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Post by inger on Mar 9, 2019 11:34:33 GMT -5
Loaiza gets 3-year prison sentence for cocaine
Former All-Star pitcher Esteban Loaiza was sentenced to three years in prison for cocaine possession Friday.
Loaiza pleaded guilty in August to possessing about 20 kilograms, or 44 pounds, of cocaine with intent to distribute. He was arrested in February 2018.
Prosecutors had sought a sentence of nearly five years, while Loaiza's attorney had pushed for 18 to 24 months before U.S. District Judge Janis Sammartino issued her sentence in San Diego federal court.
Who can blame the poor guy? He only made about $42,000,000 or so in his entire baseball career. That was 14 long hard seasons. Think about this dude's career. It's a weird one. From 1995-2002 he compiles a sorry-looking 69-73; 4.88 ERA. Then in 2003 (age 31) he goes 21-9 ; 2.90 and leads the AL in K's with 207, finishing second in the CY balloting. Then in 2004 he cgoes back to his old habits and winds up the season sucking the life out of the Yankees with an 8.50 ERA in ten games before finishing the rest of his career (2004-2008) at 36-32 ; 4.81. So he's 105-104 with an ERA of 4.85 for 13 seasons and almost wins the Cy Young Award in the middle of his career... He should have been locked up years ago for the shitty ten games in NY... |
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Post by greatfatness on Mar 10, 2019 14:17:46 GMT -5
Loaiza gets 3-year prison sentence for cocaine
Former All-Star pitcher Esteban Loaiza was sentenced to three years in prison for cocaine possession Friday.
Loaiza pleaded guilty in August to possessing about 20 kilograms, or 44 pounds, of cocaine with intent to distribute. He was arrested in February 2018.
Prosecutors had sought a sentence of nearly five years, while Loaiza's attorney had pushed for 18 to 24 months before U.S. District Judge Janis Sammartino issued her sentence in San Diego federal court.
Who can blame the poor guy? He only made about $42,000,000 or so in his entire baseball career. That was 14 long hard seasons. Think about this dude's career. It's a weird one. From 1995-2002 he compiles a sorry-looking 69-73; 4.88 ERA. Then in 2003 (age 31) he goes 21-9 ; 2.90 and leads the AL in K's with 207, finishing second in the CY balloting. Then in 2004 he cgoes back to his old habits and winds up the season sucking the life out of the Yankees with an 8.50 ERA in ten games before finishing the rest of his career (2004-2008) at 36-32 ; 4.81. So he's 105-104 with an ERA of 4.85 for 13 seasons and almost wins the Cy Young Award in the middle of his career... He should have been locked up years ago for the shitty ten games in NY... Seems like an obvious candidate for PED use. |
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Post by noetsi on Mar 11, 2019 19:17:25 GMT -5
Can PED be that short lived?
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Post by greatfatness on Mar 11, 2019 20:23:11 GMT -5
Can PED be that short lived? Ask Tino Martinez and Andy Pettitte. A cycle lasts a lot less than one season based on what I read in Game of Shdows. |
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Post by inger on Mar 11, 2019 20:34:20 GMT -5
Can PED be that short lived? Ask Tino Martinez and Andy Pettitte. A cycle lasts a lot less than one season based on what I read in Game of Shdows. Maybe check in with Brady Anderson, too. Perhaps Andre “49 HR” Dawson and Adrian “47 HR” Beltre about a couple contract drive seasons they had... It seems several players may have used and gotten off the train before they needed bigger hats or ladies underwear... |
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Post by inger on Mar 11, 2019 21:05:38 GMT -5
Grapefruit League standings are incredibly close...6 teams within 0.5 games at the top...Including the Yankees at 1/2 game out...
