own products, but also to offer other networks, teams and sports properties an efficient way to launch a state-of-the-art streaming service. “We are excited to partner with YES to create solutions for third-party content providers looking for a seamless way to reach new audiences.” Fine. We’re thrilled for both. But what’s in it for us — those whom both networks depend on for blood, oxygen and dough? Most of us have never considered changes we didn’t need. We never before had a problem trying to watch Knicks games on MSG or watching the Yanks on YES, at least until lately when the Yanks and MLB began to sell a minimum of 20 games to streaming services. But why such a confederation of networks if not to pad their takes by targeting even more of our money? Is it to impress us by “seamless” technological achievements that mean little-to-nothing to sports fans? As everyone at the top of YES and MSG would agree, always follow the money. It never fails to land on the answer. nypost.com/2024/01/06/sports/fans-paying-for-msg-yes-partnership-will-be-screaming/
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Post by bigjeep on Jan 7, 2024 10:36:13 GMT -5
They have a better way to make the "fan" pay for runaway FA salaries!
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Post by kaybli on Jan 7, 2024 11:19:05 GMT -5
From what I hear both the YES app and MSG app were both just horrible. They better figure out how to build a better app with them combining together. The merger is a bad idea anyway. Why should someone pay more if they just want the Yankees games but have no interest in what MSG offers? Its difficult enough to watch a baseball game with all the different streaming services you need for all the different networks.
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Post by bigjeep on Jan 7, 2024 11:31:21 GMT -5
From what I hear both the YES app and MSG app were both just horrible. They better figure out how to build a better app with them combining together. The merger is a bad idea anyway. Why should someone pay more if they just want the Yankees games but have no interest in what MSG offers? Its difficult enough to watch a baseball game with all the different streaming services you need for all the different networks. They are already farming out games to Amazon and a few others! When teams start paying 2 player contracts totaling 1 billion dollars, someone is going to pay and its going to be the fans. Streaming has shown them a new way to make us pay! My guess is major league sports is going to collapse under its own weight! If you are going to combine all these teams, the cost could go over 100+ dollars a month. Add that to your regular cable bill!
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Post by inger on Jan 7, 2024 13:06:58 GMT -5
From what I hear both the YES app and MSG app were both just horrible. They better figure out how to build a better app with them combining together. The merger is a bad idea anyway. Why should someone pay more if they just want the Yankees games but have no interest in what MSG offers? Its difficult enough to watch a baseball game with all the different streaming services you need for all the different networks. They are already farming out games to Amazon and a few others! When teams start paying 2 player contracts totaling 1 billion dollars, someone is going to pay and its going to be the fans. Streaming has shown them a new way to make us pay! My guess is major league sports is going to collapse under its own weight! If you are going to combine all these teams, the cost could go over 100+ dollars a month. Add that to your regular cable bill! Twenty years ago I began to think salaries of players were getting stupid, but the haven’t stopped escalating. Yep. At some point when mother and dad review the bills and it becomes food or baseball… figure it out…
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Post by bigjeep on Jan 7, 2024 13:19:35 GMT -5
They are already farming out games to Amazon and a few others! When teams start paying 2 player contracts totaling 1 billion dollars, someone is going to pay and its going to be the fans. Streaming has shown them a new way to make us pay! My guess is major league sports is going to collapse under its own weight! If you are going to combine all these teams, the cost could go over 100+ dollars a month. Add that to your regular cable bill! Twenty years ago I began to think salaries of players were getting stupid, but the haven’t stopped escalating. Yep. At some point when mother and dad review the bills and it becomes food or baseball… figure it out… It's really sad! I have older die hard Yankee fans like me that are already refusing to pay! Amazon is paying big prices for the NFL and MLB games and now I got a notice that ads will be in there movies starting 1/29! So I'm taking out my scissors soon and CUTTING them out! My one friend always called the players slaves before FA! He is not a very happy camper now!
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Post by chiyankee on Jan 7, 2024 13:31:04 GMT -5
Twenty years ago I began to think salaries of players were getting stupid, but the haven’t stopped escalating. Yep. At some point when mother and dad review the bills and it becomes food or baseball… figure it out… It's really sad! I have older die hard Yankee fans like me that are already refusing to pay! Amazon is paying big prices for the NFL and MLB games and now I got a notice that ads will be in there movies starting 1/29! So I'm taking out my scissors soon and CUTTING them out! My one friend always called the players slaves before FA! He is not a very happy camper now! I don't pay for Amazon Prime and I'm not paying for any additional streaming services, since I'm already paying enough. There's a NFL playoff game next that's exclusively on NBC's streaming service, Peacock. Are you kidding me? How money people pay for Peacock? It's all getting out of hand.
