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Post by kaybli on Oct 18, 2024 16:47:11 GMT -5
Champions get tested. Let’s bounce back and show everyone who we are.
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Post by kaybli on Oct 18, 2024 16:52:22 GMT -5
Let's go Gil! Let's go Yankees!
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Post by JEGnj on Oct 18, 2024 17:13:33 GMT -5
I'm ready. Warming up watching the Met's game but very anxious for the Yankee game.
Hope they come out swinging and ready to ball.
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Post by JEGnj on Oct 18, 2024 17:17:02 GMT -5
I see Chisholm batting cleanup. Hoping his bat wakes up but he has been ice cold.
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Post by chiyankee on Oct 18, 2024 17:41:29 GMT -5
Let's see what the Yankees got after a major gut punch yesterday.
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Post by qwik3457bb on Oct 18, 2024 17:42:33 GMT -5
I see Chisholm batting cleanup. Hoping his bat wakes up but he has been ice cold. They have Stanton behind him, which might help him see some better pitches. I hope. |
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Post by qwik3457bb on Oct 18, 2024 17:42:56 GMT -5
Down 2-1 in the ALCS, the Guardians will try to tie things up at 2 games apiece by sending hard-throwing right-handed rookie Gavin Williams to the mound in Cleveland. Williams started against the Yanks at the Stadium in late August, displaying impressive stuff, but ragged command of it. His baseball background was covered in that game thread, so repeating that material is not necessary. Since that game, Williams made 6 starts, and pitched pretty well in them, without much success: 1-4, 28 2/3 innings, 22 hits, 14 runs (earned), just 2 HR, 13 BB with 27 K’s. One of those six starts was a disaster against the Dodgers in which he faced just 7 batters; 2 got hits, 3 were walked, and all 5 scored, the last one on a HR by Andy Pages given up by Avila, who came in to relieve him with 2 outs in the first. Take out that start, and he’s been pretty good in the other 5: still 1-3, but with a 2.89 ERA, 28 innings, 20 hits, 9 runs (earned), 10 BB and 27 K’s, WHIP of 1.071. On the season, Williams was 3-10 in 16 starts with an ERA of 4.86. In 76 innings, he allowed 72 hits, 42 runs, 41 earned, 7 HR, and 32 BB with 79 K’s. His WHIP on the season was a subpar 1.368.
The game Williams started against the Yanks at the Stadium is the only time he’s faced them. He shut them down cold for 3 innings, giving up just a leadoff single to Torres, then retiring 10 in a row, striking out 5 of them, including Soto, Stanton and Torres in his 2nd at bat. After Soto started the 4th by grounding out, Judge broke through on Williams, hitting a solo HR just fair down the right field line on a hanging change. That HR unnerved him, because after the HR, the Yanks loaded the bases on two walks a single, before Williams escaped by getting Cabrera to popup with 2 down. In the 5th, Williams walked two more before getting Soto to ground into a force, and that was it; Vogt pulled him from the game at 98 pitches with one out and runners at 1st and 3rd. Nick Sandlin came in and gave Judge an intentional walk, then Wells hit a sac fly to make it 2-0, and Stanton completed Williams’ game record by crushing a 3-run HR that broke it open. Rice added a sac fly in the 8th to make the final scored 6-0. Williams line for the day 4 1/3 innings, 4 hits 3 earned runs, 1 HR, 4 BB and 5 K’s, taking the loss. His ERA against the Yankees is 6.23, and the WHIP is 1.845. It’s just one game and 20 batters, but the Yankees’ team quadruple slash line against him is .250/.400/.438/.838. Williams has never pitched in the post-season before, and hasn’t pitched in any game since September 22.
