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Post by pippsheadache on Nov 2, 2018 16:26:44 GMT -5
They knew he wasn’t taking that deal... That story doesn’t make sense. That’s a pretty big gamble to take just for show. I don’t know of anyone in business (who hasn’t already failed) that takes risks like that. The narrative that they ran Cano out of town because he didn’t hustle is revisionist history. That’s just not what happened. They wanted him back at a price, offered him a big contract and got outbid and stayed financially disciplined. If you had told Seattle management when they made this deal that at the halfway point Cano's OBP and SLG would be a bit under what they were in his nine years with the Yankees -- and that his presence there still didn't get them into a single post-season game and that he would get a half-season PED suspension -- I don't think they would have thought it was a wise use of money. And if the Yankees could magically take him back right now, and pay him the rest of that contract, five years left at $120 million -- I am pretty sure they would say no thank you. The Yankees made Cano a very fair offer. As much as I hated to see him go, and as much as he is a near-certain HOFer (pending PED attitudes) and possibly the best Yankee second baseman ever, I was glad at the time the Yanks didn't match Seattle's offer and nothing that has happened since then has caused me to change my mind. |
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Post by greatfatness on Nov 2, 2018 17:23:33 GMT -5
That story doesn’t make sense. That’s a pretty big gamble to take just for show. I don’t know of anyone in business (who hasn’t already failed) that takes risks like that. The narrative that they ran Cano out of town because he didn’t hustle is revisionist history. That’s just not what happened. They wanted him back at a price, offered him a big contract and got outbid and stayed financially disciplined. If you had told Seattle management when they made this deal that at the halfway point Cano's OBP and SLG would be a bit under what they were in his nine years with the Yankees -- and that his presence there still didn't get them into a single post-season game and that he would get a half-season PED suspension -- I don't think they would have thought it was a wise use of money. And if the Yankees could magically take him back right now, and pay him the rest of that contract, five years left at $120 million -- I am pretty sure they would say no thank you. The Yankees made Cano a very fair offer. As much as I hated to see him go, and as much as he is a near-certain HOFer (pending PED attitudes) and possibly the best Yankee second baseman ever, I was glad at the time the Yanks didn't match Seattle's offer and nothing that has happened since then has caused me to change my mind. I don’t disagree with any of that (except that I did want the Yankees to keep him). But none of that changes the history that they tried to retain him and just got outbid. At the time I liked that the Yanks seemed to be showing financial restraint. And then I saw what the spent the money on instead. |
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Post by inger on Nov 2, 2018 17:42:38 GMT -5
When you look at what the spent the money in instead of Canó, Cabo actually wins in comparison. Of course a nice post game spread would also be more valuable than Jacob has been.
What a sorry sack he turned out to be...I’m sure that for some convoluted reason the Yanks management had him pegged for 20-25 HR and 40-50 SB per year when they went all pot o’ gold on that contract...
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Post by chiyankee on Nov 2, 2018 17:57:07 GMT -5
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Post by inger on Nov 2, 2018 18:47:16 GMT -5
Never ever will the pay in sports ever be enough... I still think about that classic line from Latrell Sprewell... “I gotta feed my kids”...of course there’s a possibility that there may be 20 or 30 of them spread around the country, I suppose... (: I actually know a fellow that grew up on an orphanage who said that his father sired 42 children with various women... Sort of a “Johnny Babyseed”, if you will... (: |
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Post by rizzuto on Nov 2, 2018 18:58:05 GMT -5
One million dollars per start....
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Post by inger on Nov 2, 2018 19:23:26 GMT -5
One million dollars per start.... More like 1.25 million per since he’s only made 74 starts in the past three years... |
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Post by chiyankee on Nov 2, 2018 22:40:57 GMT -5
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Post by kaybli on Nov 3, 2018 0:14:12 GMT -5
2018-19 Top 50 MLB Free Agents With Predictions
Damn, the top two predictions are pretty crazy:
1. Bryce Harper – Dodgers. Fourteen years, $420MM.
2. Manny Machado – Phillies. Thirteen years, $390MM
If that's the price, I'll pass on both of those.
3. Patrick Corbin – Yankees. Six years, $129MM.
Kinda of steep for Corbin. But what other options do we have?
Other notables:
4. Dallas Keuchel – Nationals. Four years, $82MM.
7. Nathan Eovaldi – Red Sox. Four years, $60MM
9. J.A. Happ – Angels. Three years, $48MM.
11. Andrew McCutchen – Cubs. Three years, $45MM.
14. Charlie Morton – Phillies. Two years, $32MM.
18. Zach Britton – Astros. Three years, $33MM.
19. David Robertson – Mets. Three years, $33MM.
21. Adam Ottavino – Yankees. Three years, $30MM.
31. Daniel Murphy – Angels. Two years, $20MM.
OK, just read the rest...
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Post by pippsheadache on Nov 3, 2018 7:48:55 GMT -5
If this guy is pretty close on most of these, he must have some great sources. We will see.
