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Post by themartian on Feb 2, 2024 13:33:36 GMT -5
The post season is a crap shoot. Who just signed Yamamoto and Ohtani? Who traded the Dodgers Betts because he was too expensive? Are the Red Sox a "small market" team? Really? Who was one of the most active teams a year ago in the off season? Who went for it during the season last year and traded for monty ? The crap shoot theory is a bunch of baloney . Explain the D-Backs then. No one saw them coming, and really not the Rangers either: www.foxsports.com/stories/mlb/mlb-odds-2023-world-series-futures-lines-for-every-team |
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Post by posadafan24 on Feb 2, 2024 13:36:44 GMT -5
[b What are you talking about ? The rangers basically bought their way to the ws . And the dbacks were a good team all year . Its not like the dbacks came out of nowhere in the second half and got hot in the playoffs . |
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Post by themartian on Feb 2, 2024 13:42:15 GMT -5
[b What are you talking about ? The rangers basically bought their way to the ws . And the dbacks were a good team all year . Its not like the dbacks came out of nowhere in the second half and got hot in the playoffs . Yeah but no one really saw either team winning the WS in the preseason. The Rangers spent but that was after years of carrying a pretty low payroll. Their 2023 payroll was 9th in the majors, behind the small market teams like the Yankees and Dodgers. |
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Post by posadafan24 on Feb 2, 2024 13:45:00 GMT -5
[b What are you talking about ? The rangers basically bought their way to the ws . And the dbacks were a good team all year . Its not like the dbacks came out of nowhere in the second half and got hot in the playoffs . Yeah but no one really saw either team winning the WS in the preseason. The Rangers spent but that was after years of carrying a pretty low payroll. Their 2023 payroll was 9th in the majors, behind the small market teams like the Yankees and Dodgers. Noone saw the rangers winning the ws a year ago? After the off season they were favored to get there . The only team more favored than them in the AL were the defending world champs at the time . I mean all that wax talked about in regards to the rangers a year ago is how they went all in for a title . |
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Post by themartian on Feb 2, 2024 14:11:28 GMT -5
Yeah but no one really saw either team winning the WS in the preseason. The Rangers spent but that was after years of carrying a pretty low payroll. Their 2023 payroll was 9th in the majors, behind the small market teams like the Yankees and Dodgers. Noone saw the rangers winning the ws a year ago? After the off season they were favored to get there . The only team more favored than them in the AL were the defending world champs at the time . I mean all that wax talked about in regards to the rangers a year ago is how they went all in for a title . I quoted their odds from the end of Feb 2023. Can you link some other oddsmakers that rated them as the favorites? Foxsports had them in the middle of the pack with 46:1 odds. |
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Post by posadafan24 on Feb 2, 2024 14:33:03 GMT -5
Noone saw the rangers winning the ws a year ago? After the off season they were favored to get there . The only team more favored than them in the AL were the defending world champs at the time . I mean all that wax talked about in regards to the rangers a year ago is how they went all in for a title . I quoted their odds from the end of Feb 2023. Can you link some other oddsmakers that rated them as the favorites? Foxsports had them in the middle of the pack with 46:1 odds. If the rangers werent so favored then why was it such a big deal that they almost blew their playoff spot ? And which team in the AL besides the astros were given better odds to win the ws a year ago? |
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Post by themartian on Feb 2, 2024 14:45:11 GMT -5
I quoted their odds from the end of Feb 2023. Can you link some other oddsmakers that rated them as the favorites? Foxsports had them in the middle of the pack with 46:1 odds. If the rangers werent so favored then why was it such a big deal that they almost blew their playoff spot ? And which team in the AL besides the astros were given better odds to win the ws a year ago? It's in the link I posted, but a bunch of teams had better odds, including the Yankees. Remember, prior to 2023 the Rangers had endured a bunch of terrible seasons, including 2022 when they added both Semien and Seager:  |
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Post by posadafan24 on Feb 2, 2024 14:47:51 GMT -5
If the rangers werent so favored then why was it such a big deal that they almost blew their playoff spot ? And which team in the AL besides the astros were given better odds to win the ws a year ago? It's in the link I posted, but a bunch of teams had better odds, including the Yankees. Remember, prior to 2023 the Rangers had endured a bunch of terrible seasons, including 2022 when they added both Semien and Seager: Well i would think people would have realized by now that preseason odds mean nothing . Especially to yankees fans lol . But by august of last year the only AL team with better odds of winning the ws than the rangers were the astros . Now why was that? |
