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Post by inger on Feb 3, 2024 19:18:07 GMT -5
Would love to see the 6’ 6” , 225 pound Spencer Jones at 2B… 🤓
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Post by posadafan24 on Feb 3, 2024 19:46:45 GMT -5
I am curious to see their number 10 best prospect jorbit vivas who is another 2b and has an eta for this season . I mean they dont have a log jam in that part of the field so it should be easy to get him playing time too if they deem him ready for the majors this season
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Post by inger on Feb 3, 2024 21:38:12 GMT -5
I am curious to see their number 10 best prospect jorbit vivas who is another 2b and has an eta for this season . I mean they dont have a log jam in that part of the field so it should be easy to get him playing time too if they deem him ready for the majors this season The logjam comes a bit later when Roderick Arias is ready. He may move up quickly from what I’m reading. So signing Gleyber long term woukd have additional implications. Also from my readings it appears Jorbit Vivas is not very slick with the leather…
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Post by posadafan24 on Feb 3, 2024 21:49:09 GMT -5
I am curious to see their number 10 best prospect jorbit vivas who is another 2b and has an eta for this season . I mean they dont have a log jam in that part of the field so it should be easy to get him playing time too if they deem him ready for the majors this season The logjam comes a bit later when Roderick Arias is ready. He may move up quickly from what I’m reading. So signing Gleyber long term woukd have additional implications. Also from my readings it appears Jorbit Vivas is not very slick with the leather… Either way they have a log jam there , either this season with vivas or next season with arias if you are right about him
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Post by Max on Feb 4, 2024 11:57:07 GMT -5
In my opinion, it's either a reading comprehension issue or purposely twisting things around in order to argue and or talk spit. I'm not speaking about anyone in particular, but if anyone thinks the shoe fits them, they can wear it. I won't lose sleep over it. If Torres' trade value diminished it's because he's in his walk year. Looks like the best time to trade him would have been for Lopez, but from what I read the Yankees and the Marlins couldn't agree to a trade. It takes 2 GM to tango. Torres has proven that he can play under the pressure it takes to play for the Yankees. The Pinstripes aren't too heavy for Torres. As we know, that's not the case for everyone that has played for the Yankees. I'll name names..."themartian" (GianDonEtc") and "posadafan24" (?unknown at this time?). As we know from previous experience, "GianDonEtc" can and will go on for months, even years, doing exactly that. Seems "posadafan24" has the same proclivity. IMO, there's never been a good time to trade Gleyber, and now is definitely not the right time. Not because he's in his walk year, but because you don't trade a 27 yo proven offensive force, especially from a team as weak hitting as the Yanks have been. Lots of talk re pitching being suspect. That being the case, they're gonna need all the offensive firepower they can get. What I meant to say was if the Yankees were ever going to trade Torres, that was the time to do it. As I said recently, if the Yankees had player at Triple A that put up Torres stats, I'm pretty sure that many Yankee fans would want the Yankees to promote that player.
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Post by posadafan24 on Feb 4, 2024 14:13:57 GMT -5
I'll name names..."themartian" (GianDonEtc") and "posadafan24" (?unknown at this time?). As we know from previous experience, "GianDonEtc" can and will go on for months, even years, doing exactly that. Seems "posadafan24" has the same proclivity. IMO, there's never been a good time to trade Gleyber, and now is definitely not the right time. Not because he's in his walk year, but because you don't trade a 27 yo proven offensive force, especially from a team as weak hitting as the Yanks have been. Lots of talk re pitching being suspect. That being the case, they're gonna need all the offensive firepower they can get. What I meant to say was if the Yankees were ever going to trade Torres, that was the time to do it. As I said recently, if the Yankees had player at Triple A that put up Torres stats, I'm pretty sure that many Yankee fans would want the Yankees to promote that player. So tell me what do u think they shpuld do woth , vivas , and arias when both are mlb ready within the next two years after re signing torres?
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Post by bumper on Feb 4, 2024 15:01:07 GMT -5
In my opinion, it's either a reading comprehension issue or purposely twisting things around in order to argue and or talk spit. I'm not speaking about anyone in particular, but if anyone thinks the shoe fits them, they can wear it. I won't lose sleep over it. If Torres' trade value diminished it's because he's in his walk year. Looks like the best time to trade him would have been for Lopez, but from what I read the Yankees and the Marlins couldn't agree to a trade. It takes 2 GM to tango. Torres has proven that he can play under the pressure it takes to play for the Yankees. The Pinstripes aren't too heavy for Torres. As we know, that's not the case for everyone that has played for the Yankees. I'll name names..."themartian" (GianDonEtc") and "posadafan24" (?unknown at this time?). As we know from previous experience, "GianDonEtc" can and will go on for months, even years, doing exactly that. Seems "posadafan24" has the same proclivity. IMO, there's never been a good time to trade Gleyber, and now is definitely not the right time. Not because he's in his walk year, but because you don't trade a 27 yo proven offensive force, especially from a team as weak hitting as the Yanks have been. Lots of talk re pitching being suspect. That being the case, they're gonna need all the offensive firepower they can get. the trade gleyber thing has been beaten to death over at the yes forum. any trade we make for an established player is gonna be a parallel move. at best you're gonna get back a player more than likely in his walk year and that will leave a gaping hole at 2B. maybe fix one hole and create another. and if the answer is peraza (either at 2B or SS), then you're crazy because there isn't a GM who at this moment would even consider making peraza the full-time starter at either position. as a backup, he can earn (or not) his stripes.
