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Post by qimqam on Nov 4, 2024 8:28:13 GMT -5
Alex Cora yells at his players ... he has a WS win as a manger, bench coach and player Intesity is important in sports ... That's been a huge problem for the Yankees for years now Actually Boone is probably the most intense emotional guy on the team ... he just needs to direct some of his fury at the players instead of the Umps DJL - Passive Rizzo - Passive Cole - Passive Stanton - Passive Judge - Very Passive Gleyber - Very Very Passive Volpe - Very Very Very Passive Soto, Verdugo, and somewhat Jazz brought some intesity to the team this year and ...what do you know ... first WS in 15 years I'm guessing all managers get on players throughout the season behind closed doors. No manager worth his salt screams at players in public. DJL - very good career Rizzo - very good career and team leader Cole - HOFer, great playoff numbers Stanton- great career, border line HOFer, great playoff numbers Judge, great career, maybe a HOFer Volpe - very young Soto - maybe the best hitter in baseball, clutch and about to become one of the richest Is your point that these guys would be better if they weren't so "passive". BTW, how do you define that? Throwing helmets, kicking coolers? My point is it took a couple of players with passion and attitude to take a previously emotionless group of players to the next level .... |
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Post by inger on Nov 4, 2024 10:40:53 GMT -5
I'm guessing all managers get on players throughout the season behind closed doors. No manager worth his salt screams at players in public. DJL - very good career Rizzo - very good career and team leader Cole - HOFer, great playoff numbers Stanton- great career, border line HOFer, great playoff numbers Judge, great career, maybe a HOFer Volpe - very young Soto - maybe the best hitter in baseball, clutch and about to become one of the richest Is your point that these guys would be better if they weren't so "passive". BTW, how do you define that? Throwing helmets, kicking coolers? My point is it took a couple of players with passion and attitude to take a previously emotionless group of players to the next level .... If you think that made a difference. I doubt it did. But then I again it could be me that’s wrong. (Passive-aggressive viewpoint)… |
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Post by inger on Nov 4, 2024 10:44:00 GMT -5
Should we dig Billy Martin up? Maybe Earl Weaver? Those guys were great when players were chattel…Now they can cry to the Union, demand trades, launch lawsuits. Todays player has the new “feelings” that society says they have a right to…
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Post by chiyankee on Nov 4, 2024 10:51:37 GMT -5
Should we dig Billy Martin up? Maybe Earl Weaver? Those guys were great when players were chattel…Now they can cry to the Union, demand trades, launch lawsuits. Todays player has the new “feelings” that society says they have a right to… Today's players also wanted to be treated with respect, the same as anyone else. People with quick tempers and lack of self-control, like Martin make poor managers, because the fail at the most important part of the job, actually managing people. |
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Post by Max on Nov 4, 2024 13:33:50 GMT -5
Tom Landry was a great coach. When they would show him on TV I couldn't tell if his team was losing by 3 touchdowns or winning by 3 touchdowns.
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Post by cocopugg on Nov 4, 2024 13:48:47 GMT -5
Alex Cora yells at his players ... he has a WS win as a manger, bench coach and player Intesity is important in sports ... That's been a huge problem for the Yankees for years now Actually Boone is probably the most intense emotional guy on the team ... he just needs to direct some of his fury at the players instead of the Umps DJL - Passive Rizzo - Passive Cole - Passive Stanton - Passive Judge - Very Passive Gleyber - Very Very Passive Volpe - Very Very Very Passive Soto, Verdugo, and somewhat Jazz brought some intesity to the team this year and ...what do you know ... first WS in 15 years No manager worth his salt screams at players in public. Oh I don't know about that, Billy Martin was known to be pretty salty, and he did bring 3 pennants and he 2 rings back to the Bronx! And Bud Harrelson squared off with Coney when he was Met!
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Post by chiyankee on Nov 4, 2024 14:05:57 GMT -5
No manager worth his salt screams at players in public. Oh I don't know about that, Billy Martin was known to be pretty salty, and he did bring 3 pennants and he 2 rings back to the Bronx! And Bud Harrelson squared off with Coney when he was Met!
1 World Series, the 78 season was going down the tubes until the Yanks made a managerial change. |
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Post by 1955nyyfan on Nov 4, 2024 14:08:08 GMT -5
No manager worth his salt screams at players in public. Oh I don't know about that, Billy Martin was known to be pretty salty, and he did bring 3 pennants and he 2 rings back to the Bronx! And Bud Harrelson squared off with Coney when he was Met!