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Post by greatfatness on Mar 12, 2019 3:20:25 GMT -5
Ask Tino Martinez and Andy Pettitte. A cycle lasts a lot less than one season based on what I read in Game of Shdows. Maybe check in with Brady Anderson, too. Perhaps Andre “49 HR” Dawson and Adrian “47 HR” Beltre about a couple contract drive seasons they had... It seems several players may have used and gotten off the train before they needed bigger hats or ladies underwear... Brady Anderson and Tino both had those one really suspicious seasons. As much as I enjoyed what Tino did at the time it is hard to explain now without putting your head in the sand. He seems like a decent guy so hopefully we are wrong and either there’s another explanation or it didn’t affect his health long term. |
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Post by kaybli on Mar 12, 2019 3:25:29 GMT -5
Maybe check in with Brady Anderson, too. Perhaps Andre “49 HR” Dawson and Adrian “47 HR” Beltre about a couple contract drive seasons they had... It seems several players may have used and gotten off the train before they needed bigger hats or ladies underwear... Brady Anderson and Tino both had those one really suspicious seasons. As much as I enjoyed what Tino did at the time it is hard to explain now without putting your head in the sand. He seems like a decent guy so hopefully we are wrong and either there’s another explanation or it didn’t affect his health long term. I used to love Tino. Would be a shame if it ever came out he used PEDs too. |
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Post by greatfatness on Mar 12, 2019 5:05:12 GMT -5
Brady Anderson and Tino both had those one really suspicious seasons. As much as I enjoyed what Tino did at the time it is hard to explain now without putting your head in the sand. He seems like a decent guy so hopefully we are wrong and either there’s another explanation or it didn’t affect his health long term. I used to love Tino. Would be a shame if it ever came out he used PEDs too. I did too. And Pettitte. Tino had never hit more than 31 HRs in a season before 1997. He averaged 27/year for his career. Then he hit 44 and slugged .577 at age 29. And never came close to doing that again. Hard to explain, if you want to assume he did it clean. That's not normal. Except that in 1997, a lot of guys in MLB were on PEDs. |
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Post by kaybli on Mar 12, 2019 5:26:07 GMT -5
I used to love Tino. Would be a shame if it ever came out he used PEDs too. I did too. And Pettitte. Tino had never hit more than 31 HRs in a season before 1997. He averaged 27/year for his career. Then he hit 44 and slugged .577 at age 29. And never came close to doing that again. Hard to explain, if you want to assume he did it clean. That's not normal. Except that in 1997, a lot of guys in MLB were on PEDs. I mean it's certainly fishy. Outlier seasons do happen though. You can't just chalk it up to PEDs without any other evidence. |
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Post by noetsi on Mar 12, 2019 18:03:18 GMT -5
I think the fact that he never did so again suggests it was a fluke not PED. During that era I think most who used PED kept using them, why not with no penalties. And if your had already broken the rules and gotten away with it for major gain, I don't think many would stop. Sometimes strange things happen in distributions. Everyone runs to one side of the room.....(there is a theory that atom's could do this, it would be bad if they ever did).  |
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Post by greatfatness on Mar 12, 2019 19:24:59 GMT -5
I think the fact that he never did so again suggests it was a fluke not PED. I don't see any rational reason to think that. At an age beyond his prime he had a huge increase in power that he never was able to sustain or repeat and it just so happened to be right in the middle of the PED era. Just a coincidence? Please. That's the kind of bullshit every team's fans say to try to explain why their lovable cheater is clean while the other team's cheater is dirty. |
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Post by greatfatness on Mar 12, 2019 19:38:55 GMT -5
I did too. And Pettitte. Tino had never hit more than 31 HRs in a season before 1997. He averaged 27/year for his career. Then he hit 44 and slugged .577 at age 29. And never came close to doing that again. Hard to explain, if you want to assume he did it clean. That's not normal. Except that in 1997, a lot of guys in MLB were on PEDs. I mean it's certainly fishy. Outlier seasons do happen though. You can't just chalk it up to PEDs without any other evidence. The evidence is the era he played in. Do you think Brady Anderson did that clean? The same thing, just different laundry. |
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Post by kaybli on Mar 12, 2019 19:46:08 GMT -5
I mean it's certainly fishy. Outlier seasons do happen though. You can't just chalk it up to PEDs without any other evidence. The evidence is the era he played in. Do you think Brady Anderson did that clean? The same thing, just different laundry. Brady Anderson was a much bigger jump:
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Post by greatfatness on Mar 12, 2019 20:21:23 GMT -5
The evidence is the era he played in. Do you think Brady Anderson did that clean? The same thing, just different laundry. Brady Anderson was a much bigger jump:
Maybe but the point still stands. The assertion (not yours) was, without any support, that players don’t have one year spikes from PED usage. That’s unsupportable. We have evidence of players like Pettitte who, if you believe him (I don’t) used it for less than a year. |
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