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Post by inger on Jan 3, 2019 16:25:39 GMT -5
I’d take .240/.310/.430 with average to slightly above D with glee...
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Post by noetsi on Jan 3, 2019 17:45:55 GMT -5
I think he is a short term pick up until Didi returns. Nothing else. I don't expect us to sign Machado unless he takes a lot less from us than other teams in terms of years or salary. Which I doubt he will.
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Post by greatfatness on Jan 4, 2019 4:47:37 GMT -5
The Blue Jays are on the hook for most of Tulo's contract so he's still getting paid, just not by the Yankees. After thinking about it, I believe the DFA to have been a good strategy by the Jays. Even if Tulo rebounds to a .270/25 season, he was a sunk cost that simply had no place on a rebuilding team. It’s the exact opposite scenario of Ellsbury on the Yankees. I’ve wished often that the Uankees would DFA him so he didn’t block us from getting a more useful player (meaning pretty much any player who is still able to trudge to the plate or stand in the field on occasion...Sunk cost, and he’ll never be worth what he’s paid. Probably a nice guy with the best intentions, but pay him and send him on his way... Who is Ellsbury blocking though? At the moment, nobody on the DL and presumably the Yankees get insurance offset while he’s there. If he comes off the DL, can’t play and Clint Frazier somehow manages to get and stay on the field and is hitting lights out, it is a different story. |
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Post by inger on Jan 4, 2019 10:31:23 GMT -5
Here's the way I see it. Maybe I'm missing something. The insurance offset has been a blessing, so monetarily perhaps the financial side of this thing is not quite as bad as it seems...But let's just say that the Yankees wanted to trade for a certain player...any position on the field...doesn't have to be an OF, but a player is a bit beyond just a marginal player, an important role player...left-handed bullpen specialist for instance. When making any roster decision, they always have to keep in mind that at some point Ellsbury will be coming of the disabled list and a player will need to be demoted to accommodate Ellsbury. Now there are other things that happen and other players that need to be occasionally accommodated on the DL, mind you...but a "semi-permanent" player on the DL would seem to at least have a profound effect on all marginal player decisions with the 40 and 25 man limits being jostled when Jacob re-appears for 2 weeks until he re-injures himself...Maybe that makes no sense, I dunno...Just my take on it...
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Post by greatfatness on Jan 4, 2019 11:01:43 GMT -5
Here's the way I see it. Maybe I'm missing something. The insurance offset has been a blessing, so monetarily perhaps the financial side of this thing is not quite as bad as it seems...But let's just say that the Yankees wanted to trade for a certain player...any position on the field...doesn't have to be an OF, but a player is a bit beyond just a marginal player, an important role player...left-handed bullpen specialist for instance. When making any roster decision, they always have to keep in mind that at some point Ellsbury will be coming of the disabled list and a player will need to be demoted to accommodate Ellsbury. Now there are other things that happen and other players that need to be occasionally accommodated on the DL, mind you...but a "semi-permanent" player on the DL would seem to at least have a profound effect on all marginal player decisions with the 40 and 25 man limits being jostled when Jacob re-appears for 2 weeks until he re-injures himself...Maybe that makes no sense, I dunno...Just my take on it... I hear you. I just don’t think realistically that he would stand in the way of anything if and when he comes off the DL. I think either he gets released then, or he’s productive, or they move him and eat salary. I don’t see him remaining an albatross if he’s really blocking a more useful player, but while he’s on the DL he really isn’t. Unless someone else in Tampa needs the hot tub. |
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Post by inger on Jan 4, 2019 11:04:28 GMT -5
Here's the way I see it. Maybe I'm missing something. The insurance offset has been a blessing, so monetarily perhaps the financial side of this thing is not quite as bad as it seems...But let's just say that the Yankees wanted to trade for a certain player...any position on the field...doesn't have to be an OF, but a player is a bit beyond just a marginal player, an important role player...left-handed bullpen specialist for instance. When making any roster decision, they always have to keep in mind that at some point Ellsbury will be coming of the disabled list and a player will need to be demoted to accommodate Ellsbury. Now there are other things that happen and other players that need to be occasionally accommodated on the DL, mind you...but a "semi-permanent" player on the DL would seem to at least have a profound effect on all marginal player decisions with the 40 and 25 man limits being jostled when Jacob re-appears for 2 weeks until he re-injures himself...Maybe that makes no sense, I dunno...Just my take on it... I hear you. I just don’t think realistically that he would stand in the way of anything if and when he comes off the DL. I think either he gets released then, or he’s productive, or they move him and eat salary. I don’t see him remaining an albatross if he’s really blocking a more useful player, but while he’s on the DL he really isn’t. Unless someone else in Tampa needs the hot tub. Certainly a fresh perspective for me, so I'll take it...It makes more sense than thinking he's banging one of the Steinbrenners girls... |
