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Post by inger on Oct 3, 2019 23:55:55 GMT -5
ALDS/ vs. Minnesota Twins / Rodney Dobnak, 2-1; 1.59 / 6’ 230 RH 24 years old Could Dobnak be a surprise starter? Kyle Gibson, nor Martin Perez strike fear in anyone. Dobnak was an undrafted free agent a couple years ago, pulled out of an Indy League where he’s surprised with a 2.02 ERA at three MiLB levels. I can’t give a lot of detail, but he’s been hit for a .321 BA by RHH, but has dominated LHH. Only 5 of the 34 hits he’s allowed have gone for extra bases, and he throws strikes. 1seam fastball, touches 96. Yes. One seam. It sinks. A lot. Sinker, touches 90 it sinks. Slider. Mid 80’s. It dives. All of the pitches are getting extreme ground ball results.I would think one of the deciding factors as to how good this guy can get is going to be if he’s really throwing strikes, or has batters chasing. I’m not sure if this report is complete or not. I usually finish reading everything I can find before making these posts, but this was an interesting find. I wanted to make sure I posted it before he suddenly appeared in game one and I hadn’t broken the story. I’m getting like the real press...😂 Is he for real? His first appearance was a 3 inning relief job. He then went to opening. His last three appearances were all legitimate starts in which he went 5-6 innings and had a 1.10 ERA. Whether he starts, relieves, or opens, he’s interesting. Chubby at 6’0, 230. He doesn’t have much experience, so 4 of 5 have stolen on him...So far only one batter has hit a home run... EDIT. Brooks Baseball either does not understand this one-seam baseball or The nerdy-looking Dobnak has revised his grip to a 4-seam grip on the ball. His velo on the pitch is listed on their site at 93. The report I read earlier about the unusual grip was written earlier this season, at a point where Dobnak had made only the one appearance of three innings of relief and had been sent back to the minors... Things get more interesting as Brooks Baseball reports that the slider is getting elevated... |
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Post by kaybli on Oct 4, 2019 1:12:22 GMT -5
ALDS/ vs. Minnesota Twins / Rodney Dobnak, 2-1; 1.59 / 6’ 230 RH 24 years old Could Dobnak be a surprise starter? Kyle Gibson, nor Martin Perez strike fear in anyone. Dobnak was an undrafted free agent a couple years ago, pulled out of an Indy League where he’s surprised with a 2.02 ERA at three MiLB levels. I can’t give a lot of detail, but he’s been hit for a .321 BA by RHH, but has dominated LHH. Only 5 of the 34 hits he’s allowed have gone for extra bases, and he throws strikes. 1seam fastball, touches 96. Yes. One seam. It sinks. A lot. Sinker, touches 90 it sinks. Slider. Mid 80’s. It dives. All of the pitches are getting extreme ground ball results.I would think one of the deciding factors as to how good this guy can get is going to be if he’s really throwing strikes, or has batters chasing. I’m not sure if this report is complete or not. I usually finish reading everything I can find before making these posts, but this was an interesting find. I wanted to make sure I posted it before he suddenly appeared in game one and I hadn’t broken the story. I’m getting like the real press...😂 Is he for real? His first appearance was a 3 inning relief job. He then went to opening. His last three appearances were all legitimate starts in which he went 5-6 innings and had a 1.10 ERA. Whether he starts, relieves, or opens, he’s interesting. Chubby at 6’0, 230. He doesn’t have much experience, so 4 of 5 have stolen on him...So far only one batter has hit a home run... EDIT. Brooks Baseball either does not understand this one-seam baseball or The nerdy-looking Dobnak has revised his grip to a 4-seam grip on the ball. His velo on the pitch is listed on their site at 93. The report I read earlier about the unusual grip was written earlier this season, at a point where Dobnak had made only the one appearance of three innings of relief and had been sent back to the minors... Things get more interesting as Brooks Baseball reports that the slider is getting elevated... Dobnak is definitely a wild card for the series. And what the hell is a one seam fastball? |
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Post by inger on Oct 4, 2019 9:48:35 GMT -5
I’m going to assume a splitter-like grip, but instead of touching no seams, the finger is over one seam. That would allow the fingers to be close together, maintaining velocity?...
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Post by kaybli on Oct 4, 2019 13:11:59 GMT -5
I’m going to assume a splitter-like grip, but instead of touching no seams, the finger is over one seam. That would allow the fingers to be close together, maintaining velocity?...  Sounds reasonable. |
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Post by inger on Oct 4, 2019 13:33:08 GMT -5
I hate that I can’t find a baseball anywhere in the house to grip. So now I’m thinking, which finger would go on the seam? I’d assume the index finger...With or across a seam? When I think about aerodynamics am wanting the ball to sink, then I think maybe with the seam to prevent back spin.
