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Post by posadafan24 on Feb 3, 2024 16:42:55 GMT -5
In my opinion, it's either a reading comprehension issue or purposely twisting things around in order to argue and or talk spit. I'm not speaking about anyone in particular, but if anyone thinks the shoe fits them, they can wear it. I won't lose sleep over it. If Torres' trade value diminished it's because he's in his walk year. Looks like the best time to trade him would have been for Lopez, but from what I read the Yankees and the Marlins couldn't agree to a trade. It takes 2 GM to tango. Torres has proven that he can play under the pressure it takes to play for the Yankees. The Pinstripes aren't too heavy for Torres. As we know, that's not the case for everyone that has played for the Yankees. I'll name names..."themartian" (GianDonEtc") and "posadafan24" (?unknown at this time?). As we know from previous experience, "GianDonEtc" can and will go on for months, even years, doing exactly that. Seems "posadafan24" has the same proclivity. IMO, there's never been a good time to trade Gleyber, and now is definitely not the right time. Not because he's in his walk year, but because you don't trade a 27 yo proven offensive force, especially from a team as weak hitting as the Yanks have been. Lots of talk re pitching being suspect. That being the case, they're gonna need all the offensive firepower they can get. You do when his glove sucks and you can get a guy like castillo or that marlins pitcher in return. The deal with the marlins fell through because cashman wanted too much for torres . This was in 22 when he was having a down year with the bat |
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Post by azbob643 on Feb 3, 2024 16:47:12 GMT -5
I'll name names..."themartian" (GianDonEtc") and "posadafan24" (?unknown at this time?). As we know from previous experience, "GianDonEtc" can and will go on for months, even years, doing exactly that. Seems "posadafan24" has the same proclivity. IMO, there's never been a good time to trade Gleyber, and now is definitely not the right time. Not because he's in his walk year, but because you don't trade a 27 yo proven offensive force, especially from a team as weak hitting as the Yanks have been. Lots of talk re pitching being suspect. That being the case, they're gonna need all the offensive firepower they can get. You do when his glove sucks and you can get a guy like castillo or that marlins pitcher in return. The deal with the marlins fell through because cashman wanted too much for torres . This was in 22 when he was having a down year with the bat The supposed "deal" with the Marlins is irrelevant. OK...you're GM for the day. What do you do...today...re Gleyber? |
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Post by posadafan24 on Feb 3, 2024 16:58:45 GMT -5
You do when his glove sucks and you can get a guy like castillo or that marlins pitcher in return. The deal with the marlins fell through because cashman wanted too much for torres . This was in 22 when he was having a down year with the bat The supposed "deal" with the Marlins is irrelevant. OK...you're GM for the day. What do you do...today...re Gleyber? I would still try to trade Gleyber if i was serious about re-signing soto . Cause its highly doubtful they sign both . I would have taken a lesson from cano’s last year with the yankees and this time i would try to get something in return for gleyber instead of possibly letting him go for nothing |
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Post by azbob643 on Feb 3, 2024 17:05:30 GMT -5
The supposed "deal" with the Marlins is irrelevant. OK...you're GM for the day. What do you do...today...re Gleyber? I would still try to trade Gleyber if i was serious about re-signing soto . Cause its highly doubtful they sign both . I would have taken a lesson from cano’s last year with the yankees and this time i would try to get something in return for gleyber instead of possibly letting him go for nothing So...Soto is the X factor for you. There's no way of knowing if they can sign him, so let's take him out of the equation. Since according to you, Gleyber "sucks", what do you suppose Yanks could get for him now? I mean, certainly other team's GMs know as much about him as you do...that he "sucks". But if you could trade him, who plays 2B? |
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Post by posadafan24 on Feb 3, 2024 17:20:51 GMT -5
