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Post by inger on Jul 28, 2019 21:50:13 GMT -5
I’d take Bauer. Maybe he comes cheaper now. Heck, I’d put put Jessica Mendoza in the rotation now if I thought she could win games. (Glad I don’t believe she can)...
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Post by utahyank on Jul 28, 2019 21:50:29 GMT -5
with the latest Trevor Bauer antics, does that change the Cleveland calculus on trading him for some needed talent? do we want his show in the Bronx? I'd still take the moron, but why would Cleveland trade him leading the WC and being only 2 games back of Minnesota in the Central? probably....Tito was really chapped....he followed Bauer into the tunnel to the clubhouse, and likely tore him a new one.....likely it will not change Cleveland's thinking...
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Post by noetsi on Jul 28, 2019 21:52:26 GMT -5
Thankfully he did not hit anyone. That would have been a fun lawsuit
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Post by domeplease on Jul 29, 2019 9:23:03 GMT -5
www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/the-mets-would-be-foolish-to-trade-noah-syndergaard/ar-AAEZxg7?ocid=U147DHP There are two paths the Mets can go down following their surprising trade for the Blue Jays’ Marcus Stroman, and only one of them represents a step forward for a franchise that often looks like it’s running in place. Rumored to be shopping Noah Syndergaard, New York has instead zigged when everyone else expected a zag in acquiring Stroman—on the surface, a go-for-it-now move despite the team’s record (50–55) and playoff position (dead in the division, six out of the second wild-card). But even as fans were reacting to Stroman’s arrival on Twitter, reports surfaced that the Mets are still envisioning a Syndergaard trade, which would be a decidedly backward move in the face of Sunday’s big deal.
The loudest conversation in baseball leading up to Wednesday’s trade deadline has centered on Syndergaard, the imposing righty amid a down year—a 4.33 ERA and 94 ERA+—but possessing some of the best raw stuff of any pitcher in the league.
But despite that and the fact that he’s under team control through 2021, general manager Brodie Van Wagenen and his front office are apparently taking offers on Syndergaard, for reasons that are hard to understand (if they’re even visible). Perhaps this is a case of a team and a player being a poor match for one another, or maybe Van Wagenen thinks the big Texan’s results will never quite match his repertoire or reputation. (That the list of teams most interested in or linked to Syndergaard includes some of the game’s most forward-thinking franchises like the Astros, Yankees and Twins suggests that, if the Mets can’t figure out how to turn his potential into production, maybe the problem lies with them.)
But the most likely reason for the Mets to shop Syndergaard is what he would bring back: a ransom of prospects, more than any other player on the market right now could. (His only competition in that vein is the Indians’ Trevor Bauer, who brings his own unique set of complications to any would-be buyer.)
That stance became all the more understandable the further the Mets slid out of the wild-card race, making it look like the focus for Van Wagenen, after his misguided offseason moves, was to reset and try again with an eye on 2021. The Stroman trade complicates that line of thinking. For starters, to get Stroman, the Mets had to give up a pair of pitching prospects, including their top one, Anthony Kay. Neither Kay nor the second player departing, Simeon Richardson Woods, is a superstar in the making, but they’re still two potential pieces who could have helped down the road and were sacrificed for someone who’s here to produce now. On top of that, Stroman may not be in Queens for long. Next season is his last before he hits free agency, and though the Mets could very well have designs on convincing the Long Island native to stick long-term with his hometown team, the safer bet is to assume he’s there only through 2020.
Regardless of whether Stroman decides to re-up with the Mets past next season, he’s an addition who makes the team better now. That being the case, it doesn’t make much sense to turn around and weaken the team by dealing away Syndergaard, especially since that opens up a hole—rotation depth—that the Stroman trade seeks to close. Not to mention that Stroman is older, more expensive, not as good and closer to free agency, making him a poor one-for-one replacement.
So why move Syndergaard? The strategy—if you can call this inscrutable deadline maneuvering that—is best understood in light of what the Mets have been for the last decade under the ownership of Fred and Jeff Wilpon. This is a team that has long refused to spend or maintain the kind of payroll you would expect (if not demand) of a franchise in one of the biggest media markets in the entire world.
The goal—or at least the reality—isn’t to win no matter the cost; it’s to compete within the narrow boundaries of what the team chooses to afford. The Wilpons want a contender, but they don’t want to pay that price. They want to be the Yankees on the Marlins’ budget—and that’s where trading Syndergaard comes into play.
There’s no argument to be made, barring a ludicrously huge return, that dealing Syndergaard improves the Mets’ roster or their chance at a World Series title this season or next (or in ’21). But the major league-ready prospects New York would get back for him will cost far less per season than he will (and be better than the ones just traded away). And with Stroman now in place to soak up the innings lost by trading him, the team is somewhat more cost efficient while still nominally a contender. READ MORE...
www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/marcus-stroman-trade-grades-mets-take-leap-of-faith-blue-jays-make-good-in-reported-deal/ar-AAEZRyl?ocid=U147DHP With the news that Van Wagenen reportedly shipped top Mets prospects Anthony Kay and Simeon Woods-Richardson to Toronto for Marcus Stroman, some are left scratching their heads and asking one question: Why?
