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Post by utahyank on Aug 23, 2018 14:25:42 GMT -5
I am not worried about Sanchez....he has a bat which will come around...and with the DH, he has a lineup spot, even if he is only a backup catcher... Bird is doing the best he can...whether it is the result of injuries, or a fragile body or just not quite having the hitting skill to be productive at this level...he has fallen short, while having spurts of production that tantalize and have resulted in an expectation that will probably not be realized..... I blame the Yankees for their handling of the 1B position....what is even more concerning for me as a fan is the comments of the other good people posting here that, if replicated in the Yankee front office, will continue to have an expectation beyond reality... I agree with you utahyank about Sanchez's bat coming around, hopefully right after he comes off the DL. I assume Stanton will move back to the primary DH, as he was before. We will then have to live with Sanchez being the primary catcher, and his defense scares me a lot. yeah....I could see Stanton playing quite a bit in the OF, with Sanchez at DH...and using Romine to catch perhaps 60 % of the games....this thought may draw some negativity, but Judge is athletic enough to be a good first baseman...and certainly his size and reach make a good target to throw to....it should come to the minds of the Yankees, whether they do anything with it or not..... |
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Post by bearman on Aug 23, 2018 14:37:40 GMT -5
I am concerned that the injuries to Sanchez, and maybe Judge, may be a little more than nagging and I am guessing any great experiments might have to wait until next year. I agree that Judge would probably adapt well to first base but I would not want to lose his outfield arm. Runners really respect that and that is probably worth a win or two over the course of a season. I get it about Sanchez being the DH and that would probably be my solution in an ideal world but that would probably move Gardner to the bench and I don't see that happening. If Sanchez comes back and starts to hit again like last year I could live with his catching deficiencies, but watching him trying to catch a low outside slider can be brutal.
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Post by utahyank on Aug 23, 2018 15:21:03 GMT -5
I am concerned that the injuries to Sanchez, and maybe Judge, may be a little more than nagging and I am guessing any great experiments might have to wait until next year. I agree that Judge would probably adapt well to first base but I would not want to lose his outfield arm. Runners really respect that and that is probably worth a win or two over the course of a season. I get it about Sanchez being the DH and that would probably be my solution in an ideal world but that would probably move Gardner to the bench and I don't see that happening. If Sanchez comes back and starts to hit again like last year I could live with his catching deficiencies, but watching him trying to catch a low outside slider can be brutal. watching some of the catching by Sanchez is brutal, I agree.....I don't anticipate any real improvement in that which is a real shame... Any movement of a player such as Judge to 1B would have to come over the winter....Bird is what we have now, and we will have to hope for best the rest of the season....whether it is a player learning that position or an acquisition, I hope that 1B is addressed over the off-season, rather than continue to hope for a fantasy..... |
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Post by chiyankee on Aug 23, 2018 15:25:19 GMT -5
I am concerned that the injuries to Sanchez, and maybe Judge, may be a little more than nagging and I am guessing any great experiments might have to wait until next year. I agree that Judge would probably adapt well to first base but I would not want to lose his outfield arm. Runners really respect that and that is probably worth a win or two over the course of a season. I get it about Sanchez being the DH and that would probably be my solution in an ideal world but that would probably move Gardner to the bench and I don't see that happening. If Sanchez comes back and starts to hit again like last year I could live with his catching deficiencies, but watching him trying to catch a low outside slider can be brutal. watching some of the catching by Sanchez is brutal, I agree.....I don't anticipate any real improvement in that which is a real shame... Any movement of a player such as Judge to 1B would have to come over the winter....Bird is what we have now, and we will have to hope for best the rest of the season....whether it is a player learning that position or an acquisition, I hope that 1B is addressed over the off-season, rather than continue to hope for a fantasy..... Judge is a plus defender in RF, so I wouldn't move him from there. Maybe we can give Stanton a first baseman's glove in October and let him work out there all off season? |
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Post by inger on Aug 23, 2018 15:51:41 GMT -5
