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Post by chiyankee on Nov 14, 2018 20:43:52 GMT -5
He got it because he pitched and hit and for no other reason. Well he is the next Babe Ruth. |
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Post by greatfatness on Nov 14, 2018 20:44:22 GMT -5
He got it because he pitched and hit and for no other reason. Well, and he did both of those things well. Because otherwise Austin Romine also pitched and hit but he did neither of those things well. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2018 21:07:04 GMT -5
A slight stretch there, GF.
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Post by kaybli on Nov 15, 2018 3:08:38 GMT -5
Rays' Blake Snell named AL Cy Young Award winner in first full season in majors
Mets' Jacob deGrom rides majors-best 1.70 ERA to NL Cy Young Award
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Post by greatfatness on Nov 15, 2018 4:16:45 GMT -5
A slight stretch there, GF. Just pointing out that he didn’t win because he was a sideshow like Pat Venditte. He did it well, it wasn’t just that he attempted to do it. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2018 6:13:35 GMT -5
Oh, I would have voted for him also. I was just intimating that it was his collective talents that won it for him.
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Post by kaybli on Nov 15, 2018 7:33:15 GMT -5
Mets' Jacob deGrom rides majors-best 1.70 ERA to NL Cy Young Award
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Post by chiyankee on Nov 15, 2018 11:07:33 GMT -5
Mets' Jacob deGrom rides majors-best 1.70 ERA to NL Cy Young Award
Ouch!!!  |
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Post by kaybli on Nov 15, 2018 19:21:43 GMT -5
Mookie Betts beats Mike Trout, Jose Ramirez to win American League MVP
Brewers' Christian Yelich beats out Nolan Arenado, Javier Baez for NL MVP award
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Post by greatfatness on Dec 5, 2018 13:01:32 GMT -5
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Post by inger on Dec 5, 2018 14:42:01 GMT -5
Launch angle... 1200 sounds like a lot at first blush, but one wonders (or could look it up) how many more strikeouts there were, which reduces the opportunity for grounders as well as fly balls and line drives...Then you take the the 1200 and divide by 30 teams and find that it's only 40 less per team...and divide by 162 games per team and it's only 1/4 of a grounder per team per game...But nonetheless the game is changing...for good or for bad... |
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Post by chiyankee on Dec 5, 2018 14:44:25 GMT -5
Launch angle... 1200 sounds like a lot at first blush, but one wonders (or could look it up) how many more strikeouts there were, which reduces the opportunity for grounders as well as fly balls and line drives...Then you take the the 1200 and divide by 30 teams and find that it's only 40 less per team...and divide by 162 games per team and it's only 1/4 of a grounder per team per game...But nonetheless the game is changing...for good or for bad... Launch angle plus hitters a striking out now at an all time rate. It's getting harder for these guys to put the ball in play. |
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Post by greatfatness on Dec 5, 2018 15:09:43 GMT -5
Launch angle... 1200 sounds like a lot at first blush, but one wonders (or could look it up) how many more strikeouts there were, which reduces the opportunity for grounders as well as fly balls and line drives...Then you take the the 1200 and divide by 30 teams and find that it's only 40 less per team...and divide by 162 games per team and it's only 1/4 of a grounder per team per game...But nonetheless the game is changing...for good or for bad... Launch angle plus hitters a striking out now at an all time rate. It's getting harder for these guys to put the ball in play. I don’t have stats on this but there are more guys throwing really hard also. 94-95 used to be an exceptional fastball velocity, really not that long ago. Now every team has guys that touch high 90s. |
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Post by inger on Dec 5, 2018 15:09:57 GMT -5
Launch angle... 1200 sounds like a lot at first blush, but one wonders (or could look it up) how many more strikeouts there were, which reduces the opportunity for grounders as well as fly balls and line drives...Then you take the the 1200 and divide by 30 teams and find that it's only 40 less per team...and divide by 162 games per team and it's only 1/4 of a grounder per team per game...But nonetheless the game is changing...for good or for bad... Launch angle plus hitters a striking out now at an all time rate. It's getting harder for these guys to put the ball in play. And when you re-read that, it's not ground balls, it's ground ball hits, which leans toward positioning of fielders, shifts in particular...Once again though, factoring in strikeouts that number is not quite as shocking...Plus we have a general drop in BA that not only must be considered, but also the lack of GB hits is contributing to... I interpreted that as ground balls the first time around, so I thought perhaps others had too... |
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Post by inger on Dec 5, 2018 15:14:04 GMT -5
Launch angle plus hitters a striking out now at an all time rate. It's getting harder for these guys to put the ball in play. I don’t have stats on this but there are more guys throwing really hard also. 94-95 used to be an exceptional fastball velocity, really not that long ago. Now every team has guys that touch high 90s. I think that's a degree of bullshit we're being fed, GF. They changed the way they clocked speed a few years back. It used to be as the ball crossed the plate, and it's now as the ball leaves the pitcher's hand. Today's 98 is likely 2015's 95, as it stands to reason the ball is decelerated by the time it reaches the plate. I will concur that there are more of the guys throwing the old 95 which is now 98, though...The change was made to make the game sound more exciting...more 100 MPH fastballs than ever!!! New Records!!! (kind of like when they turned their backs on steroid use, NEW HR KING!...Bullshit)... |
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