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Post by bomberhojoe on Feb 2, 2024 14:58:57 GMT -5
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Post by themartian on Feb 2, 2024 15:06:02 GMT -5
It's in the link I posted, but a bunch of teams had better odds, including the Yankees. Remember, prior to 2023 the Rangers had endured a bunch of terrible seasons, including 2022 when they added both Semien and Seager: Well i would think people would have realized by now that preseason odds mean nothing . Especially to yankees fans lol . But by august of last year the only AL team with better odds of winning the ws than the rangers were the astros . Now why was that? They had a great season, other than DeGrom they had healthy players too. It's not like you can just buy the WS though because if that was the case, the Mets would have run away with it. They beat the odds. It happens sometimes. They didn't buy Evan Carter or Adolis Garcia or Johan Heim or Josh Jung or a bunch of their solid core players. Without those guys coming through they probably would have been on the outside looking in again. Duran, Lowe, Taveres, Garver - a lot of players contributed. Seager and Semien were big pluses, but the Rangers missed the playoffs the season before with them on the team. |
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Post by posadafan24 on Feb 2, 2024 15:22:43 GMT -5
Well i would think people would have realized by now that preseason odds mean nothing . Especially to yankees fans lol . But by august of last year the only AL team with better odds of winning the ws than the rangers were the astros . Now why was that? They had a great season, other than DeGrom they had healthy players too. It's not like you can just buy the WS though because if that was the case, the Mets would have run away with it. They beat the odds. It happens sometimes. They didn't buy Evan Carter or Adolis Garcia or Johan Heim or Josh Jung or a bunch of their solid core players. Without those guys coming through they probably would have been on the outside looking in again. Duran, Lowe, Taveres, Garver - a lot of players contributed. Seager and Semien were big pluses, but the Rangers missed the playoffs the season before with them on the team. Yeah and then they went out and signed more free agents and traded for more players at the deadline . They went all in at the deadline . And by august were heavy favorites to win the ws |
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Post by themartian on Feb 2, 2024 15:44:02 GMT -5
They had a great season, other than DeGrom they had healthy players too. It's not like you can just buy the WS though because if that was the case, the Mets would have run away with it. They beat the odds. It happens sometimes. They didn't buy Evan Carter or Adolis Garcia or Johan Heim or Josh Jung or a bunch of their solid core players. Without those guys coming through they probably would have been on the outside looking in again. Duran, Lowe, Taveres, Garver - a lot of players contributed. Seager and Semien were big pluses, but the Rangers missed the playoffs the season before with them on the team. Yeah and then they went out and signed more free agents and traded for more players at the deadline . They went all in at the deadline . And by august were heavy favorites to win the ws Which free agents did they sign in August? They traded for Monty and Scherzer. Monty was a rental contract wise. Most of Scherzer's $$ is being paid by the Mets and he was a non-factor for them in the playoffs and is a health question mark for 2024. Compared to what the Mets did in the preseason, they were tame. Tame compared to what the Dodgers just did with Ohtani and Yamamoto as well. They bolstered a team that looked good near the trade deadline. Happens every year. |
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Post by ypaterson on Feb 2, 2024 15:55:02 GMT -5
Mickey Rivers starred at Miami Dade along with Paterson native Glenn Borgmann. Borgmann went on to a very productive major league career spent mostly with the Twins. Mickey had bigger things ahead of him. |
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Post by Max on Feb 2, 2024 16:00:28 GMT -5
I'm tired of the Yanks using that as an excuse...making fans pay for their blunders. Me too . Didnt stop the mets
Yes it did. They paid about 100 million in L-Tax and they cleared payroll in a hurry. Take a look at their payroll this season compared to last season.
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Post by Max on Feb 2, 2024 16:03:03 GMT -5
"The Dodgers let Seager walk. But they have spent the money elsewhere and they like Gavin Lux." Who is the ’23 World Series MVP? Which team is the ’23 World Series Champion? Which team was swept out of the playoffs by an 84 win team? And which team went nuts this off season?
They were able to do that because of the deferred contract that Ohtani signed. |
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