Repertoire: Williams throws 5 pitches: 4-seamer, curve, cutter, slider and change. He relies heavily on the FB, throwing it more than half the time. The FB gets below average rise, but fairly extreme run, (top 10% in MLB). The curve gets elite drop (again, top 10%), and above average break into lefties (more than half his curves have been thrown to lefties). The cutter gets well below average drop, and below after break glove-side. The slider gets way below average drop (bottom 10%) and below average break away from righties. He uses the change very little, but almost exclusively against lefties, and it gets well below average drop and only slightly above average tail against lefties. In run values, none of his pitches are outstanding. The slider and 4-seamer are neutral, the curve is a small minus, the cutter is a slightly bigger plus. The change has a high minus value per pitch, which is why he uses it the least of his five pitches. The FB velocity is near elite (88th percentile), the FB spin is above average, but the curve spin is well below average. His extension is elite (top 5% in MLB), but his chase rate is merely average. His average exit velocity is a bit above average, the barrel rate is a hair below average, the hard-hit rate is well above average. His line drive rate is above average, as is his flyball rate and so is the popup rate. The groundball rate is below average. His swinging and called strike rates are both somewhat below average, and so his CSW is below average as well. In luck factors, his BABP is about 25 pts above average, the strand rate is quite low but the HR/FB rate is also very low. The luck factors have worked against him overall, and his ERA estimators say his ERA should be 3.97, not 4.86. Williams probably has a very good future is his arm stays attached, but he’s not there yet. The pitch mix so far this season: 4-seamer averaging 96-7 about 52% of the time, curve 79-80 about 20%, cuter 91-2 about 12%, slider 88-9 about 11%, and change 89 about 5%. I would expect adrenaline to have his 4-seam velocity in the upper 90’s-near 100 in the first 2-3 innings. If he can give the Guardians 2-4 good innings to start with, Vogt might take that an run with it with his deep and very talented relievers.
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Post by chiyankee on Oct 18, 2024 17:44:17 GMT -5
I see Chisholm batting cleanup. Hoping his bat wakes up but he has been ice cold. They have Stanton behind him, which might help him see some better pitches. I hope. |
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Post by qwik3457bb on Oct 18, 2024 17:48:23 GMT -5
Playing the Name Game: the name game for that start in August is here
Name Game for Gavin Williams from August
None of the 7 Gavins who’ve played in the majors, have ever played for the Yanks, so let’s look at Williams’ instead. Most fans on this board are big enough fans to know a great deal about Ted Williams, and Bernie Williams (the Younger). So instead, I’ll put a brief spotlight on two other Williams I’ve heard something about in my years of being a fan of the Yanks.
Outfielder Bernard Williams (Bernie the Elder) had a brief 4-year career with the Giants and Padres in the early 1970s. He had a mediocre 4-year minor league career in the Giants’ farm system before they called him up to be a backup outfielder for them. At the major league level, he wasn’t particularly good at anything. He couldn’t hit, he didn’t steal many bases and the primitive defensive metrics say he wasn’t a good fielder either. In all, he played in 100+ major league games, just under 200 PA, a lifetime BAVG of .182, 4 career HR and 2 career steals. The four home runs were all off of good-to-excellent name-brand pitchers: Fred Norman, Tommy John, Steve Renko and Al Downing. The highlight of Bernie I’s career was being a small part of the 1971 Giants team that won the NL West, before getting knocked off in the NLCS by the Murtaugh-Stargell-Clemente Pirates, who went on to beat the Orioles for the title. Bernie didn’t make the post-season roster. He was a small piece of the trade of Willie McCovey to the Padres, going to San Diego in exchange for pitcher Mike Caldwell, who later tormented the Yankees for the Brewers in the mid-to-late 70s. After his MLB career was over, he traveled to Japan to play NPB for the Hankyu Braves, and had much more success. In 6 seasons for Hankyu, he hit .258 with 96 HRs and nearly 300 RBI, peaking with 21 HR in his last season in 1980. At age 76, he’s listed as still alive at Wikipedia.
The only reason I remember the first Bernie Williams was that he was in the very first set of additional APBA cards for the “Master” game (first released in 1975) when I was a teenager, in the extra sheet of 6 perforated cards for the 1974 Padres. (The regular game had 20 players for each team; the 6 extra cards on perforated sheets for the Master game had to be purchased separately and gave each team a much more nearly complete roster.) When our Bernie came up, I remembered that he had a predecessor with the same name, so I chose him today for the Name Game.
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Outfielder Walter “No-Neck” Williams played most of his career with the White Sox, but spent the last 2 of his 10 years in the majors with the Yankees. He was a very small slap-hitter type at the plate. Listed at 5 feet, 6 inches tall, he might have been shorter than that. According to Wikipedia:
“Williams was nicknamed No-Neck due to his relatively short stature
(5 feet 6 inches) combined with a muscular, compact torso and a short
neck. His odd physical appearance was the result of a typhus injection
he received as a baby. After Williams' hometown was hit by a flood, the
government gave typhus injections to prevent the spread of the disease.
Williams was so muscular even as a baby that medical personnel were
unable to reach a vein, except in the back of his neck. He developed
a crick in his neck, which then stiffened and shrank.