watching some of the catching by Sanchez is brutal, I agree.....I don't anticipate any real improvement in that which is a real shame... Any movement of a player such as Judge to 1B would have to come over the winter....Bird is what we have now, and we will have to hope for best the rest of the season....whether it is a player learning that position or an acquisition, I hope that 1B is addressed over the off-season, rather than continue to hope for a fantasy..... Judge is a plus defender in RF, so I wouldn't move him from there. Maybe we can give Stanton a first baseman's glove in October and let him work out there all off season? Such a simple idea, chiyankee. So simple and so obvious. Stanton does well in RF, but not quite as well as Judge. With Stanton’s injury history it would seem to be wise to not have him running around in the OF. If Judge’s size ever begins to get in his way, of make him less mobile, then he could also work out at 1B later in his career...but not now!!! |
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Post by rizzuto on Aug 23, 2018 17:48:22 GMT -5
Since coming off the DL, Gleyber Torres is hitting .194/.276/.312/.588. That's a sample size of 25 games and over 100 plate appearances...after a ten-day DL stint. Bird misses the better part of three seasons, and he's done? It's a fantasy to think otherwise? Try this on: Gleyber Torres is shiny and new, and has a career 311 at bats. Bird, seemingly a veteran to some, has a career 551 at bats. In those 551 at bats Bird has 31 home runs, 94 RBI, 29 doubles, 1 triple, and 66 walks.
The Yankees are on pace to win 102 games. If Boston were not on pace to win 115 games, say rather 93 games, would we be talking about Greg Bird's replacement?
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Post by chiyankee on Aug 23, 2018 20:44:12 GMT -5
Since coming off the DL, Gleyber Torres is hitting .194/.276/.312/.588. That's a sample size of 25 games and over 100 plate appearances...after a ten-day DL stint. Bird misses the better part of three seasons, and he's done? It's a fantasy to think otherwise? Try this on: Gleyber Torres is shiny and new, and has a career 311 at bats. Bird, seemingly a veteran to some, has a career 551 at bats. In those 551 at bats Bird has 31 home runs, 94 RBI, 29 doubles, 1 triple, and 66 walks. The Yankees are on pace to win 102 games. If Boston were not on pace to win 115 games, say rather 93 games, would we be talking about Greg Bird's replacement? I think some would. First base is a position where offense comes first and it's been a black hole for the Yankees most of the season. Throw in Bird's poor defense to go with this weak bat a d it surprising how long the leash has been. |
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Post by inger on Aug 23, 2018 21:09:53 GMT -5
Since coming off the DL, Gleyber Torres is hitting .194/.276/.312/.588. That's a sample size of 25 games and over 100 plate appearances...after a ten-day DL stint. Bird misses the better part of three seasons, and he's done? It's a fantasy to think otherwise? Try this on: Gleyber Torres is shiny and new, and has a career 311 at bats. Bird, seemingly a veteran to some, has a career 551 at bats. In those 551 at bats Bird has 31 home runs, 94 RBI, 29 doubles, 1 triple, and 66 walks. The Yankees are on pace to win 102 games. If Boston were not on pace to win 115 games, say rather 93 games, would we be talking about Greg Bird's replacement? I think some would. First base is a position where offense comes first and it's been a black hole for the Yankees most of the season. Throw in Bird's poor defense to go with this weak bat a d it surprising how long the leash has been. I don't know that we should be thinking of replacing Bird so much as covering the position in case he can't return to past glory. There have been plenty of young players who, beset by injuries and seemingly recovered never returned to form. To give up on a player with 30+ HR and .280+ possibilities is mad. Especially when we would have to basically give him away at this point. But to bank on him is almost equally mad... As for Gleyber, his situation is much more dire than the performance since the DL stint. Since he woke on June 2 batting .330, he's only hit .223/.293/.409 in a full third of a season (54 games). He's still hitting his HR, with 9 during that stretch. I wish he hadn't hit so many HR when he first came up. He's lost his approach at the plate. Gone is the patience, gone is the up the middle approach...He's become the thing that so many hitters have become, a glory hog looking constantly for his next HR. He can be a .300+ hitter that hits 15-25 HR per season. Or...this that he has become...Like so many others have chosen to be... |
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Post by utahyank on Aug 24, 2018 0:24:42 GMT -5
if Gleyber in his 4th year is hitting about .200....like Bird is....and having 9 or 10 homers at this stage, like Bird is....then it will likely be time for the Yankees to move on from Gleyber....those are bad numbers, and particularly so from a corner spot...
