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Post by azbob643 on Jan 31, 2024 14:46:40 GMT -5
Simple...Gleyber is the better bat and Peraza is the better glove, which you want up the middle. And yet Peraza played 3b and Gleyber was kept at 2b. Why was that? Hasn't it already been established that you don't move an IF to an unfamiliar position during the season?
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Post by themartian on Jan 31, 2024 14:46:58 GMT -5
How does 3B require “more baseball smarts” than 2B? What is it you believe makes 2B a “less physically demanding position” than 3B? As for players “moving to the right side of the IF”…virtually every ML 2B was originally a SS thru high school, college and probably into the minors, and moved to 2B by the time they got to ML or 3B later in their career. Don’t know of any 3Bs who eventually moved to the “less physically demanding position” of 2B early or later in their careers. Can you name a few? No position on a baseball field is “easy”…each has its own unique challenges. But 2B has far more responsibilities than 3B…turning the DP, covering the bag on steal attempts, covering 1B on bunts, taking the relay from OF to name a few. I have to wonder…have you ever actually played the game of baseball? DJLM is an example wd have placed right in front of us. Players done move to the right side. They move to the corners… I just don't get the idea that 3b definitely opens up in 2025. Maybe they move him to 1b, but DJ wouldn't be the first player to play 3b in to his late 30s. He'll be here through 2026. I think they will need to make room for Soto's $$ in 2025, and DJ is already signed. Gleyber's potential extension $$ is something I'm not sure they'll want to have be an obstacle to bringing back Soto. Of course if Soto walks then who knows.
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Post by azbob643 on Jan 31, 2024 14:47:36 GMT -5
And yet Peraza played 3b and Gleyber was kept at 2b. Why was that? I want to see the answer to that one too . Then check my last post..."genius".
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Post by posadafan24 on Jan 31, 2024 14:48:42 GMT -5
If that was his natural position, then it calls in to question all of the scouting reports about his fielding that came from years ago before he became a pro. It doesn't really hold much water if those scouts and/or managers said he could play 3b if they also said he was a natural SS. Like many IFs, Gleyber was signed as a SS. Now you, someone with absolutely no background or experience as a professional talent evaluator, are questioning the evaluations of those who are. You’re also claiming to absolutely know that Gleyber can’t play 3B. How do you arrive at that conclusion with no knowledge or evidence to support that claim? PS - You're not fooling anyone. Neither are you . You have no evidence that torres can be better at third base than at second and yet here you are proclaiming just that .
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Post by themartian on Jan 31, 2024 14:50:16 GMT -5
If that was his natural position, then it calls in to question all of the scouting reports about his fielding that came from years ago before he became a pro. It doesn't really hold much water if those scouts and/or managers said he could play 3b if they also said he was a natural SS. Like many IFs, Gleyber was signed as a SS. Now you, someone with absolutely no background or experience as a professional talent evaluator, are questioning the evaluations of those who are. You’re also claiming to absolutely know that Gleyber can’t play 3B. How do you arrive at that conclusion with no knowledge or evidence to support that claim? PS - You're not fooling anyone. So you're saying I need to be an expert to have an opinion? I'm talking to someone with absolutely no background or experience as a professional talent evaluator, so why would it matter? I do know that many players who are signed as SSs when they're young don't go on to be SSs at the major league level. All you have to be is an attentive baseball fan to know that. And no, I didn't claim he can't play 3b. I said I would be reluctant to give him an extension with the idea that I'd make him a 3b without ever seeing him play even one inning there. He'd have to prove to me he could play 3b in the majors first. Scouting reports from 2015/2016 wouldn't sway me.
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Post by posadafan24 on Jan 31, 2024 14:50:17 GMT -5
And yet Peraza played 3b and Gleyber was kept at 2b. Why was that? Hasn't it already been established that you don't move an IF to an unfamiliar position during the season? And yet they did that with peraza last year . Heck in 22 they did that with cabrera in the of when he never played there before
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Post by azbob643 on Jan 31, 2024 14:50:33 GMT -5
Like many IFs, Gleyber was signed as a SS. Now you, someone with absolutely no background or experience as a professional talent evaluator, are questioning the evaluations of those who are. You’re also claiming to absolutely know that Gleyber can’t play 3B. How do you arrive at that conclusion with no knowledge or evidence to support that claim? PS - You're not fooling anyone. Neither are you . You have no evidence that torres can be better at third base than at second and yet here you are proclaiming just that . You have no idea what you're talking about..."genius".
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Post by azbob643 on Jan 31, 2024 14:51:33 GMT -5
Hasn't it already been established that you don't move an IF to an unfamiliar position during the season? And yet they did that with peraza last year . Heck in 22 they did that with cabrera in the of when he never player there before LOL!!! You really are clueless...
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Post by posadafan24 on Jan 31, 2024 14:51:55 GMT -5
Neither are you . You have no evidence that torres can be better at third base than at second and yet here you are proclaiming just that . You have no idea what you're talking about..."genius". Neither do you if you actually think its a good idea to move torres to third .
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Post by posadafan24 on Jan 31, 2024 14:53:35 GMT -5
And yet they did that with peraza last year . Heck in 22 they did that with cabrera in the of when he never player there before LOL!!! You really are clueless... Really ?! Wasnt cabrera an IF before they tried in him in the OF ? Isnt peraza an IF and didnt they move him to third last year in the majors?
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Post by azbob643 on Jan 31, 2024 14:57:02 GMT -5
So you're saying I need to be an expert to have an opinion? Didn’t say you're not entitled to your opinion. I said you, someone with absolutely no history or experience in evaluating talent, somehow believe you’re better at it than those who do it for a living.
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Post by posadafan24 on Jan 31, 2024 14:58:00 GMT -5
So you're saying I need to be an expert to have an opinion? Didn’t say you're not entitled to your opinion. I said you, someone with absolutely no history or experience in evaluating talent, somehow believe you’re better at it than those who do it for a living. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black
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Post by azbob643 on Jan 31, 2024 14:58:36 GMT -5
LOL!!! You really are clueless... Really ?! Wasnt cabrera an IF before they tried in him in the OF ? Isnt peraza an IF and didnt they move him to third last year in the majors? Cabrera was a bench player filling in as a utility player. That's what utility players do..."genius".
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Post by azbob643 on Jan 31, 2024 14:59:37 GMT -5
Didn’t say you're not entitled to your opinion. I said you, someone with absolutely no history or experience in evaluating talent, somehow believe you’re better at it than those who do it for a living. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black Man , you're even dumber than I thought. I've never questioned the evaluations of those who do it professionally..."genius".
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Post by themartian on Jan 31, 2024 15:00:21 GMT -5
And yet Peraza played 3b and Gleyber was kept at 2b. Why was that? Hasn't it already been established that you don't move an IF to an unfamiliar position during the season? Why didn't they let Gleyber play there in ST then? Why didn't they make a switch when they were out of contention? That's evidence they aren't thinking about moving him there. I've yet to see any evidence that would show they are planning it.
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