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Post by bomberhojoe on Feb 4, 2024 18:32:46 GMT -5
In reference to Peraza, there are multiple reports that the Yankees are working on a trade with the Marlins, and the principles are reliever Tanner Scott in exchange for Peraza.
Stay tuned.
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Post by azbob643 on Feb 4, 2024 18:47:04 GMT -5
In reference to Peraza, there are multiple reports that the Yankees are working on a trade with the Marlins, and the principles are reliever Tanner Scott in exchange for Peraza. Stay tuned. That makes a lot more sense than Gleyber...
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Post by bumper on Feb 4, 2024 19:16:23 GMT -5
In reference to Peraza, there are multiple reports that the Yankees are working on a trade with the Marlins, and the principles are reliever Tanner Scott in exchange for Peraza. Stay tuned. i woulda made that trade an hour ago.
that's what you do w our IF "surplus". and yeah maybe peraza does turn into a very serviceable IF'er but with the depletions to our pen, getting scott would be huge. he figured out how to throw strikes last season and now is a top reliever.
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Post by chiyankee on Feb 4, 2024 19:18:49 GMT -5
In reference to Peraza, there are multiple reports that the Yankees are working on a trade with the Marlins, and the principles are reliever Tanner Scott in exchange for Peraza. Stay tuned. Ugh, that would be so Cashman. Hang on to Peraza and then finally trade him for a reliever coming off a career year.
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Post by azbob643 on Feb 4, 2024 19:29:59 GMT -5
In reference to Peraza, there are multiple reports that the Yankees are working on a trade with the Marlins, and the principles are reliever Tanner Scott in exchange for Peraza. Stay tuned. i woulda made that trade an hour ago.
that's what you do w our IF "surplus". and yeah maybe peraza does turn into a very serviceable IF'er but with the depletions to our pen, getting scott would be huge. he figured out how to throw strikes last season and now is a top reliever. Peraza is a GG caliber SS...his glove would be wasted at 2B/3B. But he's yet to show he can hit ML pitching. Granted, very small sample size. As has been noted here, Yanks have several MIFs in the pipeline, so he's expendable.
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Post by posadafan24 on Feb 4, 2024 19:40:19 GMT -5
In reference to Peraza, there are multiple reports that the Yankees are working on a trade with the Marlins, and the principles are reliever Tanner Scott in exchange for Peraza. Stay tuned. i woulda made that trade an hour ago.
that's what you do w our IF "surplus". and yeah maybe peraza does turn into a very serviceable IF'er but with the depletions to our pen, getting scott would be huge. he figured out how to throw strikes last season and now is a top reliever. Really? The guy has a career era of 4 . I dont think i would trade peraza for that even though he isnt worth much trade wise . And one good season after 3 or 4 mediocre ones doesnt make him a top reliever . Especially with how volatile relievers are known to be
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Post by posadafan24 on Feb 4, 2024 19:43:07 GMT -5
In reference to Peraza, there are multiple reports that the Yankees are working on a trade with the Marlins, and the principles are reliever Tanner Scott in exchange for Peraza. Stay tuned. Ugh, that would be so Cashman. Hang on to Peraza and then finally trade him for a reliever coming off a career year. Yeah that trade likely has failure written all over it imo
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Post by inger on Feb 4, 2024 20:31:44 GMT -5
A guy with 12k/9 for a .191 hitting kid with a glove and no position in NY? I’m in…
HE’s also a lefty…
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Post by qwik3457bb on Feb 4, 2024 21:54:51 GMT -5
I would leadoff Verdugo against righties (career OBA vs righties is .346), Torres against lefties (Career OBA vs. lefties is .345). If Torres' offensive adjustment to use the whole field more and pull for power less sinks in and can be counted on, then you can reconsider leading him off most of the time. LeMahieu at leadoff is not a consideration at this point in time, until he can show that he has arrested his BAVG/OBA plummet from 2020 through 2023. His strikeout rate rose almost 70% last year, compared to his first four years on the Yankees and he's age 35, so the odds of that are not very good, I think. Only problem with them at leadoff is that neither are known for speed and especially in torres’s case isnt good on the base paths. And you need both in an ideal lead off hitter Ideally, yes, you'd want a leadoff hitter with top speed and an elite OBA. But the Phillies have led off with Kyle Schwarber for two years now, and won a pennant one year and got to the NLCS the next year. Altuve used to be extremely fast, but his sprint speed has fallen below Verdugo's. The O's have Rutschman leading off for them, and his sprint speed is below Verdugo's as well. Given a choice between a leadoff man with a high OBA and mediocre to poor speed and a leadoff man who's top 20 in sprint speed but can't crack .310 in OBA, I'll take the slower guy every time. But, yes, you're right. Ideally, you want both. Like Trea Turner or Mookie Betts.
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Post by chiyankee on Feb 4, 2024 23:00:53 GMT -5
Only problem with them at leadoff is that neither are known for speed and especially in torres’s case isnt good on the base paths. And you need both in an ideal lead off hitter Ideally, yes, you'd want a leadoff hitter with top speed and an elite OBA. But the Phillies have led off with Kyle Schwarber for two years now, and won a pennant one year and got to the NLCS the next year. Altuve used to be extremely fast, but his sprint speed has fallen below Verdugo's. The O's have Rutschman leading off for them, and his sprint speed is below Verdugo's as well. Given a choice between a leadoff man with a high OBA and mediocre to poor speed and a leadoff man who's top 20 in sprint speed but can't crack .310 in OBA, I'll take the slower guy every time. But, yes, you're right. Ideally, you want both. Like Trea Turner or Mookie Betts. Wade Boggs was one of the best leadoff hitters in the American League and he couldn't run a lick.