I agree Corbin is the most attractive FA option for the Yanks, although that is a steep price, especially for a guy who made his bones in the NL West. Maybe Eovaldi is feeling warm and fuzzy about his experience in Boston. Keuchel wouldn't want to shave his beard, so that eliminates him. Not sure I would want Happ if it required a three-year deal. Corbin has been pretty vocal about being a Yankee fan, so maybe with enough $$$ that happens.
I guess the alleged interest in Ottavino is the expectation that Britton and Robertson will go elsewhere. At 6'5" and 220 pounds, it would give the Yanks yet another supertanker for the next bench-clearing brawl.
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Post by chiyankee on Nov 3, 2018 9:29:01 GMT -5
If Nasty Nate stays healthy, the Red Sox will get the better deal for the money than what the Yankees are paying Corbin. Heck, the Yanks should go after both Eovaldi & Corbin, there's room for them.
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Post by inger on Nov 3, 2018 9:56:11 GMT -5
If I were Eovaldi right now, I might rather take a shorter, higher dollar deal and gamble on myself that I can come back two year later and land an even bigger deal...$15 mill will be chump change if he's the real deal...
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Post by inger on Nov 3, 2018 9:58:37 GMT -5
If this guy is pretty close on most of these, he must have some great sources. We will see. I agree Corbin is the most attractive FA option for the Yanks, although that is a steep price, especially for a guy who made his bones in the NL West. Maybe Eovaldi is feeling warm and fuzzy about his experience in Boston. Keuchel wouldn't want to shave his beard, so that eliminates him. Not sure I would want Happ if it required a three-year deal. Corbin has been pretty vocal about being a Yankee fan, so maybe with enough $$$ that happens. I guess the alleged interest in Ottavino is the expectation that Britton and Robertson will go elsewhere. At 6'5" and 220 pounds, it would give the Yanks yet another supertanker for the next bench-clearing brawl. Something tells me that Keuchel has one of those faces where, if he shaved the beard off, we'd all be begging him to grow it back... |
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Post by domeplease on Nov 3, 2018 11:45:48 GMT -5
--11-03-18:: www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/report-yankees-will-explore-re-signing-happ-sabathia/ar-BBPiaWq?ocid=U147DHP WOW; considering re-signing CC. Stupid be Stupid. I guess Retreads need company = Gardner + CC = DROP IN PRODUCTION.
However, that is OK with us. When we travel in our 25-year old plus Ford Van thru-out Baja, we stop at every roadside small flea-markets (that every small village has 7-days a week). We look for Old Wheel-Chairs that we take home & repair than give them out to the Poor who need one.
So, on our next trip we will search for a used wheelchair with extra large seating; fix it up and send to the Yankees...that way, when CC takes the mound they can wheel him out and when he finishes an inning or is pulled, they can wheel him back to the dugout.
--11-03-18: www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/indians-will-listen-to-trade-proposals-on-key-veterans/ar-BBPhH2H?ocid=U147DHP
The most interesting element of this report, undoubtedly, is the possibility of the Indians offering up some of their top-flight pitching talent. Kluber and Carrasco are both excellent pitchers, but they are also signed to highly appealing contracts.
The former, a perennial Cy Young contender, can be controlled through 2021 for as little as $30.5 million (though his 2020 and 2021 options can rise in value based upon his Cy placement).
The latter, who’s also a top-10 starter over the past three seasons, will pitch for just $9.75 million next season and little more in 2020 (his option, too, can be boosted based on the voting).
There’s no specific mention of righty Trevor Bauer, who emerged to take a place alongside his more accomplished rotation mates.
He’s just as plausible a candidate to be moved from an outside perspective, though, given that he’s down to two more years of arbitration control.
Bauer is the most youthful of the three but doesn’t figure to be an extension candidate given his stated preference never to agree to a multi-year deal. Still, he’s projected to earn a bargain $11.6 million for 2019 with one more arb year to go thereafter.
--11-03-18: www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/where-will-mlbs-top-10-free-agents-end-up/ss-BBPicNW?ocid=U147DHP#image=2 Tell me this not TRUE.
Last winter, the Yankees set out to reduce payroll and reset their luxury-tax penalties in presumed anticipation of this year's free-agent class, and they still ended up acquiring Giancarlo Stanton and the $295 million left on his contract.
That was them exercising fiscal restraint. You can imagine what happens, then, when they enter spend mode: they'll sign Harper, the best player available - and perhaps the greatest free agent ever, given his age and pedigree - to a gargantuan contract.
Do the Yankees need Harper - who finished tied for 15th in the majors with a 135 wRC+ last season in what was, by his standard, a down year - to end Boston's hegemony over the American League East?
Probably not.
They won 100 games in 2018, after all, thanks to their ridiculously deep stable of young stars, and they're only losing complimentary pieces to free agency this offseason in J.A. Happ, CC Sabathia, David Robertson, and Neil Walker.
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Post by kaybli on Nov 4, 2018 1:35:00 GMT -5
It's obvious that dome's homepage is msn.com. 
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