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Post by themartian on Feb 2, 2024 21:01:22 GMT -5
Gleyber (New York) 85.8 MPH
Run along now...GianDonEtc. Again Bob, no need to get personal or upset. It's a shame you can't stick to baseball without the mud flinging. |
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Post by azbob643 on Feb 2, 2024 21:03:44 GMT -5
Gleyber (New York) 85.8 MPH
Run along now...GianDonEtc. Again Bob, no need to get personal or upset. It's a shame you can't stick to baseball without the mud flinging.
Are you familiar with the phrase “hoist with his own petard”? Probably not... |
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Post by themartian on Feb 2, 2024 21:14:15 GMT -5
Again Bob, no need to get personal or upset. It's a shame you can't stick to baseball without the mud flinging.
Are you familiar with the phrase “hoist with his own petard”? Probably not... Again Bob, is Gleyber a SS? Has he been there at all since 2021? Why did he abandon that position? Do players stay the same forever in their careers? Have you ever heard of a pitcher who loses their fastball? It happens. I've answered your questions/points (this one in particular 3 times now), why don't you go back now and answer mine. |
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Post by azbob643 on Feb 2, 2024 21:20:00 GMT -5
Gleyber (New York) 85.8 MPH
Are you familiar with the phrase “hoist with his own petard”? Probably not... Again Bob, is Gleyber a SS? Has he been there at all since 2021? Why did he abandon that position? Do players stay the same forever in their careers? Have you ever heard of a pitcher who loses their fastball? It happens. I've answered your questions/points (this one in particular 3 times now), why don't you go back now and answer mine. Here ya go stat geek. Nothing personal...numbers don't lie...
Gleyber's arm strength - 85.8 MPHArm strength last 3 Yankee 3BsDJ LeMahieu - 79.7 MPH Gio Urshela - 80.5 MPH Josh Donaldson - 82.1 MPH Arm strength top 5 3BsChapman (Toronto) – 89.2 MPH Garcia (Kansas City) – 87.8 MPH Devers (Boston) – 84.8 MPH Escobar (LA Angels) – 84.8 MPH Paredes (Tampa) – 84.6 MPH |
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Post by inger on Feb 2, 2024 21:49:52 GMT -5
Well at last we have this arm strength thing settled to the point that I have no idea what to think…
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Post by posadafan24 on Feb 2, 2024 22:36:59 GMT -5
Well at last we have this arm strength thing settled to the point that I have no idea what to think… Me too lol |
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Post by chiyankee on Feb 2, 2024 22:55:42 GMT -5
Well at last we have this arm strength thing settled to the point that I have no idea what to think… He's staying at second base. lol |
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Post by posadafan24 on Feb 2, 2024 23:06:47 GMT -5
Well at last we have this arm strength thing settled to the point that I have no idea what to think… He's staying at second base. lol He better stay at second . Gary sanchez proved you need more than just a strong arm to be adequate at your position in the field |
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Post by themartian on Feb 3, 2024 3:11:21 GMT -5
Again Bob, is Gleyber a SS? Has he been there at all since 2021? Why did he abandon that position? Do players stay the same forever in their careers? Have you ever heard of a pitcher who loses their fastball? It happens. I've answered your questions/points (this one in particular 3 times now), why don't you go back now and answer mine. Here ya go stat geek. Nothing personal...numbers don't lie...
Gleyber's arm strength - 85.8 MPHArm strength last 3 Yankee 3BsDJ LeMahieu - 79.7 MPH Gio Urshela - 80.5 MPH Josh Donaldson - 82.1 MPH Arm strength top 5 3BsChapman (Toronto) – 89.2 MPH Garcia (Kansas City) – 87.8 MPH Devers (Boston) – 84.8 MPH Escobar (LA Angels) – 84.8 MPH Paredes (Tampa) – 84.6 MPH Repeating yourself is childish. "Why are those other 2b here in the present able to throw so much harder? Why does Kim average 90 MPH? Why did Gunnar Henderson average 91.4? Why are so many 2b throwing so much harder than the 75 MPH Gleyber averaged at the same position? It's the same top 5% of their throws across the board, the measurement comes from the same situations." Why are you afraid to answer Bob? Why do you keep posting the same numbers and scouting reports from years ago? |
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Post by azbob643 on Feb 3, 2024 9:08:57 GMT -5
Here ya go stat geek. Nothing personal...numbers don't lie...
