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Post by inger on Aug 21, 2018 20:32:05 GMT -5
Yes. I regard Billy Joel as the Johann Sebastian Bach of our times. A remarkable composer who’s appeal has continued into his 70’s now. The gig at MSG is incredible. No one does that. No one. Except of course Billy Joel. I regard “Until the Night” to be his piece ever, especially when one considers that he sang all the vocal parts and over-recorded. He also did that vocal trick on “For the Longest Time”, by the way. The versatility he’s shown is unmatched, and is what kept him relevant for so long. Plus, the guy looks like a toad and still got to marry Christie Brinkley... I'm a big Billy fan too and have all of his studio albums. 52nd Street is one of my all time favorite albums and the lyrics to "Until the Night" remind of a girl that I sort of dated but never had a complete relationship with. I haven't seen her in almost 25 years, but every time I hear that song, I think of her, I'm glad the song isn't a radio favorite. How does the same mind create the somber “Goodnight Saigon” and the flippy, happy “River of Dreams”. Most of his music either honors an event, or series of events, or a particular act that influenced him. I love that he did “Baby Grand” with Ray Charles. I wish he could have recorded something with another of my favorites, Joe Cocker... |
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Post by chiyankee on Aug 21, 2018 21:12:53 GMT -5
I'm a big Billy fan too and have all of his studio albums. 52nd Street is one of my all time favorite albums and the lyrics to "Until the Night" remind of a girl that I sort of dated but never had a complete relationship with. I haven't seen her in almost 25 years, but every time I hear that song, I think of her, I'm glad the song isn't a radio favorite. How does the same mind create the somber “Goodnight Saigon” and the flippy, happy “River of Dreams”. Most of his music either honors an event, or series of events, or a particular act that influenced him. I love that he did “Baby Grand” with Ray Charles. I wish he could have recorded something with another of my favorites, Joe Cocker...lol, I'm not sure how that one would have worked. I'm not a big Joe Cocker fan although I do like the live Mad Dogs & Englishmen LP. |
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Post by inger on Aug 21, 2018 22:37:21 GMT -5
Two recommendations that may let you see another side of Joe Cocker...”Don’t Let The Sun Go Down On Me” and “Sorry Seems To Be The Hardest Word”.
I played those two songs for Ruthie when we were dating and she instantly converted to fandom...I will say that some of his early stuff takes some getting used to (Mad Dogs and Englishmen included). And the fact that he did almost 100% covers go against him. His cover of the Beatle’s “Something”, the version he did when he was younger, has a hauntingly beautiful near-falsetto vibrato that I found so different from most of his music that I was captivated by it. He continued to perform the song well in his later years, but by then his upper register broke up so badly he had to drop an octave, losing the vibrato along with the range adjustment.
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I know most of you guys are more into bands than I am. I tend to enjoy a strong vocal performance...
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Post by chiyankee on Aug 21, 2018 22:47:11 GMT -5
Two recommendations that may let you see another side of Joe Cocker...”Don’t Let The Sun Go Down On Me” and “Sorry Seems To Be The Hardest Word”. I played those two songs for Ruthie when we were dating and she instantly converted to fandom...I will say that some of his early stuff takes some getting used to (Mad Dogs and Englishmen included). And the fact that he did almost 100% covers go against him. His cover of the Beatle’s “Something”, the version he did when he was younger, has a hauntingly beautiful near-falsetto vibrato that I found so different from most of his music that I was captivated by it. He continued to perform the song well in his later years, but by then his upper register broke up so badly he had to drop an octave, losing the vibrato along with the range adjustment. ] I know most of you guys are more into bands than I am. I tend to enjoy a strong vocal performance... I'll check them out on Spotify. We need a music thread again. |
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Post by inger on Aug 21, 2018 22:55:46 GMT -5
Music threads are good. I listened to quite few acts I had never heard of before and found some new stuff to like. Old habits die hard though. It seems in the past year or so I’m slipping more and more back to the stuff from my younger days...