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Post by bigjeep on Jan 7, 2024 14:01:56 GMT -5
It's really sad! I have older die hard Yankee fans like me that are already refusing to pay! Amazon is paying big prices for the NFL and MLB games and now I got a notice that ads will be in there movies starting 1/29! So I'm taking out my scissors soon and CUTTING them out! My one friend always called the players slaves before FA! He is not a very happy camper now! I don't pay for Amazon Prime and I'm not paying for any additional streaming services, since I'm already paying enough. There's a NFL playoff game next that's exclusively on NBC's streaming service, Peacock. Are you kidding me? How money people pay for Peacock? It's all getting out of hand. Yup, someone has to pay these crazy player salaries and with streaming, its us! Love Judge, but is he worth 40 million a year? No, but we will pay it now with streaming!
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Post by chiyankee on Jan 7, 2024 14:41:05 GMT -5
It's really sad! I have older die hard Yankee fans like me that are already refusing to pay! Amazon is paying big prices for the NFL and MLB games and now I got a notice that ads will be in there movies starting 1/29! So I'm taking out my scissors soon and CUTTING them out! My one friend always called the players slaves before FA! He is not a very happy camper now! I don't pay for Amazon Prime and I'm not paying for any additional streaming services, since I'm already paying enough. There's a NFL playoff game next that's exclusively on NBC's streaming service, Peacock. Are you kidding me? How money people pay for Peacock? It's all getting out of hand. Teams make more than enough revenue with the national TV and local deals. The streaming stuff is just over the top greed.
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Post by bigjeep on Jan 7, 2024 15:23:12 GMT -5
I don't pay for Amazon Prime and I'm not paying for any additional streaming services, since I'm already paying enough. There's a NFL playoff game next that's exclusively on NBC's streaming service, Peacock. Are you kidding me? How money people pay for Peacock? It's all getting out of hand. Teams make more than enough revenue with the national TV and local deals. The streaming stuff is just over the top greed. Yup! Screw the fan! Found out that NBC is paying the NFL 110 million dollars for that playoff game! Its just the beginning! So you can pay the NFL $300+ for the ticket, but you won't see that game! When I get rid of Amazon prime I will lose 20 Yankee games and Thursday night football! But I am at the point where I will say, F--K them, I'm done!
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Post by nw on Jan 7, 2024 15:36:07 GMT -5
I've been waiting for the right streaming deal to come along because I literally use my DirecTV Stream for nothing other than Yankees and Rangers games. Anything else that I watch, I can watch for free elsewhere. If YES and MSG can make a decent product, I'd be willing to ditch DTV and get the sports app.
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Post by chiyankee on Jan 7, 2024 15:45:19 GMT -5
Teams make more than enough revenue with the national TV and local deals. The streaming stuff is just over the top greed. Yup! Screw the fan! Found out that NBC is paying the NFL 110 million dollars for that playoff game! Its just the beginning! So you can pay the NFL $300+ for the ticket, but you won't see that game! When I get rid of Amazon prime I will lose 20 Yankee games and Thursday night football! But I am at the point where I will say, F--K them, I'm done! NBC does have another playoff game that same day. If they showed both games on their normal network, they would get monster ratings but they think a lot of people are going to buy their streaming service.
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Post by inger on Jan 7, 2024 16:20:27 GMT -5
At least with my ROKU I get the mlb.com extra innings for whatever price they’ll charge this year ($149 last year) and it does include the Amazon games. If you want to ditch cable or Direct TV/DISH nonsense a Roku is a great option.
But the best Roku you can find ($129?) and pay zero per month. Then pay for upgrades per channel package. We pay $5.23 per month for basic Roku and Discovery +. I buy the mlb.com extra innings and that’s it.
I don’t miss all the movie channels. I only watch the movies that are free…
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Post by azbob643 on Jan 7, 2024 16:42:23 GMT -5
At least with my ROKU I get the mlb.com extra innings for whatever price they’ll charge this year ($149 last year) and it does include the Amazon games. If you want to ditch cable or Direct TV/DISH nonsense a Roku is a great option. But the best Roku you can find ($129?) and pay zero per month. Then pay for upgrades per channel package. We pay $5.23 per month for basic Roku and Discovery +. I buy the mlb.com extra innings and that’s it. I don’t miss all the movie channels. I only watch the movies that are free… I used to do mlb.com Extra Innings but as I recall there was no control over which team's feed you got. Is that still the case, or am I "misremembering"?
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Post by inger on Jan 7, 2024 16:47:01 GMT -5
At least with my ROKU I get the mlb.com extra innings for whatever price they’ll charge this year ($149 last year) and it does include the Amazon games. If you want to ditch cable or Direct TV/DISH nonsense a Roku is a great option. But the best Roku you can find ($129?) and pay zero per month. Then pay for upgrades per channel package. We pay $5.23 per month for basic Roku and Discovery +. I buy the mlb.com extra innings and that’s it. I don’t miss all the movie channels. I only watch the movies that are free… I used to do mlb.com Extra Innings but as I recall there was no control over which team's feed you got. Is that still the case, or am I "misremembering"? It was weird last year. For the first half or so of the season I almost never got the Yankees feed. The second half I always got the Yankees feed. I’m thinking it might have had to do with YES wanting paid to share it. There is “choice” option but there are times that you get what you get, that is true…
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