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Post by Max on Feb 5, 2024 17:33:27 GMT -5
In reference to Peraza, there are multiple reports that the Yankees are working on a trade with the Marlins, and the principles are reliever Tanner Scott in exchange for Peraza. Stay tuned. i woulda made that trade an hour ago.
that's what you do w our IF "surplus". and yeah maybe peraza does turn into a very serviceable IF'er but with the depletions to our pen, getting scott would be huge. he figured out how to throw strikes last season and now is a top reliever. If Scott is willing sign a contract extension, I'd like to see the Yankees expand that trade and maybe get Garrett included in such a trade. |
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Post by posadafan24 on Feb 5, 2024 17:35:18 GMT -5
And/or evading genuine baseball questions that don't support their opinion. You come for a discussion and you get mud slinging instead.
You get what you give. LOL! @ the both of you "innocent" posters. The proof of how off base the 2 of you are is how this message board was peaceful, and civil before the both of you joined. One of you even had the nerve to get sarcastic with one of the nicest posters on this message board. He was very welcoming and nice as were all the other message board members here that welcomed YES posters to this message board.
Oh no iI never claimed to be innocent , i just call it like i see it . Besides my use of sarcasm is hardly the only time someone has used sarcasm on this board so quit being so hypocritical. |
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Post by posadafan24 on Feb 5, 2024 17:37:36 GMT -5
Oh i dunno maybe its because part of playing 2b is not having to often throw the ball as hard as you do from ss . This is over your head Then explain why torres is no longer a top ten 2b |
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Post by Max on Feb 5, 2024 17:38:13 GMT -5
You get what you give. LOL! @ the both of you "innocent" posters. The proof of how off base the 2 of you are is how this message board was peaceful, and civil before the both of you joined. One of you even had the nerve to get sarcastic with one of the nicest posters on this message board. He was very welcoming and nice as were all the other message board members here that welcomed YES posters to this message board.
Oh no iI never claimed to be innocent , i just call it like i see it . Besides my use of sarcasm is hardly the only time someone has used sarcasm on this board so quit being so hypocritical.
As I said, you get what you give. If you're calling it like you see it, then maybe you need an eye checkup. You used rude sarcasm towards someone that said nothing to provoke you in anyway, and didn't even have the decency to apologize.
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Post by inger on Feb 5, 2024 17:44:30 GMT -5
Another one fails to understand physics. If a SS can throw a ball 86.5 MPH, using the top 5% of his throws by velocity (ie the plays where he needs to throw the ball hard) how the hell can you tell me that the same player is physically incapable of throwing the same ball 86.5 mph under the same circumstances but from a shorter distance ??????? Oh i dunno maybe its because part of playing 2b is not having to often throw the ball as hard as you do from ss . I think you’ve hit in something here. What if 2023 just happened to be an outlier season where Gleyber didn’t have that many close plays at first base? I recall a play I watched last year when he did a lazy soft side arm toss and the runner almost beat it out. He actually hung his head a bit, realizing how lucky he had been to get the guy. So if it’s top 5% of your throws and you seldom had to air it out, it could create a false impression due to small sample. These stats haven’t been around long enough to know if they’re alway meaningful. The 5% is arbitrary. What if the stat was created at that ratio and they find out that to make it meaningful it has to be the top 3%, or 2% or 1%? What if some infielders just like to show their arm off and crank it up more often than needed? I suggest we watch in 2024 and see what happens… |
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Post by posadafan24 on Feb 5, 2024 17:46:13 GMT -5
Oh no iI never claimed to be innocent , i just call it like i see it . Besides my use of sarcasm is hardly the only time someone has used sarcasm on this board so quit being so hypocritical.
As I said, you get what you give. If you're calling it like you see it, then maybe you need an eye checkup. You used rude sarcasm towards someone that said nothing to provoke you in anyway, and didn't even have the decency to apologize.