Williams gained popularity as many small players do because of his size and his hustling play. Never a great hitter or even an everyday regular for long, he had just one season of over 130 games and 500 PA, 1969, his best season for BAVG (.304, 6th in the AL that year) and bWAR (1.5). Williams came up from the Astros system in 1964, had a cup of coffee with them, and was sent back to the minors. The Cards selected him off waivers when the Astros sent him down, and held him in their farm for two-plus seasons, finally trading him as part of the three-player package to the White Sox for Catcher John Romano. The bulk of his career, 7 seasons, was spent with Chicago where had a modest amount of success.
At the end of the 1972 season, the White Sox traded him to Cleveland for infielder Eddie Leon. Williams had a solid season with the Indians, batting .289 and tying his career high with 8 HR, setting career highs with 38 RBI and 9 steals. In March of 1974, he was traded to the Yankees as part of a three-way deal, and Baseball Reference lays out the trade in detail:
Traded by the Cleveland Indians with Rick Sawyer to the New York
Yankees. The New York Yankees sent Jerry Moses to the Detroit
Tigers. The Detroit Tigers sent Ed Farmer to the New York Yankees.
The Detroit Tigers sent Jim Perry to the Cleveland Indians.
In 1974, he was with the Yanks the whole season as they made their run at a division title, losing out the last weekend of the season by 2 games to the Orioles, but Bill Virdon couldn’t come up with a way to use him; Williams played just 43 games, starting just 6 of them, and hit .113 in just 43 at bats. In 1975, the Yanks lost centerfield Elliott Maddux to some injuries and Lou Piniella followed up his terrific 1974 season with an abysmal year in which he hit just .196, so Williams was able to play more, and he played fairly well. In 34 starts in the OF and at DH, and exactly 200 PA, Williams batted .281 with 5 HR and a .400 slugging percentage; he even played some second base for the first time in his career. It was his last season in the majors.
After leaving MLB, had two good seasons for the Nippon Ham Fighters of NFB, batting .281 with 23 HR and 57 RBI in 1976, and .269 with 21 HR and 65 RBI in 1977. He played in Mexico in 1978 and 1979. In 1988, he served as White Sox 1st base coach, and after one season playing for St. Lucie in the Senior Professional Baseball Association, then retired from playing again. He managed Gastonia in the Sally League in 1992, then managed Charleston in the Carolina League in 1993 and 1994. His last baseball job was managing Altoona in the independent Heartland League in 1997. Not much about his life after that is easy to track down. Williams died of a heart attack at the age of 72 in January, 2016.
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Post by qwik3457bb on Oct 18, 2024 17:53:45 GMT -5
Luis Gil goes to the mound for the first time in almost 3 weeks, trying to pitch the Yanks into a commanding position. Gil was unstoppable in his first 12 starts this season, going 8-1 with a 1.82 ERA. The rest of his season was a bumpy ride, including a stay on the IL with a back strain. He had some runs of good games after that, but it was mostly downhill starting from early June. In his last 17 starts, Gil was 7-6 with a 4.92 ERA. The Yanks need better than that from him tonight. On the season, he was 15-7 in 29 starts with an ERA of 3.50. In 151 2/3 innings, he allowed just 104 hits, 60 runs, 59 earned and 18 HR, but also led all of MLB with 77 walked allowed, and he struck out 171. In spite of all the walks, his WHIP was still solid, 1.193.
This is Gil’s 3rd start against Cleveland, and the other two did not go well. He went 4 1/3 innings against them in his last start in 2021, going 4 1/3 innings, giving up 3 hits, 3 runs, 2 earned, 1 HR, 4 BB and struck 6 in a game the Yanks got routed, 11-3. In his 2nd start against them at the Stadium in August, he simply had no command of anything, and lasted just 3 innings, giving up 3 hits, 3 earned runs, walking 6, striking out 3 and allowing another HR. The Yanks eventually lost that one, 9-5, when the Guardians exploded for 6 runs in the 10th of Mayza and Michael Tonkin.
Both HRs that the Guardians have hit of Gil have come from light-hitting infielders: Yu Chang in 2021 and Bryan Rocchio this year. Some quick addition will tell you that Gil is 0-1 in two starts vs. Cleveland, and that in 7 1/3 innings, he’s allowed 6 hits, 6 earned runs, 2 HR, 10 BB and struck out 9. His ERA against the Guardians is 7.36, his WHIP against them is a horrible 2.182, and their team quadruple slash line against Gil is .207/.425/.483/.908. As with his overall pitching down the stretch, the Yanks need much better from Gil tonight against Cleveland.
