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Post by greatfatness on Jul 30, 2018 19:25:56 GMT -5
The only good news about this is that trading Austin makes it very unlikely that Frazier will be traded. Well, there IS one more good thing, which is that Austin is gone. I think he’s already peaked...and Lynn is actually a better pitcher than he’s shown this season. Getting him for Austin was a bargain... As for Warren...we traded him away before and lived to regret it. It’ll happen again...especially since int. bonus money is not going to do a darned thing for our bullpen this late summer/ fall. Warren didn’t really have a role on the team, but he deserved to. I guess Britton has pushed both Shreve and Warren aside? I dunno...Maybe Warren peed in the whirlpool or something. Whenever a deal is predicated on the idea that the guy you’re trading has peaked and isn’t as good as his numbers and the guy you’re trading for is somehow better than his actual performance, that’s pretty sketchy. The Yankees front office isn’t smarter than everyone else. Tyler Austin didn’t have a role on this team. But Adam Warren did. And Lance Lynn was a lousy pitcher on a terrible team. There isn’t a good reason to believe he’ll magically become better just because he’s wearing pinstripes. |
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Post by anthonyd46 on Jul 30, 2018 19:26:45 GMT -5
Isn’t Lynn basically just another happ ?
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Post by greatfatness on Jul 30, 2018 19:27:32 GMT -5
Well, there IS one more good thing, which is that Austin is gone. I think he’s already peaked...and Lynn is actually a better pitcher than he’s shown this season. Getting him for Austin was a bargain... As for Warren...we traded him away before and lived to regret it. It’ll happen again...especially since int. bonus money is not going to do a darned thing for our bullpen this late summer/ fall. Warren didn’t really have a role on the team, but he deserved to. I guess Britton has pushed both Shreve and Warren aside? I dunno...Maybe Warren peed in the whirlpool or something. I think it’s a combination of Holder emerging, acquiring Britton, and then the return of Kahnle I don’t think Kahnle is a part of this equation unless he somehow recovers his fastball velocity. I don’t think he’s a part of the 2018 Yankees pen or the future. |
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Post by greatfatness on Jul 30, 2018 19:28:15 GMT -5
Isn’t Lynn basically just another happ ? Happ is a better pitcher than Lynn. So is Sonny Gray |
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Post by cbpinstripes on Jul 30, 2018 19:31:35 GMT -5
Well, there IS one more good thing, which is that Austin is gone. I think he’s already peaked...and Lynn is actually a better pitcher than he’s shown this season. Getting him for Austin was a bargain... As for Warren...we traded him away before and lived to regret it. It’ll happen again...especially since int. bonus money is not going to do a darned thing for our bullpen this late summer/ fall. Warren didn’t really have a role on the team, but he deserved to. I guess Britton has pushed both Shreve and Warren aside? I dunno...Maybe Warren peed in the whirlpool or something. I think it’s a combination of Holder emerging, acquiring Britton, and then the return of Kahnle I kind of had a feeling he may be close to returning. He's pitching to a 2.66 ERA with 30 k's in 20.1 IP. I think Warren was pretty expendable if Kahle is ready to get called up again. A BP of: Chapman, Betances, Britton, D-rob, Holder, Kahnle, Cole and Green is just fine I would think. Britton should be a significant upgrade to Schreve and if Kahnle is back to 100% I'll take him over Warren. It seems like Cashman is playing for the present and the future. |
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Post by inger on Jul 30, 2018 19:38:57 GMT -5
Well, there IS one more good thing, which is that Austin is gone. I think he’s already peaked...and Lynn is actually a better pitcher than he’s shown this season. Getting him for Austin was a bargain... As for Warren...we traded him away before and lived to regret it. It’ll happen again...especially since int. bonus money is not going to do a darned thing for our bullpen this late summer/ fall. Warren didn’t really have a role on the team, but he deserved to. I guess Britton has pushed both Shreve and Warren aside? I dunno...Maybe Warren peed in the whirlpool or something. Whenever a deal is predicated on the idea that the guy you’re trading has peaked and isn’t as good as his numbers and the guy you’re trading for is somehow better than his actual performance, that’s pretty sketchy. The Yankees front office isn’t smarter than everyone else. Tyler Austin didn’t have a role on this team. But Adam Warren did. And Lance Lynn was a lousy pitcher on a terrible team. There isn’t a good reason to believe he’ll magically become better just because he’s wearing pinstripes. There is iron in your words, greatfatness. But there is also iron in my words that Lynn was much better prior to becoming a Twin that is a ground ball pitcher allowing ground balls to a horrendous infield. Give him a chance with the Yankees infield behind him. I think CC would suck in Minnesota as well. Weak contact guys suffer if the infield sucks...Now, with all of these words of iron exchanged, I fear that our words will rust... |
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Post by chiyankee on Jul 30, 2018 19:48:01 GMT -5
Let's see what happens until the end of tomorrow's deadline, but right now, the Yankees are a worse team than they were this morning.