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Post by kaybli on Aug 21, 2018 23:37:08 GMT -5
Two recommendations that may let you see another side of Joe Cocker...”Don’t Let The Sun Go Down On Me” and “Sorry Seems To Be The Hardest Word”. I played those two songs for Ruthie when we were dating and she instantly converted to fandom...I will say that some of his early stuff takes some getting used to (Mad Dogs and Englishmen included). And the fact that he did almost 100% covers go against him. His cover of the Beatle’s “Something”, the version he did when he was younger, has a hauntingly beautiful near-falsetto vibrato that I found so different from most of his music that I was captivated by it. He continued to perform the song well in his later years, but by then his upper register broke up so badly he had to drop an octave, losing the vibrato along with the range adjustment. ] I know most of you guys are more into bands than I am. I tend to enjoy a strong vocal performance... I'll check them out on Spotify. We need a music thread again. We have one:
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Post by domeplease on Aug 23, 2018 11:59:49 GMT -5
www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/the-10-biggest-surprises-of-the-mlb-season/ss-BBMk7K2?li=BBnba9I#image=4 3. The arrival of the Atlanta Braves Coming off a third consecutive 90-loss season and seeing their then-general manager John Coppolella banned for life for dealing under the table to land international prospects, the Braves looked to be in a tailspin headed into the year. However, armed with a precocious stash of young talent that was ready for its time immediately, the Braves became the talk of the National League. Ozzie Albies, Ronald Acuna and Dansby Swanson joined MVP-candidate Freddie Freeman as the driving everyday forces for baseball’s youngest breakout faction. When Mike Soroka joined Albies and Acuna in Atlanta in early May, the Braves had the three youngest players in baseball, all being born in 1997 – the same year Bartolo Colon made his MLB debut. KEY WORDS: PROSPECTS & YOUNG.
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Post by inger on Aug 23, 2018 13:06:39 GMT -5
www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/the-10-biggest-surprises-of-the-mlb-season/ss-BBMk7K2?li=BBnba9I#image=4 3. The arrival of the Atlanta Braves Coming off a third consecutive 90-loss season and seeing their then-general manager John Coppolella banned for life for dealing under the table to land international prospects, the Braves looked to be in a tailspin headed into the year. However, armed with a precocious stash of young talent that was ready for its time immediately, the Braves became the talk of the National League. Ozzie Albies, Ronald Acuna and Dansby Swanson joined MVP-candidate Freddie Freeman as the driving everyday forces for baseball’s youngest breakout faction. When Mike Soroka joined Albies and Acuna in Atlanta in early May, the Braves had the three youngest players in baseball, all being born in 1997 – the same year Bartolo Colon made his MLB debut. KEY WORDS: PROSPECTS & YOUNG. Dome, I don't know if you've ever read up on Branch Rickey, but back in his day he used to be quite aggressive in trading away young talent before the players reached the age of 30. His trading record had mixed results. Some of us recall Bill DeWitt of Cincinnati dealing Frank Robinson in the winter of '65 and publicly saying that Robinson was an "old thirty" only to watch Robinson win a triple crown and MVP with a career best season in 1966. My basic belief is that it's true that most of the players have completed most of their best seasons by age 32 or so, but that there are exceptions to every rule. I also believe that the best teams are made up of a mix of veterans and youth. The veterans knowledge and experience can be tapped by the young players, while the younger players infuse the veterans with energy by keeping them fighting for their jobs... One thing is certain. There are enough differences in human beings that it's difficult to pigeon-hole us into one mass... |
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Post by inger on Aug 23, 2018 16:47:00 GMT -5
The Red Sox pounded on the Indians today, winning 7-0...
