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Post by posadafan24 on Jan 31, 2024 17:19:15 GMT -5
It's not. 3B requires quick reflexes that many players have, Torres being one of them. A 3Bman doesn't have to have the range of a 2Bman, a 3Bman is also less likely to be knocked over as a 2B would be when a runner is trying to break up a double-play. But, I'm not saying anything that you don't already know. Of course it’s not. There’s nothing “more physically demanding” playing 3B as opposed to 2B. In fact, 2B requires much more athleticism and the ability to handle a much wider variety of plays than 3B. That’s not even debatable. Most 3Bs are there for a reason…limited range. That’s why SS are required to cover the ground to 3Bs left…that’s why it’s called a hole. Third base is called the hot corner too . I still dont see how its a good idea to move a guy who sucked at ss , was below average at second to third base and expect him to suddenly be better . Especially in his walk year with no experience at third |
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Post by azbob643 on Jan 31, 2024 17:27:12 GMT -5
Of course it’s not. There’s nothing “more physically demanding” playing 3B as opposed to 2B. In fact, 2B requires much more athleticism and the ability to handle a much wider variety of plays than 3B. That’s not even debatable. Most 3Bs are there for a reason…limited range. That’s why SS are required to cover the ground to 3Bs left…that’s why it’s called a hole. Third base is called the hot corner too . I still dont see how its a good idea to move a guy who sucked at ss , was below average at second to third base and expect him to suddenly be better . Especially in his walk year with no experience at third No surprise I have to say this again... Never said he should be moved in this, his walk year, before being extended. In fact...I said the exact opposite. |
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Post by posadafan24 on Jan 31, 2024 17:33:03 GMT -5
Third base is called the hot corner too . I still dont see how its a good idea to move a guy who sucked at ss , was below average at second to third base and expect him to suddenly be better . Especially in his walk year with no experience at third No surprise I have to say this again... Never said he should be moved in this, his walk year, before being extended. In fact...I said the exact opposite. So the first thing you want to do after extending him long term to a lot of money is move him to a spot he never played before . Yeah thats real smart . |
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Post by azbob643 on Jan 31, 2024 17:40:10 GMT -5
Third base is called the hot corner too . I still dont see how its a good idea to move a guy who sucked at ss , was below average at second to third base and expect him to suddenly be better . Do you understand there are different skills required to play different positions on a baseball field? That's why players end up at the positions they do. For instance, you wouldn't put a GG 1B at SS and expect GG play. Gleyber's play at 2B or SS has nothing at all to do with his ability to play 3B. In fact, his skills are much better suited to 3B than any other IF position. |
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Post by azbob643 on Jan 31, 2024 17:42:57 GMT -5
No surprise I have to say this again... Never said he should be moved in this, his walk year, before being extended. In fact...I said the exact opposite. So the first thing you want to do after extending him long term to a lot of money is move him to a spot he never played before . Yeah thats real smart . Wow...you're way too dense to even attempt a semi-intelligent discussion re this topic. |
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Post by posadafan24 on Jan 31, 2024 17:57:46 GMT -5
Third base is called the hot corner too . I still dont see how its a good idea to move a guy who sucked at ss , was below average at second to third base and expect him to suddenly be better . Do you understand there are different skills required to play different positions on a baseball field? That's why players end up at the positions they do. For instance, you wouldn't put a GG 1B at SS. Gleyber's play at 2B or SS has nothing at all to do with his ability to play 3B. In fact, his skills are much better suited to 3B than any other IF position. [b What skills has he shown other than a strong arm , that makes him better at third? Because all i have seen is a guy with a below avg glove make bone headed plays in multiple positions on the field . |
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Post by azbob643 on Jan 31, 2024 18:01:36 GMT -5
Do you understand there are different skills required to play different positions on a baseball field? That's why players end up at the positions they do. For instance, you wouldn't put a GG 1B at SS. Gleyber's play at 2B or SS has nothing at all to do with his ability to play 3B. In fact, his skills are much better suited to 3B than any other IF position. [b What skills has he shown other than a strong arm , that makes him better at third? I see...now you acknowledge he has the arm to play 3B. Quick reflexes + good glove + limited range + strong arm = 3B. |
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Post by domeplease on Jan 31, 2024 18:10:03 GMT -5
After reading this page I am totally confused and wondering what the heck??? Only one thing can help me here = Please pass me the Popcorn Mushroom Bowl.
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Post by posadafan24 on Jan 31, 2024 18:13:20 GMT -5
[b What skills has he shown other than a strong arm , that makes him better at third? I see...now you acknowledge he has the arm to play 3B. Quick reflexes + good glove + limited range + strong arm = 3B. See thats where your mistake is , he doesnt have very good reflexes and his glove is below average . |
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Post by azbob643 on Jan 31, 2024 18:18:32 GMT -5
I see...now you acknowledge he has the arm to play 3B. Quick reflexes + good glove + limited range + strong arm = 3B. See thats where your mistake is , he doesnt have very good reflexes and his glove is below average . So you say... Tell me...what specifically leads you to say he doesn't have good reflexes or a good glove? Didn't you say his problem at SS was "his ability to throw"? Don't bother attempting to answer...the question is rhetorical. |
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Post by posadafan24 on Jan 31, 2024 18:53:15 GMT -5
See thats where your mistake is , he doesnt have very good reflexes and his glove is below average . So you say... Tell me...what specifically leads you to say he doesn't have good reflexes or a good glove? Didn't you say his problem at SS was "his ability to throw"? Don't bother attempting to answer...the question is rhetorical. [br I actually asked if his problem was his ability to throw i didnt say it was his problem. But the point is , his glove is not good . And it isnt . And yet you said it was . So therefore your argument is flawed. And If his glove was good , then why was he such a failure at ss and still subpar at second ? And why would it suddenly become good at 3b where he has never played before . I mean they even tried torres in left field a couple of times and quickly moved him back to second |
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Post by qimqam on Jan 31, 2024 18:55:38 GMT -5
Hasn't it already been established that you don't move an IF to an unfamiliar position during the season? Why didn't they let Gleyber play there in ST then? Why didn't they make a switch when they were out of contention? That's evidence they aren't thinking about moving him there. I've yet to see any evidence that would show they are planning it. Because they dont have a 2nd baseman to replace him |
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Post by posadafan24 on Jan 31, 2024 18:56:51 GMT -5
Why didn't they let Gleyber play there in ST then? Why didn't they make a switch when they were out of contention? That's evidence they aren't thinking about moving him there. I've yet to see any evidence that would show they are planning it. Because they dont have a 2nd baseman to replace him Yes they do , DJ is a gold glove second baseman |
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Post by qimqam on Jan 31, 2024 19:00:28 GMT -5
I have no idea what you're referring to. When have "those experts...shown no interest in doing that?" Well look at last year , they kept torres at second and moved perazs to third and also tried cabrera at third at one point too . That shows me that they had no interest in moving torres to third Or no interest in moving him off second |
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Post by qimqam on Jan 31, 2024 19:02:22 GMT -5
You forget one thing , those guys you listed had good to great gloves . Torres doesnt have a good glove . Molitor was a bit Gleyber-like in that he struggled to play 2B well. He went in to play a half decent 3B before injuries diminished his skill set to the point that he had to DH to stay healthy. I’m glad to see that you recognize the problem though. Torres doesn’t have a good glove, and that harms the team at his current position. It’s strange to me because he sometimes makes tremendous plays and then he’ll make a boneheaded gaff on what appears to be an easy play. I don’t think it’s his glove as much as his focus… Make up your mind |
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