I would still try to trade Gleyber if i was serious about re-signing soto . Cause its highly doubtful they sign both . I would have taken a lesson from cano’s last year with the yankees and this time i would try to get something in return for gleyber instead of possibly letting him go for nothing So...Soto is the X factor for you. There's no way of knowing if they can sign him, so let's take him out of the equation. Since according to you, Gleyber "sucks", what do you suppose Yanks could get for him now? I mean, certainly other team's GMs know as much about him as you do...that he "sucks". But if you could trade him, who plays 2B? They get something for him and a little something is better than nothing . Either way they will have to decide who they pursue in the off season . And so far there isnt much indication of them trying to resign either before the season ends . And who says they cant pursue torres in the off season if they trade him? |
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Post by azbob643 on Feb 3, 2024 17:25:02 GMT -5
So...Soto is the X factor for you. There's no way of knowing if they can sign him, so let's take him out of the equation. Since according to you, Gleyber "sucks", what do you suppose Yanks could get for him now? I mean, certainly other team's GMs know as much about him as you do...that he "sucks". But if you could trade him, who plays 2B? They get something for him and a little something is better than nothing . Either way they will have to decide who they pursue in the off season . And so far there isnt much indication of them trying to resign either before the season ends . And who says they cant pursue torres in the off season if they trade him? We're not talking about the offseason...we're talking about now. Now, just to be clear...you're suggesting Yanks would/could pursue him as a FA if he's traded to another team this year. Correct? |
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Post by posadafan24 on Feb 3, 2024 17:30:10 GMT -5
They get something for him and a little something is better than nothing . Either way they will have to decide who they pursue in the off season . And so far there isnt much indication of them trying to resign either before the season ends . And who says they cant pursue torres in the off season if they trade him? We're not talking about the offseason...we're talking about now. Now, just to be clear...you're suggesting Yanks would/could pursue him as a FA if he's traded to another team this year. Correct? I am saying that if they were to trade him they could still try and sign him in the off season . Right now there is no indication they are gonna try to re-sign torres or soto before the end of the season so again it only makes sense they try and trade him instead |
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Post by azbob643 on Feb 3, 2024 17:34:44 GMT -5
We're not talking about the offseason...we're talking about now. Now, just to be clear...you're suggesting Yanks would/could pursue him as a FA if he's traded to another team this year. Correct? I am saying that if they were to trade him they could still try and sign him in the off season . Why would they do that? Remember...he "sucks". But if they did sign him as a FA, where would he play? Here's a friendly piece of advice... When you find yourself in a hole...stop digging. |
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Post by posadafan24 on Feb 3, 2024 18:14:39 GMT -5
I am saying that if they were to trade him they could still try and sign him in the off season . Why would they do that? Remember...he "sucks". But if they did sign him as a FA, where would he play? Here's a friendly piece of advice... When you find yourself in a hole...stop digging. Here is a fact for you . Yankees have a log jam in the middle infield and outside of volpe , torres has the most trade value , bad glove and all . And is easiest to trade . And they are desperately trying to stay under the last tax bracket . So you trade from an area of strength to help an area in need and they need more pitching . Now is that to hard for you to understand? |
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Post by azbob643 on Feb 3, 2024 18:42:59 GMT -5
Why would they do that? Remember...he "sucks". But if they did sign him as a FA, where would he play? Here's a friendly piece of advice... When you find yourself in a hole...stop digging. Here is a fact for you . Yankees have a log jam in the middle infield and outside of volpe , torres has the most trade value , bad glove and all . And is easiest to trade . And they are desperately trying to stay under the last tax bracket . So you trade from an area of strength to help an area in need and they need more pitching . Now is that to hard for you to understand? What’s the “log jam” in the MIF? There’s Volpe, Gleyber and as it is today, Peraza who, as of today, will be the UTIF. I’ll ask again…if Gleyber is traded, who plays 2B, and who’s the UTIF? Are you gonna substitute a .191 BA / .539 OPS hitter (Peraza) for a .273 BA / .800 OPS / 25 HR hitter (Gleyber)? Are you gonna have a .211 BA / .574 OPS hitter (Cabrera) as your UTIF. Is that your plan? Seriously? To recap…you want to trade Gleyber for “a little something” which is “better than nothing”. Then, you’d be open to the Yanks pursuing Gleyber, who "sucks", as a FA…to play where? Have I got that right? As for money, you said it doesn’t matter to you. In fact, you said you’d be willing to sign Gleyber for 4 years @ $30M per. |