Not long ago I thought David Price might be over the hill, but there he was today...tossing 8 innings of 5 hit shut out baseball. An instance where the Red Sox our-maneuvered the Yankees a few years back that I thought the Yankees were the smarter team avoiding Price’s arm due to the mileage on it. As it turns out, perhaps all he needed was a 75,000 mile check up and some mild maintenance. He’s still purring like a kitten, and while there may a few nicks and scratches on the body, he still shines up well with a bit of attention...
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Post by utahyank on Aug 23, 2018 17:31:16 GMT -5
The Red Sox pounded on the Indians today, winning 7-0... Not long ago I thought David Price might be over the hill, but there he was today...tossing 8 innings of 5 hit shut out baseball. An instance where the Red Sox our-maneuvered the Yankees a few years back that I thought the Yankees were the smarter team avoiding Price’s arm due to the mileage on it. As it turns out, perhaps all he needed was a 75,000 mile check up and some mild maintenance. He’s still purring like a kitten, and while there may a few nicks and scratches on the body, he still shines up well with a bit of attention... the RS have made some very bold moves over the last few years, and remade their team a couple times that have mostly turned out well for them.....their pitching signings have been good for the most part....Porcello, Sale, Price, Kimbrel....and they have not been afraid to spend...…. |
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Post by rizzuto on Aug 23, 2018 17:58:00 GMT -5
Yeah, the Red Sox also finished last in the division in 2012, 2014, and 2015. The Yankees most recently finished last in the division in 1990.
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Post by inger on Aug 23, 2018 18:03:49 GMT -5
The Red Sox pounded on the Indians today, winning 7-0... Not long ago I thought David Price might be over the hill, but there he was today...tossing 8 innings of 5 hit shut out baseball. An instance where the Red Sox our-maneuvered the Yankees a few years back that I thought the Yankees were the smarter team avoiding Price’s arm due to the mileage on it. As it turns out, perhaps all he needed was a 75,000 mile check up and some mild maintenance. He’s still purring like a kitten, and while there may a few nicks and scratches on the body, he still shines up well with a bit of attention... the RS have made some very bold moves over the last few years, and remade their team a couple times that have mostly turned out well for them.....their pitching signings have been good for the most part....Porcello, Sale, Price, Kimbrel....and they have not been afraid to spend...…. Yes indeed. It would seem to me that the reason for the separation of their team has been completely due to the financial approach the Yankees have taken vs. that of the Red Sox. It’s arguable as to whether the new fiscal responsibility of the Yankees management group has slowed the growth of salaries in the past few seasons. There have definitely been some bearish free agent markets, but the talent level hasn’t been top- tier either. Perhaps the litmus test for salaries will come this winter. We’ve been lead to believe that the Yankees have been driven to this conservative position by their need/desire to eliminate the luxury tax. It’s also been intimated that Cashman and/or the Steinbrenners opine that they needn’t be the top spenders to win. Perhaps the litmus test for the entire financial approach will be learned by the Yankees position on top tier vs. second shelf selections in the FA market. I don’t personally get too excited about Machado nor Harper. I would like to do s very hard assessment of our pitching situation and consider a lot of change on the mound. We’ve been smacked hard with injuries this season and I believe our offense to be salvageable with some minor fill ins or change to make the transition.., |
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Post by utahyank on Aug 23, 2018 19:58:16 GMT -5
the RS have made some very bold moves over the last few years, and remade their team a couple times that have mostly turned out well for them.....their pitching signings have been good for the most part....Porcello, Sale, Price, Kimbrel....and they have not been afraid to spend...…. Yes indeed. It would seem to me that the reason for the separation of their team has been completely due to the financial approach the Yankees have taken vs. that of the Red Sox. It’s arguable as to whether the new fiscal responsibility of the Yankees management group has slowed the growth of salaries in the past few seasons. There have definitely been some bearish free agent markets, but the talent level hasn’t been top- tier either. Perhaps the litmus test for salaries will come this winter. We’ve been lead to believe that the Yankees have been driven to this conservative position by their need/desire to eliminate the luxury tax. It’s also been intimated that Cashman and/or the Steinbrenners opine that they needn’t be the top spenders to win. Perhaps the litmus test for the entire financial approach will be learned by the Yankees position on top tier vs. second shelf selections in the FA market. I don’t personally get too excited about Machado nor Harper. I would like to do s very hard assessment of our pitching situation and consider a lot of change on the mound.
