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Post by JEGnj on Apr 4, 2024 16:49:03 GMT -5
Every team needs a Vet and clubhouse guy. Rizzo is that piece. I love guys who are characters Giambi, Damon, Swish, Wells. Dugo seems like that wild crazy free spirit we need instead of the corporate stiff stuff shirt. I think most wanted DJ to be resigned I just don't think we knew his body would fail and drop off so quick.
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Post by 1955nyyfan on Apr 4, 2024 17:01:22 GMT -5
Dominguez and Jones could be special players for a decade or they could flop. I do feel they will be big pieces in the future but just don't want to bet the ranch on it. Soto was built for Yankee stadium and this team. It's only been 7 games but he is a special player. When they signed Stanton I didn't think we needed him but did thing he would be the piece to put us over the top. I did want Harper also. He went from HOF to .200 hitting DH that can't run. I will never be happy until he is GONE. Andujar had a great bat his rookie year but he was horrible in the field and was not improving. He was a DH with no position on a team full of DHs. I'd love for the Yankees to sign Soto to a long term deal. An outfield of Judge, Jones, Dominguez and Soto could potentially be unbelievable. They could split ABs at DH, all potential middle of the order hitters.
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Post by inger on Apr 4, 2024 17:10:24 GMT -5
I am waiting to see how this plays out. If we lose Soto and Dugo next season and the 2025 OF is Dominguez and Grisham with Stanton as DH. That is an epic fail for Cashman. Everyone is Yankee Universe knows the best thing for this team is to dump Stanton but because of the contract he isn't going anyplace. We just have to deal with it and see another quality player go because of it. There is a possibility Jones figures into the equation sometime next season. Maybe even THIS season…
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Post by inger on Apr 4, 2024 17:11:52 GMT -5
The Yankees are on the hook for about $ 160 M for salaries to Judge, Cole, Rodon, Stanton, Stroman and DJ. A decision to retain Soto and Torres is a decision by Hal to pay the LT "forever". Keeping both and adding in the cost of benefits gets you to the LT for 2025 ($241 M) What we don't know is whether that makes $$$ sense for the Yankees. For all I know the Yankees are profitable with a $300 M payroll or even at $400 M. Years left on contracts: Stanton - 3 years / $32M/$19M/$15M. Stroman - 2 Years / $18.5M/$18M. DJ - 2 years / $15M/$15M. Let’s see… who’s missing from that list. Some guy named Judge, I believe… 🤓
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Post by azbob643 on Apr 4, 2024 17:13:10 GMT -5
Years left on contracts: Stanton - 3 years / $32M/$19M/$15M. Stroman - 2 Years / $18.5M/$18M. DJ - 2 years / $15M/$15M. Let’s see… who’s missing from that list. Some guy named Judge, I believe… 🤓 Of course...just talking about the money that'll be freed up in the next 2-3 years...replaced by very inexpensive home-grown players.
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Post by inger on Apr 4, 2024 17:13:46 GMT -5
Every team needs a Vet and clubhouse guy. Rizzo is that piece. I love guys who are characters Giambi, Damon, Swish, Wells. Dugo seems like that wild crazy free spirit we need instead of the corporate stiff stuff shirt. I think most wanted DJ to be resigned I just don't think we knew his body would fail and drop off so quick. I was more in the let him walk category. Just a bit too old to commit to… once we signed him I rooted for him, but alas… we knew him well…
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Post by qimqam on Apr 4, 2024 17:23:33 GMT -5
Rizzo is a definite let walk candidate ... It's a position that we can fill internally with young talent
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Post by JEGnj on Apr 4, 2024 17:29:12 GMT -5
Rizzo definitely has no long term plans with the Yankees unless he wants coaching. He filled a great role while Judge matured into the Captain role.
