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Post by azbob643 on Feb 4, 2024 15:22:50 GMT -5
Yep…on all points. PS – Good to see you here. and btw you're right. giandonetc ...
since he's previously shown little IQ of any kind, was hoping he wouldn't find his way here. No doubt. |
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Post by posadafan24 on Feb 4, 2024 15:29:32 GMT -5
And yet you really think adding soto makes them a ws contender?’ It takes more than 2 guys to contend for a title . don't think they went far enough but that was the idea in trading for him, adding more OF pieces and getting more LH'ed. do you think they traded all those pitchers for soto just to make the team prettier - more respectable. that's just crazy. they thought the moves would help them "win". unfortunately suddenly they felt they went far enough and are now relying on everyone being "healthy" and having the season their baseball cards say they're capable of. we all know that's a pipedream.
and if they're not in to "win it", then you don't trade for soto and maybe you do trade torres and make other moves to help set them up for '25 when go all out for soto. trading for him this season with no guarantee unless you think you can "win it" is just a plain stupid.
Well unless they re-sign him, they got soto to sell tickets , thats all it was . And them going half assed after that is proof of that . It was hal’s response to losing 40% in season ticket sales after last season . |
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Post by inger on Feb 4, 2024 15:32:18 GMT -5
What I meant to say was if the Yankees were ever going to trade Torres, that was the time to do it. As I said recently, if the Yankees had player at Triple A that put up Torres stats, I'm pretty sure that many Yankee fans would want the Yankees to promote that player. So tell me what do u think they shpuld do woth , vivas , and arias when both are mlb ready within the next two years after re signing torres? Right now Arias is a SS that looks he can stick there. Vivas is more likely going to be a utility piece, since neither his bat nor glove look to be exceptional… |
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Post by posadafan24 on Feb 4, 2024 15:40:16 GMT -5
So tell me what do u think they shpuld do woth , vivas , and arias when both are mlb ready within the next two years after re signing torres? Right now Arias is a SS that looks he can stick there. Vivas is more likely going to be a utility piece, since neither his bat nor glove look to be exceptional… then what do you do with torres , and volpe and peraza? |
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Post by Max on Feb 4, 2024 15:46:53 GMT -5
Wait a second, what happened? Some of the players in the Yankees bullpen are question marks according to you, but somehow Vivas and Arias aren't? Who says for sure that they will be MLB ready within 2 years? You seem to be posting in circles. I read that you said the Yankees can sign Torres after they trade him. I also read that said you would sign Torres to a 4 year contact at 30 million per season. Yet, I also read that you said Torres' glove sucks and there's a log jam at 2B. Which is it? By the way, I like Torres and even I wouldn't want the Yankees to pay him 30 million per season. What the Yankees should do if Vivas and Arias are MLB ready within the next 2 years after re-signing Torres is easy. But, people that don't answer my questions shouldn't expect me to answer their questions. I will post what I think about your question, just as soon as you answer the question I asked you... Which was... Do you deny that Ohtani's deferred contract that helped the Dodgers with the L-Tax played a role that allowed the Dodgers to make so many more moves? What in the hell does the bullpen have to do with the upcoming log jam in the infield as a result of keeping everyone including torres? As for the dodgers question , i already answered it when i said it didnt matter since my point was that the dodgers went nuts this off season . But of course you completely missed that point . Like you always do It has to do with you saying that some players in the bullpen are question marks, but yet that same standard doesn't seem to apply to Vivas and Arias in your post. |
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Post by inger on Feb 4, 2024 15:48:11 GMT -5
Right now Arias is a SS that looks he can stick there. Vivas is more likely going to be a utility piece, since neither his bat nor glove look to be exceptional… then what do you do with torres , and volpe and peraza? Until they prove themselves they’re simply fodder. Arias, by the way also has a serious gun that could see him move to third if we have a top shelf SS. So the answer is in the question in a sense. We do with those players as they deserve when the time comes, and that goes for Arias, too… |
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Post by posadafan24 on Feb 4, 2024 15:51:46 GMT -5
What in the hell does the bullpen have to do with the upcoming log jam in the infield as a result of keeping everyone including torres? As for the dodgers question , i already answered it when i said it didnt matter since my point was that the dodgers went nuts this off season . But of course you completely missed that point . Like you always do Clueless, it has to do with you saying that some players in the bullpen are question marks, but yet that same standard doesn't seem to apply to Vivas and Arias in your post. I never said vivas and arias werent question marks i simply asked what will be done with them when they are ready to reach the majors when they are projected to . Never said they would be ready for sure . |