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Post by anthonyd46 on Jul 30, 2018 20:18:01 GMT -5
Whats with all these international money trades?
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Post by utahyank on Jul 30, 2018 20:26:20 GMT -5
hmmmm…..I hadn't thought of it that way, but you're right.....I wouldn't do a straight trade of Warren for Lynn, and that is what apparently has happened to the roster....the Yankees must be playing for the over-performance of Lynn in NY....could happen....likely we may be disappointed...
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Post by anthonyd46 on Jul 30, 2018 20:30:53 GMT -5
hmmmm…..I hadn't thought of it that way, but you're right.....I wouldn't do a straight trade of Warren for Lynn, and that is what apparently has happened to the roster....the Yankees must be playing for the over-performance of Lynn in NY....could happen....likely we may be disappointed... Yea Shawn Chacon cases are far and few between. |
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Post by michcusejoe5 on Jul 30, 2018 20:34:02 GMT -5
The Lynn trade seems odd to me...Ill admit it kind of has me worried that they think something is wrong with Severino and his recent poor starts. Could they be planning ahead of a stop gap?
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Post by greatfatness on Jul 30, 2018 20:48:09 GMT -5
Whenever a deal is predicated on the idea that the guy you’re trading has peaked and isn’t as good as his numbers and the guy you’re trading for is somehow better than his actual performance, that’s pretty sketchy. The Yankees front office isn’t smarter than everyone else. Tyler Austin didn’t have a role on this team. But Adam Warren did. And Lance Lynn was a lousy pitcher on a terrible team. There isn’t a good reason to believe he’ll magically become better just because he’s wearing pinstripes. There is iron in your words, greatfatness. But there is also iron in my words that Lynn was much better prior to becoming a Twin that is a ground ball pitcher allowing ground balls to a horrendous infield. Give him a chance with the Yankees infield behind him. I think CC would suck in Minnesota as well. Weak contact guys suffer if the infield sucks...Now, with all of these words of iron exchanged, I fear that our words will rust... I hope I am wrong and you’re right on this one. |
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Post by inger on Jul 30, 2018 20:50:16 GMT -5
St the very least the Lynn acquisition seems to be having a polarizing affect on the forum. I’m st one poke and everyone else is at the other.
I don’t see Lynn as a great pitcher, but I do think he’s a capable innings eater that can be a bit CC-like in keeping the team in games...
Could there be a flip planned?
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Post by greatfatness on Jul 30, 2018 20:51:00 GMT -5
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Post by inger on Jul 30, 2018 21:12:30 GMT -5
So perhaps that is the best definition of the Warren trade. He’s a capable pitcher, but he was also surplus goods... when you have surplus. You deal that for something else you want or need...
As for the Lynn acquisition, the question is, will he be better in the rotation than a young pitcher with little to no experience? So, he needs to be able to hold the place that Loiasiga and German failed to settle in to. Without him, we’d be promoting someone from the minors to if yet another prodpect is ready to stick. Apparently the Yankees think they’re not ready. Hence, Lynn... it’s okay, really. Lynn has had a crappy April and July. In between, he was about average in May and did very well in June. If we can get the May/June Lynn back on track, he’ll be a big addition. If not, we’re no worse off than experimenting with rookies...
I’m not sure Cashman is done...
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