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Post by kaybli on Oct 27, 2018 2:11:13 GMT -5
I hope your arm falls off, Elvodia!
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Post by kaybli on Oct 27, 2018 2:31:41 GMT -5
Yes! Take that Elvodia! Muncy wins it in the 18th! Kinsler with the critical error when the game could have been over! Let's see if this haunts Boston going forward!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2018 5:30:53 GMT -5
I could give a shit. I hate both teams.
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Post by pippsheadache on Oct 27, 2018 7:42:07 GMT -5
Jeez, I woke up around 2:30 AM to go to the bathroom -- flipped on ESPN Radio to see who won, and the thing was still going on. I thought at first they were just playing highlights. So just like the old days, I laid in bed listening to the game -- Dan Schulman and Chris Singleton were kind of punch-drunk from the marathon.
Hopefully we have a series now. Does this mean Drew Pomeranz has to start for Boston?
And Chuck, I hate both teams too. But in my hierarchy of hated baseball team, my list has Boston at the top, followed narrowly by the Mets, and then a bit of a drop-off to the Dodgers. Then it becomes situationally random until I get to the Yanks as the only team I truly care about.
It's not impossible, but I find it hard to watch any sporting event without in one way or another pulling for one side. Everyone is different, but if I care enough to watch something, I will eventually want one side to do better. Last summer I started watching the Tour de France -- I didn't know who any of those guys were -- in fairly short order I became a fan of Peter Sagan and Chris Froome -- I will admit a Red Sox-Mets series would be more difficult for me.
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Post by greatfatness on Oct 27, 2018 8:12:46 GMT -5
Pretty amazing performance by Eovaldi. He’s going to get paid this offseason.
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Post by greatfatness on Oct 27, 2018 8:13:30 GMT -5
Elvodia is really starting to piss me off. I’m sure they had their reasons but this one looks like a clear miss for Cashman. |
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Post by greatfatness on Oct 27, 2018 8:15:30 GMT -5
Oh yeah. I still care about all those Honus Wagner and Stan Musial and Wade Boggs and Tony Gwynn batting titles. Preach it brother. If they don't already do it, I would bet that even at my advanced age I will get to see trophies handed out for launch angle and spin rate. Tony Suck would be rolling over in his grave. My argument for years has been that batting average should be a portion of OPS if we really want to get any sense of a player’s ability by completing such a foolish act as adding up numbers that have nothing to do with each other. Today’s OPS looks like this: Joey Gallo .312 + .498 = .810 It should be ..206 + .312 + .498 = 1.308 If you compared those numbers to players who make more contact and contribute base hits, his OPS + would not be 106+, guaranteed. Gallo currently has hit more HR than singles in his MLB career, and has fanned about 20% more often than he’s reached base. *Mr. Gallo’s stats were pulled from my memory, so they may vary from his actual numbers. I used him because he seems to be one of the poster boys, if not THE poster boy for an all or nothing player not named Chris Davis... Not to get too statistically nerdy but that formula gives double weight to hits which show up in avg and OPS when statistically hits don’t correlate to runs scored in that way. So it is more misleading if the purpose is to have a metric that tells you which hitters are helping teams to score runs. |
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Post by pippsheadache on Oct 27, 2018 8:37:04 GMT -5
Pretty amazing performance by Eovaldi. He’s going to get paid this offseason. Oh yeah. He had perfect timing for his baseball re-birth. |
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Post by pippsheadache on Oct 27, 2018 8:46:58 GMT -5
One of the things mentioned on the radio broadcast last night was that this one game took more playing time than the entire 1939 World Series, in which the Yankees swept the Reds 4-0. Checking the record, Game One took 1:33, Game Two took 1:27, Game Three took 2:01, and Game Four took 2:04. A total of 7 hours and 5 minutes, or fifteen minutes less than this one game.
Games three and four weren't even terribly low-scoring -- 7-3 and 7-4. I am guessing there weren't a lot of mound visits or ten-pitch at-bats. No replays, of course. No stepping out of the batter's box. But even with all of that, it seems almost impossible that those games could have moved so quickly. There had to have been a lot of first-pitch swinging.