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Post by greatfatness on Jan 4, 2019 11:18:02 GMT -5
I hear you. I just don’t think realistically that he would stand in the way of anything if and when he comes off the DL. I think either he gets released then, or he’s productive, or they move him and eat salary. I don’t see him remaining an albatross if he’s really blocking a more useful player, but while he’s on the DL he really isn’t. Unless someone else in Tampa needs the hot tub. Certainly a fresh perspective for me, so I'll take it...It makes more sense than thinking he's banging one of the Steinbrenners girls... Even I don’t dislike Ellsbury enough to wish that on him. |
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Post by noetsi on Jan 4, 2019 11:32:30 GMT -5
Will Ellsbury ever actually come off the DL. He and Pavano should get together and talk about their great years with the Yankees
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Post by inger on Jan 4, 2019 11:40:08 GMT -5
Will Ellsbury ever actually come off the DL. He and Pavano should get together and talk about their great years with the Yankees “Our Reclining Chair”, a book by Carl Pavano and Jacob Ellsbury about their view of Yankee Life...including a special section titled “The Day I Played”... |
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Post by noetsi on Jan 4, 2019 18:58:40 GMT -5
Will Ellsbury ever actually come off the DL. He and Pavano should get together and talk about their great years with the Yankees “Our Reclining Chair”, a book by Carl Pavano and Jacob Ellsbury about their view of Yankee Life...including a special section titled “The Day I Played”... They could follow it up with a book by Carl on his miraculous health recovery when he left the Yankees and played on the Twins. Maybe they have better health care in MN than NY  |
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Post by inger on Jan 4, 2019 19:13:27 GMT -5
So now Cashman has come out and stayed tgst the purpose of the Tulo signing was for Tulo to start at SS until Didi returns. A bold statement, but I suppose easily withdrawn if Tulo breaks into 100 pieces in Spring Training. Worst case, we wind up with a SS batting .089 that the manager can’t bench until the player’s heart stops and he’s been declared dead... 💀
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Post by chiyankee on Jan 4, 2019 19:30:05 GMT -5
So now Cashman has come out and stayed tgst the purpose of the Tulo signing was for Tulo to start at SS until Didi returns. A bold statement, but I suppose easily withdrawn if Tulo breaks into 100 pieces in Spring Training. Worst case, we wind up with a SS batting .089 that the manager can’t bench until the player’s heart stops and he’s been declared dead... 💀 Maybe he's trying to drive the price down for Machado? |
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Post by inger on Jan 4, 2019 21:20:08 GMT -5
So now Cashman has come out and stayed tgst the purpose of the Tulo signing was for Tulo to start at SS until Didi returns. A bold statement, but I suppose easily withdrawn if Tulo breaks into 100 pieces in Spring Training. Worst case, we wind up with a SS batting .089 that the manager can’t bench until the player’s heart stops and he’s been declared dead... 💀 Maybe he's trying to drive the price down for Machado? That Cashman. What a little Dickens... (: |
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Post by pippsheadache on Jan 4, 2019 21:36:38 GMT -5
David Robertson reportedly said that the Yankees never even made him an offer. That did surprise me a bit. Maybe they know something we don't.
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Post by inger on Jan 4, 2019 21:56:19 GMT -5
David Robertson reportedly said that the Yankees never even made him an offer. That did surprise me a bit. Maybe they know something we don't. They know he’ll be 34 in 2019 and is at an age where the odds for continuation of top performance for a power pitcher is diminishing rapidly. I’m a big fan, but time catches up with everyone. D-Rob has a marginal speed FB and has made it work with deception of delivery and the combination of a hook that should have ripped every tendon out of his shoulder years ago. When he eventually drops 1-2 MPH, he’ll struggle. I hope he pitches forever. I would have probably been dumb enough to sign him based on sentiment...When Cash fills out those forms on line he fails the “I am not a robot” tests most of the time... While I would love to have had him back, I’m in agreement that we should move on, and would rather have Britton. Have I mentioned I like DeClerc? Of course I have...maybe once, twice, three times a lady or more... |
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