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Post by qwik3457bb on Oct 18, 2024 17:56:32 GMT -5
Yankees' lineup vs. Boyd:
1. Torres (2B) is 1-2 with 1 BB and 1 K
2. Soto (RF) is 0-3 with 1 K
3. Judge (CF) is 1-2 with a solo HR
4. Chisholm (3B) has never faced Williams
5. Stanton (DH) is 0-1 with 1 BB and 1 K
6. Rizzo (1B) has never faced Williams
7. Volpe (SS) is 0-1 with 1 BB and 1 K
8. Wells (C) is 1-2 with 1 K
9. Verdugo (LF) is 0-2
On the bench: Cabrera is 1-2; Rice is 0-1 with a BB and 1 GIDP
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Guardians lineup vs. Schmidt:
1. Kwan (LF) walked all three times he faced Gil in August
2. Manzardo (DH) has never faced Gil
3. Ramirez (3B) is 0-3 with 2 BB and 2 K
4. J. Naylor (1B) is 0-2
5. Thomas (CF) has never faced Gil
6. Schneeman (RF) is 1-2 with 1 RBI
7. Gimenez (2B) is 1-2 with 2 BB and 1 K
8. Hedges (C) is 0-2 with a K
9. Rocchio (SS) is 1-2 with a solo HR
On the Bench: B. Naylor is 0-2 with 1 RBI and 1 K; Brennan is 0-2; Noel is 1-2 with 1 double and 1 BB.
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Post by qwik3457bb on Oct 18, 2024 17:57:29 GMT -5
In other playoff action yesterday:
The Dodgers continued to pummel the Mets, winning another one-sided rout, 10-2. Ohtani led off the game by hitting the first HR of Quintana in over 47 innings, but Mark Vientos tied it in the bottom on a solo HR of his own. The Dodgers took a 3-1 lead in the 3rd on RBI hits from Edman and Kike Hernandez, who continue to do regular damage from the bottom half of the Dodgers’ batting order. The Mets got one of those back on a RBI grounder by Nimmo, but that’s all they would get for the night. The Dodgers gradually pulled away, getting 2 in the 3rd, 4th and 6th, Betts' 2-run HR in the 6th basically putting the game away at 7-2. The Dodgers poured it on in the 8th on 2-run double by Edman and a RBI single by Smith for the final score, taking a 3-1 lead in the series. Yamamoto lasted just 4 1/3 innings and allowed 2 runs, but with the Dodgers’ deep, talented group of relievers, that was all they needed. Evan Phillips got 4 outs in relief of Yamamoto and got the win; he’s now 2-0 in the playoffs. Quintana was knocked out in the 4th having allowed 5 hits, 4 BB and 5 earned runs in 3 1/3 innings, taking the loss and falling to 0-1 in the postseason.
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Post by qwik3457bb on Oct 18, 2024 18:00:01 GMT -5
But the Mets are coming off the canvas again today at Citifield, destroying Jack Flaherty, who hammered them in game 1 with 7 innings of 2-hit shutout ball. They got Flaherty for 8 earned runs in the first three innings, 3 in the first on a 3-run HR by Alonso, and 5 more in the 3rd on a 2-run double by Starling Marte, an RBI single by the struggling Francisco Alvarez, an RBI triple by Everyday Hero Lindor, and a RBI single by Nimmo to take an 8-1 lead. The Dodgers got that run in the 2nd on a WP by Mets starter Peterson. The Dodgers aren’t finished yet, staging an uprising on Peterson in the 4th and knocking him out with 2 outs and nobody on. Pages hit a solo HR to make it 8-2, and Ohtani singled. Peterson ran out of gas, walking both Betts and Teoscar Hernandez, and facing elimination, manager Mendoza pulled Peterson for Reid Garret, who the Dodgers got to in game 3 in relief of Severino, breaking that one open. After a 7 pitch battle, Garrett hit the back door with a slider for a ꓘ against Freddie Freeman to get out of the jam and leave the Mets still in command of this one, at least for now. The Mets tacked on two more in the bottom of the 4th off long-man/slag-arm Brent Honeywell on a RBI triple by Winker and a sac fly by McNeil to the track in right center, and lead 10-2, top 5. Edit: and now Pages hits his 2nd HR of the game, a 3-run shot with 2 outs in the 5th, and it's now 10-5 Mets, and this one ain't over.
And, at 8:08 at Progressive Field, it’s Gil vs. Williams. See you then.
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Post by bumper on Oct 18, 2024 18:01:01 GMT -5
They have Stanton behind him, which might help him see some better pitches. I hope. damn sarah langs  . just jinxed him . actually love sarah. |
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Post by bumper on Oct 18, 2024 18:03:05 GMT -5
yes the mets have a pulse. while i never call anything, hopefully this series heads back to LA.
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