You are right you get what you give , thats why i wont apologize for using a little sarcasm .. and thats why you shouldnt complain either . This is a public message board not a grade school . We are all adults here , if you cant handle a little sarcasm thats not my problem. All i am doing now is calling you out for what you have been doing not playing innocent victim . |
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Post by posadafan24 on Feb 5, 2024 17:47:57 GMT -5
Oh i dunno maybe its because part of playing 2b is not having to often throw the ball as hard as you do from ss . I think you’ve hit in something here. What if 2023 just happened to be an outlier season where Gleyber didn’t have that many close plays at first base? I recall a play I watched last year when he did a lazy soft side arm toss and the runner almost beat it out. He actually hung his head a bit, realizing how lucky he had been to get the guy. So if it’s top 5% of your throws and you seldom had to air it out, it could create a false impression due to small sample. These stats haven’t been around long enough to know if they’re alway meaningful. The 5% is arbitrary. What if the stat was created at that ratio and they find out that to make it meaningful it has to be the top 3%, or 2% or 1%? What if some infielders just like to show their arm off and crank it up more often than needed? I suggest we watch in 2024 and see what happens… Careful someone will say the convo went over your head |
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Post by inger on Feb 5, 2024 17:51:19 GMT -5
I think you’ve hit in something here. What if 2023 just happened to be an outlier season where Gleyber didn’t have that many close plays at first base? I recall a play I watched last year when he did a lazy soft side arm toss and the runner almost beat it out. He actually hung his head a bit, realizing how lucky he had been to get the guy. So if it’s top 5% of your throws and you seldom had to air it out, it could create a false impression due to small sample. These stats haven’t been around long enough to know if they’re alway meaningful. The 5% is arbitrary. What if the stat was created at that ratio and they find out that to make it meaningful it has to be the top 3%, or 2% or 1%? What if some infielders just like to show their arm off and crank it up more often than needed? I suggest we watch in 2024 and see what happens… Careful someone will say the convo went over your head Lol. It would t be the first time. I tend to be a deep thinker and once in a while I even out think myself… |
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Post by Max on Feb 5, 2024 17:56:48 GMT -5
As I said, you get what you give. If you're calling it like you see it, then maybe you need an eye checkup. You used rude sarcasm towards someone that said nothing to provoke you in anyway, and didn't even have the decency to apologize.
You are right you get what you give , thats why i wont apologize for using a little sarcasm .. and thats why you shouldnt complain either . This is a public message board not a grade school . We are all adults here , if you cant handle a little sarcasm thats not my problem. All i am doing now is calling you out for what you have been doing not playing innocent victim . Call yourself out. Once again, you're projecting. I'm not talking about the amateurish sarcasm you posted to me. It was how you treated Chi. Also, this isn't a public message board. Even if it was, that wouldn't be an excuse for your behavior. You don't need to be in grade school in order to act like an adult. Adults with class apologize when they are rude to someone for no reason. |
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Post by inger on Feb 5, 2024 17:59:41 GMT -5
Well, we’ve gone from fighting over the subject matter to fighting over fighting. I hope it’s productive… <sarcasm intended>…
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Post by themartian on Feb 5, 2024 18:02:24 GMT -5
Oh i dunno maybe its because part of playing 2b is not having to often throw the ball as hard as you do from ss . I think you’ve hit in something here. What if 2023 just happened to be an outlier season where Gleyber didn’t have that many close plays at first base? I recall a play I watched last year when he did a lazy soft side arm toss and the runner almost beat it out. He actually hung his head a bit, realizing how lucky he had been to get the guy. So if it’s top 5% of your throws and you seldom had to air it out, it could create a false impression due to small sample. These stats haven’t been around long enough to know if they’re alway meaningful. The 5% is arbitrary. What if the stat was created at that ratio and they find out that to make it meaningful it has to be the top 3%, or 2% or 1%? What if some infielders just like to show their arm off and crank it up more often than needed? I suggest we watch in 2024 and see what happens… We shall see. The fastest he threw all season though was 82 MPH, and surely he had at least one play where he went all out. The most heat he could muster was still well below the average of most 2b. |
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Post by rizzuto on Feb 5, 2024 18:13:42 GMT -5
Well, we’ve gone from fighting over the subject matter to fighting over fighting. I hope it’s productive… <sarcasm intended>… How’s the ass, Inger? |
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Post by Max on Feb 5, 2024 18:14:39 GMT -5
Well, we’ve gone from fighting over the subject matter to fighting over fighting. I hope it’s productive… <sarcasm intended>…
That sarcasm is justified. I can't speak for others, but I apologize if my part in the non baseball posts if they annoyed you and any of the other nice people that welcomed me here.
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Post by azbob643 on Feb 5, 2024 18:17:58 GMT -5
C'mon You have to throw harder from SS and even harder from 3rd base. You usually dont have to throw 90 mph to a guy that is 10-20 feet away from you 2020 - SS - Max 89.0 MPH / Overall 87.6 MPH 2021 - SS - Max 91.5 MPH / 2B 75.1 MPH / Overall 85.8 MPH 2022 - 2B - Max 84.5 MPH / Overall 79.7 MPH 2023 - 2B - Max 82.0 MPH / Overall 76.0 MPH The arm strength for 2021, when he played both SS/2B, indicate the different speeds thrown from SS/2B during the same year. The arm strength 2022/2023, when he played exclusively 2B, indicate a Max of 84.5 / 82.0, Overall 79.7 / 76.0 baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/gleyber-torres-650402?stats=statcast-r-fielding-mlb |
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Post by Max on Feb 5, 2024 18:20:11 GMT -5
Max 91.5 MPH
Don't I wish! Even in his prime Max never threw 91.5 MPH. 
All jokes aside, that was a great find Bob. Jeimer Candelario shows that a 3Bman doesn't need an above average arm.
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