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Post by greatfatness on Oct 27, 2018 8:58:12 GMT -5
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Post by pippsheadache on Oct 27, 2018 9:07:42 GMT -5
Hilarious. I sure can't tell them apart.
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Post by inger on Oct 27, 2018 9:14:26 GMT -5
My argument for years has been that batting average should be a portion of OPS if we really want to get any sense of a player’s ability by completing such a foolish act as adding up numbers that have nothing to do with each other. Today’s OPS looks like this: Joey Gallo .312 + .498 = .810 It should be ..206 + .312 + .498 = 1.308 If you compared those numbers to players who make more contact and contribute base hits, his OPS + would not be 106+, guaranteed. Gallo currently has hit more HR than singles in his MLB career, and has fanned about 20% more often than he’s reached base. *Mr. Gallo’s stats were pulled from my memory, so they may vary from his actual numbers. I used him because he seems to be one of the poster boys, if not THE poster boy for an all or nothing player not named Chris Davis... Not to get too statistically nerdy but that formula gives double weight to hits which show up in avg and OPS when statistically hits don’t correlate to runs scored in that way. So it is more misleading if the purpose is to have a metric that tells you which hitters are helping teams to score runs. That's actually my intention, because hit's tend to move runners along more than one base at a time. I feel they have more value than walks, though walks are still valuable as well...To me, the key is having runners on base WHEN SOMETHING HAPPENS, and SOMETHING is generally going to be a hit of some sort...I don't necessarily think this is a truly accurate measurement of performance, but neither is our current OPS, which I believe may be overvaluing power. By adding the extra value for hits the weighting for power is diluted in the formula...and again, not to completely dismiss the value of power, for it is important... BTW, Sheldon Cooper said to send you his love... |
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Post by inger on Oct 27, 2018 9:15:54 GMT -5
Hilarious. I sure can't tell them apart. Question, can you be sued for trademark infringement if you grow a beard look like...Nah, can't be...can it??? |
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Post by greatfatness on Oct 27, 2018 9:37:54 GMT -5
Not to get too statistically nerdy but that formula gives double weight to hits which show up in avg and OPS when statistically hits don’t correlate to runs scored in that way. So it is more misleading if the purpose is to have a metric that tells you which hitters are helping teams to score runs. That's actually my intention, because hit's tend to move runners along more than one base at a time. I feel they have more value than walks, though walks are still valuable as well...To me, the key is having runners on base WHEN SOMETHING HAPPENS, and SOMETHING is generally going to be a hit of some sort...I don't necessarily think this is a truly accurate measurement of performance, but neither is our current OPS, which I believe may be overvaluing power. By adding the extra value for hits the weighting for power is diluted in the formula...and again, not to completely dismiss the value of power, for it is important... BTW, Sheldon Cooper said to send you his love... I won't go into it in detail, because it is pretty clear there isn't interest, but this has been studied extensively. OBP correlates the best to runs scored because it is the literal definition of not making an out and also includes hits, which you're describing. After that, almost equal to OBP is SLG which of course also accounts for hits. The events beyond those statistics are hits/avg, then HRs (obviously also a hit), then walks. So, if the point is that a walk is not as good as a hit, OPS already accounts for that - hits are in both elements of OPS already. Back when I had more time for this stuff, I read up on this quite a bit, because I like this kind of thing. OPS isn't perfect, there are other measurements which are slightly better indications of a team's ability to score runs but all of those are much harder to calculate and the improvement in correlation is very small. |
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Post by greatfatness on Oct 27, 2018 9:38:50 GMT -5
Hilarious. I sure can't tell them apart. Question, can you be sued for trademark infringement if you grow a beard look like...Nah, can't be...can it??? Turner had the beard before the Flyers introduced this mascot, but in our house we love them both.
By the way, great job by the Mets letting Turner go for nothing. Very Mets of them.
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