this team needs offense. brainfarts and all, gleyber is that offense (top 5 at 2B). and if you trade him for prospects, then you haven't been paying attention. we didn't give up all that pitching for soto, not to be in it to win this season. it's win now or bust because we don't know where soto is gonna be next season. and we're not winning w peraza.
as far as this "glut" of IF'ers goes, seriously gleyber, peraza and cabrera is a glut?? on what planet. laughable.
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Post by posadafan24 on Feb 4, 2024 15:04:39 GMT -5
I'll name names..."themartian" (GianDonEtc") and "posadafan24" (?unknown at this time?). As we know from previous experience, "GianDonEtc" can and will go on for months, even years, doing exactly that. Seems "posadafan24" has the same proclivity. IMO, there's never been a good time to trade Gleyber, and now is definitely not the right time. Not because he's in his walk year, but because you don't trade a 27 yo proven offensive force, especially from a team as weak hitting as the Yanks have been. Lots of talk re pitching being suspect. That being the case, they're gonna need all the offensive firepower they can get. the trade gleyber thing has been beaten to death over at the yes forum. any trade we make for an established player is gonna be a parallel move. at best you're gonna get back a player more than likely in his walk year and that will leave a gaping hole at 2B. maybe fix one hole and create another. and if the answer is peraza (either at 2B or SS), then you're crazy because there isn't a GM who at this moment would even consider making peraza the full-time starter at either position. as a backup, he can earn (or not) his stripes.
this team needs offense. brainfarts and all, gleyber is that offense (top 5 at 2B). and if you trade him for prospects, then you haven't been paying attention. we didn't give up all that pitching for soto, not to be in it to win this season. it's win now or bust because we don't know where soto is gonna be next season. and we're not winning w peraza.
as far as this "glut" of IF'ers goes, seriously gleyber, peraza and cabrera is a glut?? on what planet. laughable. And yet you really think adding soto makes them a ws contender?’ It takes more than 2 guys to contend for a title .
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Post by bumper on Feb 4, 2024 15:06:23 GMT -5
back on the lead-off topic - based purely on stats you have to take verdugo over dj against RH'ers. not even close. verdugo had a .793 OPS against RH'ers while dj had a .707. not sure how anyone could come to any other conclusion.
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Post by Max on Feb 4, 2024 15:07:00 GMT -5
What I meant to say was if the Yankees were ever going to trade Torres, that was the time to do it. As I said recently, if the Yankees had player at Triple A that put up Torres stats, I'm pretty sure that many Yankee fans would want the Yankees to promote that player. So tell me what do u think they shpuld do woth , vivas , and arias when both are mlb ready within the next two years after re signing torres? Wait a second, what happened? Some of the players in the Yankees bullpen are question marks according to you, but somehow Vivas and Arias aren't? Who says for sure that they will be MLB ready within 2 years? You seem to be posting in circles. I read that you said the Yankees can sign Torres after they trade him. I also read that said you would sign Torres to a 4 year contact at 30 million per season. Yet, I also read that you said Torres' glove sucks and there's a log jam at 2B. Which is it? By the way, I like Torres and even I wouldn't want the Yankees to pay him 30 million per season. What the Yankees should do if Vivas and Arias are MLB ready within the next 2 years after re-signing Torres is easy. But, people that don't answer my questions shouldn't expect me to answer their questions. I will post what I think about your question, just as soon as you answer the question I asked you... Which was... Do you deny that Ohtani's deferred contract that helped the Dodgers with the L-Tax played a role that allowed the Dodgers to make so many more moves?
