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Post by azbob643 on Mar 29, 2024 18:56:15 GMT -5
Cristian Javier goes for the Astros. He was 10-5 for the Astros last year, but his ERA jumped 2 full runs from 2022. He relies on a very deceptive fastball that isn't all that fast, but has elite spin and therefore elite vertical break upward, so much so that hitters think they see it as it comes in, but swing under it, popping it up or missing it altogether. He owned the Yanks from the moment he came up until last season, when, as part of his overall down season, they hit him pretty well in both of his starts against them.
Aside from the rising fastball that averages 93, which he threw not quite 60% of the time last year, he threw the slider around 30% of the time with an avg velo of about 80, a curve at 77 he threw about 8% of the time and a change at 84 that he threw 4% of the timeA fastball cannot rise and defy gravity unless it is thrown with significant speed and spin. For a baseball to disrupt air pressure enough to avoid the force of gravity, the ball must be thrown at 123 mph with a spin rate of 3300 rpm. One exception to this rule is for pitchers with a submarine throwing motion, meaning they wind up and release their pitches below their waist, similar to fast-pitch softball. While pitchers with this motion are rare because of the fact that they release the ball so close to the ground, the ball will actually rise on its path to home plate.
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Post by qwik3457bb on Mar 29, 2024 19:02:09 GMT -5
Against Javier: Torres is 3-12 with 2 K's Soto is 1-2 with 3 BB and 1 K Judge is 0-10 with 2 BB and 6 K (!?) Rizzo is 1-6 with 1 K Stanton is 1-6 with 5 K; the one hit was a 2 run HR that helped the Yanks jump on Javier for 3 in 1st, on August 3rd last year. Yanks won, 4-3. Verdugo is 1-7 with 3 BB and 1 K Volpe is 0-3 with 1 BB Wells is 0-2 with 1 K Cabrera is 1-2 with 1 K Against Rodon: Altuve is 6-23 with a HR, 2 RBI, 2 BB and 5 K Alvarez is 1-3 with a HR, 2 RBI, 1 BB and 1 K Tucker is 1-5 with a RBI, a BB and 2 K Bregman is 2-10 with a BB and a K Abreu is 1-3, a solo HR and a K McCormick is 0-4 with 2 K Diaz is 0-2, both K's Pena is 1-2 with a BB and a SB Meyers is 1-3, the one hit is a 3 run HR Well, the Yankee record vs. Javier was preposterously bad until last year. A team literally could not fail more against a particular starter than they had been doing. But his stuff declined, which is why the Astros re-worked his repertoire.
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Post by qwik3457bb on Mar 29, 2024 19:06:30 GMT -5
Cristian Javier goes for the Astros. He was 10-5 for the Astros last year, but his ERA jumped 2 full runs from 2022. He relies on a very deceptive fastball that isn't all that fast, but has elite spin and therefore elite vertical break upward, so much so that hitters think they see it as it comes in, but swing under it, popping it up or missing it altogether. He owned the Yanks from the moment he came up until last season, when, as part of his overall down season, they hit him pretty well in both of his starts against them.
Aside from the rising fastball that averages 93, which he threw not quite 60% of the time last year, he threw the slider around 30% of the time with an avg velo of about 80, a curve at 77 he threw about 8% of the time and a change at 84 that he threw 4% of the timeA fastball cannot rise and defy gravity unless it is thrown with significant speed and spin. For a baseball to disrupt air pressure enough to avoid the force of gravity, the ball must be thrown at 123 mph with a spin rate of 3300 rpm. One exception to this rule is for pitchers with a submarine throwing motion, meaning they wind up and release their pitches below their waist, similar to fast-pitch softball. While pitchers with this motion are rare because of the fact that they release the ball so close to the ground, the ball will actually rise on its path to home plate. To be precise, vertical rise in this context is measured as inches the fastball DOESN'T fall due to gravity relative to the expected fall. His "induced Vertical Break" (iVB) last season was 18.2 inches, in the 95th percentile of major league pitchers, and well above the average, which is 14.8 inches. So really, his "rise" is just falling 3 1/2 inches less than the average pitcher, or not quite the width of the average bat (which is 2.6 inches or so), which is how you get so many swings and misses, and popups as well.