We’ve been smacked hard with injuries this season and I believe our offense to be salvageable with some minor fill ins or change to make the transition.., I'm with you on pitching......Cashman needs to make some bold moves of his own this winter, and I hope the Steins will let him spend on FA.....this season has been disappointing....injuries have really hurt...under performance has compounded that, both pitching and hitting....and we have had a new manager with questionable results....at the core, this is a good offensive team that should be playing better than they have since about a fortnight before the AS game.....if it were not for Torres and Andujar, we would likely not reach even a WC playoff game... |
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Post by inger on Aug 23, 2018 20:52:36 GMT -5
Yes indeed. It would seem to me that the reason for the separation of their team has been completely due to the financial approach the Yankees have taken vs. that of the Red Sox. It’s arguable as to whether the new fiscal responsibility of the Yankees management group has slowed the growth of salaries in the past few seasons. There have definitely been some bearish free agent markets, but the talent level hasn’t been top- tier either. Perhaps the litmus test for salaries will come this winter. We’ve been lead to believe that the Yankees have been driven to this conservative position by their need/desire to eliminate the luxury tax. It’s also been intimated that Cashman and/or the Steinbrenners opine that they needn’t be the top spenders to win. Perhaps the litmus test for the entire financial approach will be learned by the Yankees position on top tier vs. second shelf selections in the FA market. I don’t personally get too excited about Machado nor Harper. I would like to do s very hard assessment of our pitching situation and consider a lot of change on the mound.
We’ve been smacked hard with injuries this season and I believe our offense to be salvageable with some minor fill ins or change to make the transition.., I'm with you on pitching......Cashman needs to make some bold moves of his own this winter, and I hope the Steins will let him spend on FA.....this season has been disappointing....injuries have really hurt...under performance has compounded that, both pitching and hitting....and we have had a new manager with questionable results....at the core, this is a good offensive team that should be playing better than they have since about a fortnight before the AS game.....if it were not for Torres and Andujar, we would likely not reach even a WC playoff game... I'm not sure the pitching we need can actually come from the group of pitchers in the free agent market. I think a much smarter approach would be to utilize some of our talent in the MiLB system to acquire pitchers that are fresh, young, accomplished and controllable... Price and Porcello are potentially on the market, as is Corbin again...I think...I sometimes lose track of late extensions and such...I'm not so sure that is the direction to go in, depending upon the market prices and number of years of the agreements required to get the job done. I do want to continue to leave room for the promotion of deserving pitchers (whom we supposedly could keep and still make the trades needed)...It's not easy prognosticating who will succeed at the top level and who won't, but as long as we seem to be blocking some of the kids...we either need to trade the blocking veterans or free the kids to play elsewhere... I'd still be willing to trade either Didi or Torres and keep one to play SS for the next several years. Obviously, Didi is the blue chip piece. Torres started like a house afire, but he's more than tapered off since...Yet his youth and talent package still suggest a star. Not terribly easy to choose between the two...As for free agent position players, I thought of Brian Dozier. I don't like him as a 2B, but I feel he could move to 1B. He's not having a great walk year, and might come at a relative bargain cost. Yeah. I know. He's never played 1B. And he's only 5'11" tall. And right handed. I just said I thought of him. He'll be 32 so the price would need to be right... |
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Post by rizzuto on Aug 26, 2018 14:15:41 GMT -5
Rays ahead of the Red Sox 6-1 heading to the bottom of the sixth in Tampa Bay. The Yankees would be five games back in the loss column if Rays hold on for the win.
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