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Post by posadafan24 on Feb 4, 2024 15:12:31 GMT -5
So tell me what do u think they shpuld do woth , vivas , and arias when both are mlb ready within the next two years after re signing torres? Wait a second, what happened? Some of the players in the Yankees bullpen are question marks according to you, but somehow Vivas and Arias aren't? Who says for sure that they will be MLB ready within 2 years? You seem to be posting in circles. I read that you said the Yankees can sign Torres after they trade him. I also read that said you would sign Torres to a 4 year contact at 30 million per season. Yet, I also read that you said Torres' glove sucks and there's a log jam at 2B. Which is it? By the way, I like Torres and even I wouldn't want the Yankees to pay him 30 million per season. What the Yankees should do if Vivas and Arias are MLB ready within the next 2 years after re-signing Torres is easy. But, people that don't answer my questions shouldn't expect me to answer their questions. I will post what I think about your question, just as soon as you answer the question I asked you... Which was... Do you deny that Ohtani's deferred contract that helped the Dodgers with the L-Tax played a role that allowed the Dodgers to make so many more moves? What in the hell does the bullpen have to do with the upcoming log jam in the infield as a result of keeping everyone including torres? As for the dodgers question , i already answered it when i said it didnt matter since my point was that the dodgers went nuts this off season . But of course you completely missed that point . Like you always do
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Post by azbob643 on Feb 4, 2024 15:16:10 GMT -5
the trade gleyber thing has been beaten to death over at the yes forum. any trade we make for an established player is gonna be a parallel move. at best you're gonna get back a player more than likely in his walk year and that will leave a gaping hole at 2B. maybe fix one hole and create another. and if the answer is peraza (either at 2B or SS), then you're crazy because there isn't a GM who at this moment would even consider making peraza the full-time starter at either position. as a backup, he can earn (or not) his stripes.
this team needs offense. brainfarts and all, gleyber is that offense (top 5 at 2B). and if you trade him for prospects, then you haven't been paying attention. we didn't give up all that pitching for soto, not to be in it to win this season. it's win now or bust because we don't know where soto is gonna be next season. and we're not winning w peraza.
as far as this "glut" of IF'ers goes, seriously gleyber, peraza and cabrera is a glut?? on what planet. laughable. Yep…on all points. PS – Good to see you here.
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Post by bumper on Feb 4, 2024 15:18:18 GMT -5
the trade gleyber thing has been beaten to death over at the yes forum. any trade we make for an established player is gonna be a parallel move. at best you're gonna get back a player more than likely in his walk year and that will leave a gaping hole at 2B. maybe fix one hole and create another. and if the answer is peraza (either at 2B or SS), then you're crazy because there isn't a GM who at this moment would even consider making peraza the full-time starter at either position. as a backup, he can earn (or not) his stripes.
this team needs offense. brainfarts and all, gleyber is that offense (top 5 at 2B). and if you trade him for prospects, then you haven't been paying attention. we didn't give up all that pitching for soto, not to be in it to win this season. it's win now or bust because we don't know where soto is gonna be next season. and we're not winning w peraza.
as far as this "glut" of IF'ers goes, seriously gleyber, peraza and cabrera is a glut?? on what planet. laughable. And yet you really think adding soto makes them a ws contender?’ It takes more than 2 guys to contend for a title . don't think they went far enough but that was the idea in trading for him, adding more OF pieces and getting more LH'ed. do you think they traded all those pitchers for soto just to make the team prettier - more respectable. that's just crazy. they thought the moves would help them "win". unfortunately suddenly they felt they went far enough and are now relying on everyone being "healthy" and having the season their baseball cards say they're capable of. we all know that's a pipedream.
and if they're not in to "win it", then you don't trade for soto and maybe you do trade torres and make other moves to help set them up for '25 when go all out for soto. trading for him this season with no guarantee unless you think you can "win it" is just a plain stupid.
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Post by azbob643 on Feb 4, 2024 15:21:27 GMT -5
Would love to see the 6’ 6” , 225 pound Spencer Jones at 2B… 🤓 LH 2Bs are in high demand...
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Post by bumper on Feb 4, 2024 15:21:55 GMT -5
the trade gleyber thing has been beaten to death over at the yes forum. any trade we make for an established player is gonna be a parallel move. at best you're gonna get back a player more than likely in his walk year and that will leave a gaping hole at 2B. maybe fix one hole and create another. and if the answer is peraza (either at 2B or SS), then you're crazy because there isn't a GM who at this moment would even consider making peraza the full-time starter at either position. as a backup, he can earn (or not) his stripes.
this team needs offense. brainfarts and all, gleyber is that offense (top 5 at 2B). and if you trade him for prospects, then you haven't been paying attention. we didn't give up all that pitching for soto, not to be in it to win this season. it's win now or bust because we don't know where soto is gonna be next season. and we're not winning w peraza.
as far as this "glut" of IF'ers goes, seriously gleyber, peraza and cabrera is a glut?? on what planet. laughable. Yep…on all points. PS – Good to see you here. and btw you're right. giandonetc ...
since he's previously shown little IQ of any kind, was hoping he wouldn't find his way here.
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