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Post by posadafan24 on Feb 5, 2024 5:40:23 GMT -5
Ideally, yes, you'd want a leadoff hitter with top speed and an elite OBA. But the Phillies have led off with Kyle Schwarber for two years now, and won a pennant one year and got to the NLCS the next year. Altuve used to be extremely fast, but his sprint speed has fallen below Verdugo's. The O's have Rutschman leading off for them, and his sprint speed is below Verdugo's as well. Given a choice between a leadoff man with a high OBA and mediocre to poor speed and a leadoff man who's top 20 in sprint speed but can't crack .310 in OBA, I'll take the slower guy every time. But, yes, you're right. Ideally, you want both. Like Trea Turner or Mookie Betts. Wade Boggs was one of the best leadoff hitters in the American League and he couldn't run a lick. But he was pretty good on the base paths .
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Post by inger on Feb 5, 2024 6:16:03 GMT -5
Wade Boggs was one of the best leadoff hitters in the American League and he couldn't run a lick. But he was pretty good on the base paths . He did okay on the bases for the situation he was in. He wax pretty much a station to station runner, yet he scored over 100 runs per season for 7 straight seasons. During those seasons he often had 40 or more doubles and a powerful line up behind him that could have driven home Giancarlo Stanton in his current state. For most teams he would have been a base clogger. But for a hard hitting Red Sox team in a park like Fenway he was the right man at the right time…
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Post by themartian on Feb 5, 2024 8:09:47 GMT -5
In my opinion, it's either a reading comprehension issue or purposely twisting things around in order to argue and or talk spit. I'm not speaking about anyone in particular, but if anyone thinks the shoe fits them, they can wear it. I won't lose sleep over it. If Torres' trade value diminished it's because he's in his walk year. Looks like the best time to trade him would have been for Lopez, but from what I read the Yankees and the Marlins couldn't agree to a trade. It takes 2 GM to tango. Torres has proven that he can play under the pressure it takes to play for the Yankees. The Pinstripes aren't too heavy for Torres. As we know, that's not the case for everyone that has played for the Yankees. I'll name names..."themartian" (GianDonEtc") and "posadafan24" (?unknown at this time?). As we know from previous experience, "GianDonEtc" can and will go on for months, even years, doing exactly that. Seems "posadafan24" has the same proclivity. IMO, there's never been a good time to trade Gleyber, and now is definitely not the right time. Not because he's in his walk year, but because you don't trade a 27 yo proven offensive force, especially from a team as weak hitting as the Yanks have been. Lots of talk re pitching being suspect. That being the case, they're gonna need all the offensive firepower they can get. Feels like you're not only the one "going on" forever but also getting upset and flinging mud/name calling. Take another read through this thread and then take a long look in the mirror because what comes out of you at times ain't pretty. You get downright nasty over a difference of opinion about baseball, try to be better. Gleyber is going to be a FA and "firepower" or not, he's a very flawed player who is probably going to take home a hefty payday. It would be a valid baseball decision to allow him to walk and not get on the hook for a costly long deal with him. Might not be your opinion but there is nothing wrong with that line of thought.
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Post by posadafan24 on Feb 5, 2024 12:05:22 GMT -5
I'll name names..."themartian" (GianDonEtc") and "posadafan24" (?unknown at this time?). As we know from previous experience, "GianDonEtc" can and will go on for months, even years, doing exactly that. Seems "posadafan24" has the same proclivity. IMO, there's never been a good time to trade Gleyber, and now is definitely not the right time. Not because he's in his walk year, but because you don't trade a 27 yo proven offensive force, especially from a team as weak hitting as the Yanks have been. Lots of talk re pitching being suspect. That being the case, they're gonna need all the offensive firepower they can get. Feels like you're not only the one "going on" forever but also getting upset and flinging mud/name calling. Take another read through this thread and then take a long look in the mirror because what comes out of you at times ain't pretty. You get downright nasty over a difference of opinion about baseball, try to be better. Gleyber is going to be a FA and "firepower" or not, he's a very flawed player who is probably going to take home a hefty payday. It would be a valid baseball decision to allow him to walk and not get on the hook for a costly long deal with him. Might not be your opinion but there is nothing wrong with that line of thought. They are not only nasty , they seem to have a habit of going off point in hopes of starting drama too
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Post by themartian on Feb 5, 2024 12:14:47 GMT -5
Feels like you're not only the one "going on" forever but also getting upset and flinging mud/name calling. Take another read through this thread and then take a long look in the mirror because what comes out of you at times ain't pretty. You get downright nasty over a difference of opinion about baseball, try to be better. Gleyber is going to be a FA and "firepower" or not, he's a very flawed player who is probably going to take home a hefty payday. It would be a valid baseball decision to allow him to walk and not get on the hook for a costly long deal with him. Might not be your opinion but there is nothing wrong with that line of thought. They are not only nasty , they seem to have a habit of going off point in hopes of starting drama too And/or evading genuine baseball questions that don't support their opinion. You come for a discussion and you get mud slinging instead.
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