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Post by ypaterson on Apr 4, 2024 19:22:58 GMT -5
I am waiting to see how this plays out. If we lose Soto and Dugo next season and the 2025 OF is Dominguez and Grisham with Stanton as DH. That is an epic fail for Cashman. Everyone is Yankee Universe knows the best thing for this team is to dump Stanton but because of the contract he isn't going anyplace. We just have to deal with it and see another quality player go because of it. IMO the season is only a failure if the Yankees do not get to the WS. If Dominguez, Grisham and Jones are the starting outfielders on the '25 Yankees with Judge as the DH and Volpe and Torres in the lineup this team is still better balanced than the '22 roster. This is an "all in" year for the Yankees. Lots of fans wanted Cashman to go for it and he did. It is not how I would have done it...but that doesn't mean it can't be successful.
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Post by ypaterson on Apr 4, 2024 19:34:48 GMT -5
Every team needs a Vet and clubhouse guy. Rizzo is that piece. I love guys who are characters Giambi, Damon, Swish, Wells. Dugo seems like that wild crazy free spirit we need instead of the corporate stiff stuff shirt. I think most wanted DJ to be resigned I just don't think we knew his body would fail and drop off so quick. I was more in the let him walk category. Just a bit too old to commit to… once we signed him I rooted for him, but alas… we knew him well… Soto is going to get a 15 year contract with multiple opt outs. If we live long enough we will curse the last years of the deal. And if he runs into a wall, hits a ball off his leg or suffers some other freak accident we will regret that deal sooner rather than later. That is just the way it is. Cole looks human this year and Judge scared us all last year. That is the gamble of mega deals. I think fans have to adjust their thinking to recognize that payment schedules do not coincide with the useful life of a ballplayer and giant contracts are big risks.
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Post by inger on Apr 4, 2024 19:49:45 GMT -5
I was more in the let him walk category. Just a bit too old to commit to… once we signed him I rooted for him, but alas… we knew him well… Soto is going to get a 15 year contract with multiple opt outs. If we live long enough we will curse the last years of the deal. And if he runs into a wall, hits a ball off his leg or suffers some other freak accident we will regret that deal sooner rather than later. That is just the way it is. Cole looks human this year and Judge scared us all last year. That is the gamble of mega deals. I think fans have to adjust their thinking to recognize that payment schedules do not coincide with the useful life of a ballplayer and giant contracts are big risks. I struggle with the idea of projecting TV contracts and future attendance to continue to be as lucrative as they now are. Fewer kids seem to be as interested as we were as kids. Interests are diversifying. Yet, I doubt that I’m going to see the negatives of those changes during my lifetime. If my spirit is to offer any value to humanity in the future beyond my physical presence on earth I hope it’s to something more important than baseball…
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Post by azbob643 on Apr 4, 2024 19:56:29 GMT -5
What's (whats?) more important than baseball?
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Post by inger on Apr 4, 2024 19:58:59 GMT -5
What's (whats?) more important than baseball? Baseball on the computer screen!…
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Post by laurenfrances on Apr 5, 2024 2:21:16 GMT -5
I was more in the let him walk category. Just a bit too old to commit to… once we signed him I rooted for him, but alas… we knew him well… Soto is going to get a 15 year contract with multiple opt outs. If we live long enough we will curse the last years of the deal. And if he runs into a wall, hits a ball off his leg or suffers some other freak accident we will regret that deal sooner rather than later. That is just the way it is. Cole looks human this year and Judge scared us all last year. That is the gamble of mega deals. I think fans have to adjust their thinking to recognize that payment schedules do not coincide with the useful life of a ballplayer and giant contracts are big risks. As a retiree I can't worry what happens to our Yankees in 15 years. I want to enjoy each year as it comes. I'm not a fan of long contracts. You are actually not getting them at their best. After 7-10 years playing ball toward FA, you are paying uber dollars toward their eventual down slope. Their best days are behind them. Teams-are lucky to get 5-6 good years of a 10 year contract. And now we're talking about a 15 year contract?
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Post by bumper on Apr 5, 2024 5:53:14 GMT -5
Let’s see… who’s missing from that list. Some guy named Judge, I believe… 🤓 Of course...just talking about the money that'll be freed up in the next 2-3 years... replaced by very inexpensive home-grown players.this is key - player development. a 2025 team lead by judge w dominguez & jones in the OF. volpe and wells. maybe guys like arias & rice step up. hampton & warren. if we can do that, then we can sign sotos of the world if that's the direction we wanna go just like we did with the 90's team.
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