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Post by posadafan24 on Feb 3, 2024 18:57:22 GMT -5
Here is a fact for you . Yankees have a log jam in the middle infield and outside of volpe , torres has the most trade value , bad glove and all . And is easiest to trade . And they are desperately trying to stay under the last tax bracket . So you trade from an area of strength to help an area in need and they need more pitching . Now is that to hard for you to understand? What’s the “log jam” in the MIF? There’s Volpe, Gleyber and as it is today, Peraza who, as of today, will be the UTIF. I’ll ask again…if Gleyber is traded, who plays 2B, and who’s the UTIF? Are you gonna substitute a .191 BA / .539 OPS hitter (Peraza) for a .273 BA / .800 OPS / 25 HR hitter (Gleyber)? Are you gonna have a .211 BA / .574 OPS hitter (Cabrera) as your UTIF. Is that your plan? Seriously? To recap…you want to trade Gleyber for “a little something” which is “better than nothing”. Then, you’d be open to the Yanks pursuing Gleyber, who "sucks", as a FA…to play where? Have I got that right? As for money, you said it doesn’t matter to you. In fact, you said you’d be willing to sign Gleyber for 4 years @ $30M per. There is dj and cabrera and even vivas in AAA . What part of torres having more trade value than most of those guys do you not understand ? Geez you cannot be that dense man . And guess what? After losing ikf , cabrera is their utility inf |
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Post by azbob643 on Feb 3, 2024 19:02:21 GMT -5
What’s the “log jam” in the MIF? There’s Volpe, Gleyber and as it is today, Peraza who, as of today, will be the UTIF. I’ll ask again…if Gleyber is traded, who plays 2B, and who’s the UTIF? Are you gonna substitute a .191 BA / .539 OPS hitter (Peraza) for a .273 BA / .800 OPS / 25 HR hitter (Gleyber)? Are you gonna have a .211 BA / .574 OPS hitter (Cabrera) as your UTIF. Is that your plan? Seriously? To recap…you want to trade Gleyber for “a little something” which is “better than nothing”. Then, you’d be open to the Yanks pursuing Gleyber, who "sucks", as a FA…to play where? Have I got that right? As for money, you said it doesn’t matter to you. In fact, you said you’d be willing to sign Gleyber for 4 years @ $30M per. There is dj and cabrera and even spencer jones whom noone wants to trade . . Geez you cannot be that dense man . LOL...DJ's at 3B. Jones is a LH OF, and isn't on the roster. If you want to continue your efforts, I think you need to regroup and come back another time with a fresh box of ammo. |
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Post by posadafan24 on Feb 3, 2024 19:10:19 GMT -5
There is dj and cabrera and even spencer jones whom noone wants to trade . . Geez you cannot be that dense man . LOL...DJ's at 3B. Jones is a LH OF, and isn't on the roster. If you want to continue your efforts, I think you need to regroup and come back another time with a fresh box of ammo. You got cabrera , peraza and torres who are 2b/ss . Thats a log jam if i ever saw one . Cant expect to know what you have in prospects if you dont give them playing time |
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Post by azbob643 on Feb 3, 2024 19:12:22 GMT -5
LOL...DJ's at 3B. Jones is a LH OF, and isn't on the roster. If you want to continue your efforts, I think you need to regroup and come back another time with a fresh box of ammo. You got cabrera , peraza and torres who are 2b/ss . Thats a log jam if i ever saw one . Cant expect to know what you have in prospects if you dont give them playing time Yeah...that's quite a potent log jam. I’ll look forward to hearing more of your thoughts some other time, once you’ve gathered them. |
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Post by posadafan24 on Feb 3, 2024 19:15:15 GMT -5
You got cabrera , peraza and torres who are 2b/ss . Thats a log jam if i ever saw one . Cant expect to know what you have in prospects if you dont give them playing time Yeah...that's quite a potent log jam. I’ll look forward to hearing more of your thoughts some other time, once you’ve gathered them. Says the one who wont ttade torres all in hopes they sign him long term despite torres barely being an above avg 2b . |
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