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Post by chiyankee on Nov 2, 2024 12:35:45 GMT -5
We'll know by Monday what the Yanks do with Cole. Correction, the Yankees have to decide by tomorrow night.
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Post by inger on Nov 2, 2024 12:39:09 GMT -5
We'll know by Monday what the Yanks do with Cole. Correction, the Yankees have to decide by tomorrow night. Even better… get it done…
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Post by kaybli on Nov 2, 2024 12:40:35 GMT -5
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Post by stu on Nov 2, 2024 12:48:51 GMT -5
I like Snell because he has a habit of being white hot in the second half of the season. I wish they would have tried to trade for him this year at the deadline. He does have a tendency to miss a few starts every year during the regular season, but he hasn't lost a step. He's still a dominant strikeout machine once he gets in to a groove. Flaherty is more dicey. He doesn't have the track record the others do. But he's the youngest of the bunch, and might take the cheapest and shortest contract to sign due to the shorter track record. They almost traded for him, so they like him. But then again they supposedly backed out over concerns from his physical. I think if they keep Cole and lose Soto they should try to lengthen the lineup as the top priority. Barring any trades, they'd still be bringing back Cole, Rodon, Gil, Schmidt, Nestor and Stroman. I would want an OF with some pop who could let Judge move back to RF, so maybe Santander. Let Dominguez play CF. And someone to fill the offensive void at 1b - maybe Walker. You could probably get Santander and Walker combined for less than what Soto will get annually. If they could manage to move Stroman somehow then I would think they could go for another SP as well. Even the second tier of FAs has some interesting arms like Manea, Kikuchi (especially if his Astro incarnation was for real), Buehler, Boyd, even Eovaldi if he opts out. Lots of choices out there that I'd take over Stro. If we keep Soto, much of your wish list will be scrapped. Santander is a RF lacking the range to play LF in Yankee Stadium. I like him, but not enough to force Judge back to CF… I'd happily lose out on Santander if Soto were to stay. There's really no replacing what he can do as a hitter with any of the other FAs. I would probably use Soto in RF, Dominguez in CF and Judge in LF. Walker is probably out $$ wise if you add Soto $$, so you'd have to be more creative to get a 1b, perhaps look in to the trade market. And while I know people will groan at this thought, I seriously doubt the Yankees will cut DJLM, at least not yet. He's going to get another chance to try and get healthy and show something before they will give him the axe. Worst case would be going in to 2025 with Rice/DJLM/Oswaldo at 1b, and that would sting, but very well could happen. I do still think you could sign a SP, but only if they can first move Stroman and his salary. Or maybe they move Stroman, trade for a cheaper pitcher, and sign Walker. But I am in the keep Soto camp, I loved the Soto/Judge combination.
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Post by bomberhojoe on Nov 2, 2024 12:50:53 GMT -5
For me Cole is a no brainer. Add the year, he's an ace. Soto is a more difficult decision. He is great and young, but for the same money they could get a good outfielder, infielder, reliever and starter.
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Post by chiyankee on Nov 2, 2024 13:03:25 GMT -5
Seems like an easy choice. We already know Cole can handle NY. Snell has only thrown over 130 innings twice in his career and Burnes really isn't an upgrade over Cole.
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Post by fwclipper51 on Nov 2, 2024 14:46:27 GMT -5
Good news. Luke Weaver is coming back for 2025
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Post by inger on Nov 2, 2024 16:08:09 GMT -5
Good news. Luke Weaver is coming back for 2025 We should still get a real closer. Weaver might have been a one year wonder. Let him set up…
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Post by ypaterson on Nov 2, 2024 16:30:20 GMT -5
For me Cole is a no brainer. Add the year, he's an ace. Soto is a more difficult decision. He is great and young, but for the same money they could get a good outfielder, infielder, reliever and starter. Ab ACE doesn't leave after 88 pitches or forget to cover 1st. No hard feelings, time to move on.
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Post by inger on Nov 2, 2024 17:59:56 GMT -5
For me Cole is a no brainer. Add the year, he's an ace. Soto is a more difficult decision. He is great and young, but for the same money they could get a good outfielder, infielder, reliever and starter. Ab ACE doesn't leave after 88 pitches or forget to cover 1st. No hard feelings, time to move on. Not a bad way to look at it, but I see more value here than I saw in Soto. I believe Cole when he says Betts was going to beat him to the bag, and I somewhat forgive the short outing because of his limited pitching last season…at least he was honest with Boone about being gassed…
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Post by bumper on Nov 2, 2024 21:48:58 GMT -5
Good news. Luke Weaver is coming back for 2025 We should still get a real closer. Weaver might have been a one year wonder. Let him set up… feel the same way. he did suddenly find "something" but he was a guy who was dfa'd twice when we picked up in 2023. never had any real success and after a month of closing, suddenly he's our closer next season. let him set up.
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Post by cocopugg on Nov 3, 2024 1:41:53 GMT -5
Ab ACE doesn't leave after 88 pitches or forget to cover 1st. No hard feelings, time to move on. Not a bad way to look at it, but I see more value here than I saw in Soto. I believe Cole when he says Betts was going to beat him to the bag, and I somewhat forgive the short outing because of his limited pitching last season…at least he was honest with Boone about being gassed… I honestly hope the Yankees tell Cole not to let the door slam him on his way out. Thanks for 2024. Sorry, but a 34 yr old starter with arm problems to begin the year with, getting more greedy than anyone should get (considering the contract he already had with the team) is NOT more valuable than a future Hall of Famer (at 26) whose best years are still ahead of him. The money the Yankees will save if Cole doesn't come back can easily go towards signing Soto, PLUS filling in several holes the Yankees could then afford to plug with good players, instead of the usual Cashman dumpster dives.
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Post by bigjeep on Nov 3, 2024 6:21:26 GMT -5
Its never enough money!
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Post by chiyankee on Nov 3, 2024 7:50:24 GMT -5
We should still get a real closer. Weaver might have been a one year wonder. Let him set up… feel the same way. he did suddenly find "something" but he was a guy who was dfa'd twice when we picked up in 2023. never had any real success and after a month of closing, suddenly he's our closer next season. let him set up. one difference for Weaver is that for most of his career he was used as a starter before coming to the Yankees. He wasn't good, but maybe the change of to bullpen, not worrying about facing the same hitters more than once, was what he needed?
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Post by Lola on Nov 3, 2024 8:11:52 GMT -5
For me Cole is a no brainer. Add the year, he's an ace. Soto is a more difficult decision. He is great and young, but for the same money they could get a good outfielder, infielder, reliever and starter. Ab ACE doesn't leave after 88 pitches or forget to cover 1st. No hard feelings, time to move on. I concur… Cole had redeemed himself in game 5 until he forgot to cover 1st! It’s an elimination game in the WS…you have to do everything , even the basics!
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