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Post by inger on Aug 24, 2018 6:34:49 GMT -5
if Gleyber in his 4th year is hitting about .200....like Bird is....and having 9 or 10 homers at this stage, like Bird is....then it will likely be time for the Yankees to move on from Gleyber....those are bad numbers, and particularly so from a corner spot... I'm not nearly as concerned about Gleyber as perhaps I sounded. I know as a young player he'll have to make adjustments. I am of course concerned as to what kind of adjustments he has already made and what kind he'll make in the future. I am concerned that Boone now likes to bat him in the power spots in the line up even though he is not producing as he was in the past, but then again...Boone's options have become rather limited... |
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Post by utahyank on Aug 24, 2018 9:11:03 GMT -5
if Gleyber in his 4th year is hitting about .200....like Bird is....and having 9 or 10 homers at this stage, like Bird is....then it will likely be time for the Yankees to move on from Gleyber....those are bad numbers, and particularly so from a corner spot... I'm not nearly as concerned about Gleyber as perhaps I sounded. I know as a young player he'll have to make adjustments. I am of course concerned as to what kind of adjustments he has already made and what kind he'll make in the future. I am concerned that Boone now likes to bat him in the power spots in the line up even though he is not producing as he was in the past, but then again... Boone's options have become rather limited...yes they have......as his options have narrowed, it seems his managing has become a bit more conventional...he had a bad year, but maybe it was a learning year...at any rate, with the injuries and under performances, this was apparently not to be a title year..... Gleyber is really exceptional, in my view.....the only way he does not become a star would be injuries....and, while injuries may have, and probably did, limit Bird from being the hitter he might have been...I saw Bird's ceiling as lower....still, Bird is what we have for the time being...…... |
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Post by inger on Aug 24, 2018 10:04:56 GMT -5
Speaking of injured players that never quite lived up to expectations...does anyone know if Slade Heathcott is still an active player. I know he was on Oakland’s AAA team earlier this season with rather tepid numbers, but I seem to recall him being released...
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Post by inger on Aug 24, 2018 10:12:20 GMT -5
Speaking of injured players that never quite lived up to expectations...does anyone know if Slade Heathcott is still an active player. I know he was on Oakland’s AAA team earlier this season with rather tepid numbers, but I seem to recall him being released... Reply to self: Found it. Released by the A’s back in May after a knee injury. Now playing for the Sugarland Skeeters in an Indy League. Keep that dream alive, Slade. As long as there’s a single breath in it. I know I would. Heck. Worst case you retire with a .400 MLB career average and a bit of money on your pocket for having played a game. You’ll feel a bit empty until you find something else to love... |
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Post by inger on Aug 24, 2018 10:21:12 GMT -5
The story didn’t get better when I checked the Sugarland Skeeters stats. There is an X beside his name. Since he hasn’t played since mid-July, I suspect that either he, the team, or both had seen enough after he went 6 for 31 (.194) in ten games. Hope he finds happiness and stays on the straight and narrow...I was never quite sold on him, as a person or a player. I guess I was right about the player and I hope I was wrong about the person. Best of luck to him. Remember, we usually make our own luck, Slade. At least after we grow up...
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Post by utahyank on Aug 24, 2018 11:23:39 GMT -5
dang....I used to have quite an incisive memory, but the years have impacted that....I want to say Brian Taylor, but that may not be right....I'm thinking of the lefty phenom pitcher that got injured in a bar fight...…...what might have been with him....
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