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Post by inger on Feb 4, 2024 16:01:03 GMT -5
Y orbit is a funny name. It reminds me of a dumb movie Eddie Murphy made a few years back…
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Post by Max on Feb 4, 2024 16:06:39 GMT -5
Wait a second, what happened? Some of the players in the Yankees bullpen are question marks according to you, but somehow Vivas and Arias aren't? Who says for sure that they will be MLB ready within 2 years? You seem to be posting in circles. I read that you said the Yankees can sign Torres after they trade him. I also read that said you would sign Torres to a 4 year contact at 30 million per season. Yet, I also read that you said Torres' glove sucks and there's a log jam at 2B. Which is it? By the way, I like Torres and even I wouldn't want the Yankees to pay him 30 million per season. What the Yankees should do if Vivas and Arias are MLB ready within the next 2 years after re-signing Torres is easy. But, people that don't answer my questions shouldn't expect me to answer their questions. I will post what I think about your question, just as soon as you answer the question I asked you... Which was... Do you deny that Ohtani's deferred contract that helped the Dodgers with the L-Tax played a role that allowed the Dodgers to make so many more moves? What in the hell does the bullpen have to do with the upcoming log jam in the infield as a result of keeping everyone including torres? As for the dodgers question , i already answered it when i said it didnt matter since my point was that the dodgers went nuts this off season . But of course you completely missed that point . Like you always do Nope, I acknowledged your point more than once. But you seem to be projecting again. Anyway, the question I asked you was rhetorical. Ohtani's contract DID HELP the Dodgers with the L-Tax and ALLOWED the Dodgers to make more moves. |
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Post by Max on Feb 4, 2024 16:08:28 GMT -5
Clueless, it has to do with you saying that some players in the bullpen are question marks, but yet that same standard doesn't seem to apply to Vivas and Arias in your post. I never said vivas and arias werent question marks i simply asked what will be done with them when they are ready to reach the majors when they are projected to . Never said they would be ready for sure . So why are you worried about a log jam at 2B when you don't know if Vivas and Arias would be MLB ready for sure? |
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Post by posadafan24 on Feb 4, 2024 16:10:12 GMT -5
I never said vivas and arias werent question marks i simply asked what will be done with them when they are ready to reach the majors when they are projected to . Never said they would be ready for sure . So why are you worried about a log jam at 2B when you don't know if Vivas and Arias would be MLB ready for sure? Because there will be one if even one of arias or vivas are ready that soon and torres is re signed |
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Post by Max on Feb 4, 2024 16:13:19 GMT -5
So why are you worried about a log jam at 2B when you don't know if Vivas and Arias would be MLB ready for sure? Because there will be one if even one of arias or vivas are ready that soon and torres is re signed If that happened the Yankees have plenty of options. Trades, position changes. I read a few weeks ago that Arias is projected to be a 3Bman. It probably won't even come to that because as I have said, I expect the Yankees to either trade Torres or let him walk after the 2024 season. |
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Post by posadafan24 on Feb 4, 2024 16:15:32 GMT -5
Because there will be one if even one of arias or vivas are ready that soon and torres is re signed If that happened the Yankees have plenty of options. Trades, position changes. I read a few weeks ago that Arias is projected to be a 3Bman. And one of those trades should involve torres , especially if arias is projected to be a third baseman |
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Post by qwik3457bb on Feb 4, 2024 18:25:58 GMT -5
I would leadoff Verdugo against righties (career OBA vs righties is .346), Torres against lefties (Career OBA vs. lefties is .345).
If Torres' offensive adjustment to use the whole field more and pull for power less sinks in and can be counted on, then you can reconsider leading him off most of the time.
LeMahieu at leadoff is not a consideration at this point in time, until he can show that he has arrested his BAVG/OBA plummet from 2020 through 2023. His strikeout rate rose almost 70% last year, compared to his first four years on the Yankees and he's age 35, so the odds of that are not very good, I think.
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Post by posadafan24 on Feb 4, 2024 18:28:11 GMT -5
I would leadoff Verdugo against righties (career OBA vs righties is .346), Torres against lefties (Career OBA vs. lefties is .345). If Torres' offensive adjustment to use the whole field more and pull for power less sinks in and can be counted on, then you can reconsider leading him off most of the time. LeMahieu at leadoff is not a consideration at this point in time, until he can show that he has arrested his BAVG/OBA plummet from 2020 through 2023. His strikeout rate rose almost 70% last year, compared to his first four years on the Yankees and he's age 35, so the odds of that are not very good, I think. Only problem with them at leadoff is that neither are known for speed and especially in torres’s case isnt good on the base paths. And you need both in an ideal lead off hitter |
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