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Post by azbob643 on Mar 29, 2024 19:09:51 GMT -5
A fastball cannot rise and defy gravity unless it is thrown with significant speed and spin. For a baseball to disrupt air pressure enough to avoid the force of gravity, the ball must be thrown at 123 mph with a spin rate of 3300 rpm. One exception to this rule is for pitchers with a submarine throwing motion, meaning they wind up and release their pitches below their waist, similar to fast-pitch softball. While pitchers with this motion are rare because of the fact that they release the ball so close to the ground, the ball will actually rise on its path to home plate. To be precise, vertical rise in this context is measured as inches the fastball DOESN'T fall due to gravity relative to the expected fall. His "induced Vertical Break" (iVB) last season was 18.2 inches, in the 95th percentile of major league pitchers, and well above the average, which is 14.8 inches. Exactly. So, it doesn't rise, which is physically impossible.
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Post by qwik3457bb on Mar 29, 2024 19:10:33 GMT -5
To be precise, vertical rise in this context is measured as inches the fastball DOESN'T fall due to gravity relative to the expected fall. His "induced Vertical Break" (iVB) last season was 18.2 inches, in the 95th percentile of major league pitchers, and well above the average, which is 14.8 inches. Exactly. So, it doesn't rise, which is physically impossible. I know. I'm using "rise" colloquially, not scientifically.
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Post by qwik3457bb on Mar 29, 2024 19:12:29 GMT -5
As usual, my gamecast is going to be several pitches behind even Gameday, so people watching the normal way might be as much as a batter ahead of me. So the thread will get reactions long before I see the plays.
Edit: I'm at least 3 pitches behind the actual game.
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Post by qwik3457bb on Mar 29, 2024 19:13:42 GMT -5
Torres gets ahead 2-0, then whiffs gets jobbed on a 2-2 slider near the top of the zone about 2-3 inches outside. 1 down. Clearly outside, but called strike 3 anyway.
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Post by qwik3457bb on Mar 29, 2024 19:15:05 GMT -5
Soto falls behind 0-2 on at least one marginal call, then lines a hanging curve to left for a single.
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Post by qwik3457bb on Mar 29, 2024 19:15:45 GMT -5
Javier made a mistake, and Soto broke his bat, but still got a reasonably hard line drive single out of it.
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Post by qwik3457bb on Mar 29, 2024 19:16:23 GMT -5
Judge falls behind 1-2, then chases a change well out of the zone down and in for the K. 2 down.
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Post by qwik3457bb on Mar 29, 2024 19:19:16 GMT -5
Rizzo falls behind 1-2, misses a FB just above middle by fouling it, then chases a change well below the zone, and pops to Bregman at 3rd to end the inning. Bottom 1, 0-0. 17 pitches in the 1st for Javier.
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Post by qwik3457bb on Mar 29, 2024 19:20:13 GMT -5
The amazing thing is not that Rizzo popped up against Javier, but that he popped up on a pitch at least a foot below the knees, and a changeup to boot.
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Post by chiyankee on Mar 29, 2024 19:23:05 GMT -5
As usual, my gamecast is going to be several pitches behind even Gameday, so people watching the normal way might be as much as a batter ahead of me. So the thread will get reactions long before I see the plays. Edit: I'm at least 3 pitches behind the actual game. I'm not getting to watch at all. Stupid AppleTV
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Post by qwik3457bb on Mar 29, 2024 19:23:21 GMT -5
Rays lead the Jays 5-1 in the 5th in Tampa. O's are off tonight. Sox are in Seattle again, after beating the M's 6-4 late last night
Altuve falls behind 1-2, then Rodon throws him a FB... The good news is that he hit 98 on the FB, after not throwing nearly that hard this spring. The bad news is that it was down the middle below the letters, and Altuve hammered it over Verdugo for a leadoff double.
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Post by rizzuto on Mar 29, 2024 19:23:59 GMT -5
Dustin Pedroia or Jose Altuve? Bigger Yankee pest?
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