Hindsight is 20/20, so it's unfair to to really rag on BVW for the moves he made this offseason. But after trading top prospects to acquire Edwin Díaz and Robinson Canó, fans' faith in BVW is going to be put to the test. The Mets reportedly trading for Marcus Stroman is another one of those "Huh?" moves for the guys from Flushing. If it doesn't work out, the Mets just mortgaged more of their future for a win-now (or soon) move.
On the other side, the Jays finally pulled the trigger on a Stroman deal, replenishing a farm system with a few high-upside arms that they desperately needed.
Report cards! READ MORE...
www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/indians-get-rhp-wood-inf-arroyo-from-rays/ar-AAF03gT?ocid=U147DHP The Rays got minor league outfielder Ruben Cardenas and international slot money from Cleveland on Sunday. Tampa Bay made three trades during the day, getting veteran utilityman Eric Sogard from Toronto and sending pitcher Ian Gibaut to Texas.
Wood, a 25-year-old right-hander, was 1-1 with a 2.48 ERA in 19 games - two of them starts - in five stints for Tampa Bay this season. In parts of three years with the Rays, he was 2-2 with a 3.20 ERA in 49 games.
The 24-year-old Arroyo is on the 60-day injured list with right forearm tendinitis. He hit .220 with two home runs and seven RBIs in 10 games for the Rays this year.
The 21-year-old Cardenas was batting .284 with 10 home runs and 54 RBIs in 84 games at Class A Lake County.
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Post by noetsi on Jul 29, 2019 13:43:43 GMT -5
Dome just paste the link in...
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Post by chiyankee on Jul 29, 2019 16:03:06 GMT -5
Mr. Personality, Jason Vargas is heading to the Phillies.
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Post by utahyank on Jul 29, 2019 16:53:22 GMT -5
Mr. Personality, Jason Vargas is heading to the Phillies. the Mets front office seems inconsistent....one might think the Phillies are more rivals than the Yankees....perhaps they think they are weakening the Phillies by trading them Vargas……….. I read that Stroman was upset and had to gather himself to say the right things when he found out his trade to NY was to the Mets....funny...
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Post by noetsi on Jul 29, 2019 17:28:40 GMT -5
He hoped to go to a good team and be in the play offs. I can understand that.
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Post by chiyankee on Jul 29, 2019 19:51:25 GMT -5
He hoped to go to a good team and be in the play offs. I can understand that. He also made no secrete that the Yankees were his first choice to be traded to among all teams. Cashman probably could have landed him, if he was willing to give up Garcia.
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Post by noetsi on Jul 29, 2019 20:00:06 GMT -5
I would like to trade Andujar and Frazier but I guess they don't see a market for them. I guess teams won't take a chance with someone on the IL even an elite hitter.
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Post by greatfatness on Jul 29, 2019 20:11:05 GMT -5
He hoped to go to a good team and be in the play offs. I can understand that. He also made no secrete that the Yankees were his first choice to be traded to among all teams. Cashman probably could have landed him, if he was willing to give up Garcia. I am not sure exactly what we have in Garcia, but I am glad Cashman said no to this.
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Post by chiyankee on Jul 29, 2019 20:13:30 GMT -5
He also made no secrete that the Yankees were his first choice to be traded to among all teams. Cashman probably could have landed him, if he was willing to give up Garcia. I am not sure exactly what we have in Garcia, but I am glad Cashman said no to this. If he was a couple inches taller and 25 pounds heavier, he'd be a much higher ranked prospect.
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Post by noetsi on Jul 29, 2019 20:24:03 GMT -5
We have to decide on whether we want to go to the WS this year or wait till next year I think. I don't think this group of starters will get use there. Of course we may want to wait till next year to save prospects.
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Post by geo on Jul 29, 2019 22:18:29 GMT -5
Sometimes you're better off sticking with the hand that you get dealt. Last year the Pirates feeling the urge to become playoff contenders put what they thought was their best foot forward. That foot is now amputated. They acquired a beat up starter and traded 3 top quality players to Tampa Bay. Austin Meadows is probably their best offensive weapon, and if Glasnow didn't get hurt we'd probably be looking up at Tampa Bay right now. Not only that, Tampa also gacquired the 12th overall pick in the 2017 draft, another quality pitcher.
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Post by kaybli on Jul 29, 2019 22:53:32 GMT -5
Sometimes you're better off sticking with the hand that you get dealt. Last year the Pirates feeling the urge to become playoff contenders put what they thought was their best foot forward. That foot is now amputated. They acquired a beat up starter and traded 3 top quality players to Tampa Bay. Austin Meadows is probably their best offensive weapon, and if Glasnow didn't get hurt we'd probably be looking up at Tampa Bay right now. Not only that, Tampa also gacquired the 12th overall pick in the 2017 draft, another quality pitcher. Thanks for helping our rivals, Pirates.
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