Gleyber's arm strength - 85.8 MPHArm strength last 3 Yankee 3BsDJ LeMahieu - 79.7 MPH Gio Urshela - 80.5 MPH Josh Donaldson - 82.1 MPH Arm strength top 5 3BsChapman (Toronto) – 89.2 MPH Garcia (Kansas City) – 87.8 MPH Devers (Boston) – 84.8 MPH Escobar (LA Angels) – 84.8 MPH Paredes (Tampa) – 84.6 MPH Repeating yourself is childish. "Why are those other 2b here in the present able to throw so much harder? Why does Kim average 90 MPH? Why did Gunnar Henderson average 91.4? Why are so many 2b throwing so much harder than the 75 MPH Gleyber averaged at the same position? It's the same top 5% of their throws across the board, the measurement comes from the same situations." Why are you afraid to answer Bob? Why do you keep posting the same numbers and scouting reports from years ago? The “numbers” posted of the last 3 Yankee 3Bs and the top 5 AL 3Bs are not from “years ago”, but from last season…’23. As had originally been stated, Gleyber’s 85.8 MPH is from ’21, the last year he played SS. Rating his throws from SS, when a strong throw is often needed, is much more comparable to 3B than throws from 2B, which you choose to use for obvious reasons. What “others” have averaged from the same position is irrelevant. Now…I’ve answered your questions, but I have no doubt you’ll continue to beat this beyond death and treat the members of this board to the same type of classic “GianDonEtc” never-ending round-n-round argument you subjected the YES board members to for years. So…in advance, I’ll give you the pat on the head you so desperately need. You’re a good boy “GianDonEtc”. A good, good boy.  |
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Post by Max on Feb 3, 2024 10:22:52 GMT -5
Gleyber's arm strength was doubtful to my eye test, but then Inger shared some ratings on here a few weeks ago purporting otherwise. You may be correct that they were from Gleyber's earlier years in the minor leagues. That 75.9 MPH is not what you want at third. I also saw that DJ LeMahieu was at 84.3, not bad at this point in his career. 85.8 MPH Arm strength last 3 Yankee 3Bs...DJ LeMahieu - 79.7 MPH Gio Urshela - 80.5 MPH Josh Donaldson - 82.1 MPH
In my opinion, the only fair way to judge Torres' arm for 3B would be from when he played on the left-side of the infield. I also remember an article from 2022 after Torres was moved back to 2B where Boone spoke about Torres still having the arm strength to play SS. I never heard of a player having the arm to play SS but not 3B.
Torres didn't have arm surgery and unlike a pitcher an infielder doesn't put much stress on his arm. It doesn't matter anyway, since for the past 5 plus seasons Jeimer Candelario showed that a player doesn't have to have an above average arm to play 3B. Munson did the same thing when it came to Catching.
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Post by Max on Feb 3, 2024 10:31:48 GMT -5
I didn't miss the point the first time, let alone again. Ohtani's contract played a role in the Dodgers being able to make so many expensive moves. Do you deny that? As for who gives a flip? The Dodgers do, since they were the ones to offer Ohtani that kind of contract. Yeah you missed the point . The point is the dodgers went nuts this off season . Them deferring one contract out of all the contracts they gave out this off season, doesnt change that. And the other point you went off track on was king . The convo was about how the yankees would have used king . Not how the padres will be using him
Actually no, I didn't miss the point. Perhaps you missed my reply and my question that I will ask again at the end of this post. I already said that since pitching is at a premium my reply applied to the Padres and Yankees in regards to King starting. I also acknowledged that the Dodgers made a lot more moves, what you called "went nuts".
Do you deny Ohtani's deferred contract helped the Dodgers with the L-Tax and allowed them to make a lot more moves?
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Post by Max on Feb 3, 2024 10:40:11 GMT -5
Well at last we have this arm strength thing settled to the point that I have no idea what to think… He's staying at second base. lol
Hi Chi, good morning. I meant to ask your opinion...Do you think that the WS are going to trade Cease before the season starts or maybe sometime during the 2024 season?
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Post by chiyankee on Feb 3, 2024 10:59:30 GMT -5
He's staying at second base. lol
Hi Chi, good morning. I meant to ask your opinion...Do you think that the WS are going to trade Cease before the season starts or maybe sometime during the 2024 season?
Good morning Max. I think they would trade Cease before the season starts only if someone comes close to meeting their extremely high demands. They won't short sell him like the Brewers just did with Burnes. Chicago needs to give their fans something to watch during the season. |
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Post by azbob643 on Feb 3, 2024 11:17:38 GMT -5
Hi Chi, good morning. I meant to ask your opinion...Do you think that the WS are going to trade Cease before the season starts or maybe sometime during the 2024 season?
Good morning Max. I think they would trade Cease before the season starts only if someone comes close to meeting their extremely high demands. They won't short sell him like the Brewers just did with Burnes. Chicago needs to give their fans something to watch during the season. ChiSox relative fans pretty much agree with that...that "they'll only do it for an overpay, so it might not be for a few months". |
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