Times change, that was over 30 years ago and Martin was overrated. |
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Post by qimqam on Nov 4, 2024 14:25:28 GMT -5
Tom Landry was a great coach. When they would show him on TV I couldn't tell if his team was losing by 3 touchdowns or winning by 3 touchdowns. So was Parcells, Bellichick, Andy Reid www.youtube.com/watch?v=9c7l2QrnVxkTom Landry, the legendary coach of the Dallas Cowboys, had a stern demeanor and was known for not always reassuring players of their abilities, which led some to leave the team
Perfect example of passive agressive behavior. |
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Post by cocopugg on Nov 4, 2024 14:25:41 GMT -5
Oh I don't know about that, Billy Martin was known to be pretty salty, and he did bring 3 pennants and he 2 rings back to the Bronx! And Bud Harrelson squared off with Coney when he was Met!
1 World Series, the 78 season was going down the tubes until the Yanks made a managerial change. How did 1980 and 1981 workout without Billy Martin? |
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Post by Cult of Ken Clay on Nov 4, 2024 14:31:14 GMT -5
Letting Howser go was one of George's biggest flubs.
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Post by yankeesfaninboston on Nov 4, 2024 14:37:59 GMT -5
So like the name says, I'm in the Boston area. I like all the other Boston teams, but became a Yankees fans because Bernie Williams was my favorite player.
So the point with the Boston thing is seeing Belichick for so many years. He was rarely emotional on the sidelines. He'd go off on a ref and occasionally look annoyed, but he was mostly stoic. And he very rarely ever showed any frustration with a player. When he was asked about any individual, never criticized them by name and would usually criticize something else. If you asked him about a receive dropping the ball he'd talk about how the play was rushed because protection was bad. Or if you asked about bad protection he'd say it's hard to block forever if no one is open. Every player KNEW that if they messed up though he was going to chew their asses out behind the scenes. He didn't have to put on a show for the media and fans for the players to know he was tough on them.
I think more important than trying to embarrass grown men in public during a time where immature fans are already going to start ripping them on their social media, even posting nasty things to their wives' pages, it's about instilling accountability behind closed doors.
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Post by chiyankee on Nov 4, 2024 14:38:41 GMT -5
1 World Series, the 78 season was going down the tubes until the Yanks made a managerial change. How did 1980 and 1981 workout without Billy Martin? They were best team in the AL both years. |
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Post by qimqam on Nov 4, 2024 14:46:53 GMT -5
So like the name says, I'm in the Boston area. I like all the other Boston teams, but became a Yankees fans because Bernie Williams was my favorite player. So the point with the Boston thing is seeing Belichick for so many years. He was rarely emotional on the sidelines. He'd go off on a ref and occasionally look annoyed, but he was mostly stoic. And he very rarely ever showed any frustration with a player. When he was asked about any individual, never criticized them by name and would usually criticize something else. If you asked him about a receive dropping the ball he'd talk about how the play was rushed because protection was bad. Or if you asked about bad protection he'd say it's hard to block forever if no one is open. Every player KNEW that if they messed up though he was going to chew their asses out behind the scenes. He didn't have to put on a show for the media and fans for the players to know he was tough on them. I think more important than trying to embarrass grown men in public during a time where immature fans are already going to start ripping them on their social media, even posting nasty things to their wives' pages, it's about instilling accountability behind closed doors. Patriots executive takes apparent shot at Bill Belichick culture: 'Less of a hard-ass vibe' It is not a far reach to say Wolf's comment was a dig at Belichick, who ran a very tight ship. "The Hoodie" was known for being one of the toughest coaches in the league, cracking down hard on players who did not follow the team's expectations. One way to describe his head-coaching style would certainly be "hard-ass."Feb 28, 2024 So it's ok to (Passively) embarrass players with benchings and demotions as long as you dont yell at them and It's ok to scream and Refs and insult them for doing their jobs ??? Because refs dont count as human beings |
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Post by qimqam on Nov 4, 2024 14:49:06 GMT -5
My point is it took a couple of players with passion and attitude to take a previously emotionless group of players to the next level .... If you think that made a difference. I doubt it did. But then I again it could be me that’s wrong. (Passive-aggressive viewpoint)… I dont think that was at all ... actually quite cordiale |
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