I could throw a spit ball when I was younger, but it really didn’t matter because I didn’t like to pitch. My fingers were too short to throw a legitimate splitter (or forkball as we called them then). But if I wet my fingers I could get a semi-forkball grip and get the ball to give me a bit of arm side “wobble” and a tiny bit of late dive...It was a little more like a knuckleball. I would get the moisture from the back of my sweaty neck... Mostly just messing around with it while playing catch...
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Post by kaybli on Oct 4, 2019 13:49:13 GMT -5
I hate that I can’t find a baseball anywhere in the house to grip. So now I’m thinking, which finger would go on the seam? I’d assume the index finger...With or across a seam? When I think about aerodynamics am wanting the ball to sink, then I think maybe with the seam to prevent back spin. I could throw a spit ball when I was younger, but it really didn’t matter because I didn’t like to pitch. My fingers were too short to throw a legitimate splitter (or forkball as we called them then). But if I wet my fingers I could get a semi-forkball grip and get the ball to give me a bit of arm side “wobble” and a tiny bit of late dive...It was a little more like a knuckleball. I would get the moisture from the back of my sweaty neck... Mostly just messing around with it while playing catch... I bet you throw a nasty gyroball inger? |
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Post by inger on Oct 4, 2019 14:00:18 GMT -5
I hate that I can’t find a baseball anywhere in the house to grip. So now I’m thinking, which finger would go on the seam? I’d assume the index finger...With or across a seam? When I think about aerodynamics am wanting the ball to sink, then I think maybe with the seam to prevent back spin. I could throw a spit ball when I was younger, but it really didn’t matter because I didn’t like to pitch. My fingers were too short to throw a legitimate splitter (or forkball as we called them then). But if I wet my fingers I could get a semi-forkball grip and get the ball to give me a bit of arm side “wobble” and a tiny bit of late dive...It was a little more like a knuckleball. I would get the moisture from the back of my sweaty neck... Mostly just messing around with it while playing catch... I bet you throw a nasty gyroball inger? That’s hilarious because I was just thinking about how this one seam fastball reminded me of the Dice-K gyroball hype. Talk about one of the greatest 15 minutes in MLB history... |
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Post by rizzuto on Oct 4, 2019 14:32:25 GMT -5
I hate that I can’t find a baseball anywhere in the house to grip. So now I’m thinking, which finger would go on the seam? I’d assume the index finger...With or across a seam? When I think about aerodynamics am wanting the ball to sink, then I think maybe with the seam to prevent back spin. I could throw a spit ball when I was younger, but it really didn’t matter because I didn’t like to pitch. My fingers were too short to throw a legitimate splitter (or forkball as we called them then). But if I wet my fingers I could get a semi-forkball grip and get the ball to give me a bit of arm side “wobble” and a tiny bit of late dive...It was a little more like a knuckleball. I would get the moisture from the back of my sweaty neck... Mostly just messing around with it while playing catch... All I wanted to do was pitch. Other than batting, nothing was more fun on a baseball field! |
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Post by kaybli on Oct 5, 2019 3:47:24 GMT -5
ALDS/ vs. Minnesota Twins / Rodney Dobnak, 2-1; 1.59 / 6’ 230 RH 24 years old Could Dobnak be a surprise starter? Kyle Gibson, nor Martin Perez strike fear in anyone. Dobnak was an undrafted free agent a couple years ago, pulled out of an Indy League where he’s surprised with a 2.02 ERA at three MiLB levels. I can’t give a lot of detail, but he’s been hit for a .321 BA by RHH, but has dominated LHH. Only 5 of the 34 hits he’s allowed have gone for extra bases, and he throws strikes. 1seam fastball, touches 96. Yes. One seam. It sinks. A lot. Sinker, touches 90 it sinks. Slider. Mid 80’s. It dives. All of the pitches are getting extreme ground ball results.I would think one of the deciding factors as to how good this guy can get is going to be if he’s really throwing strikes, or has batters chasing. I’m not sure if this report is complete or not. I usually finish reading everything I can find before making these posts, but this was an interesting find. I wanted to make sure I posted it before he suddenly appeared in game one and I hadn’t broken the story. I’m getting like the real press...😂 Is he for real? His first appearance was a 3 inning relief job. He then went to opening. His last three appearances were all legitimate starts in which he went 5-6 innings and had a 1.10 ERA. Whether he starts, relieves, or opens, he’s interesting. Chubby at 6’0, 230. He doesn’t have much experience, so 4 of 5 have stolen on him...So far only one batter has hit a home run... EDIT. Brooks Baseball either does not understand this one-seam baseball or The nerdy-looking Dobnak has revised his grip to a 4-seam grip on the ball. His velo on the pitch is listed on their site at 93. The report I read earlier about the unusual grip was written earlier this season, at a point where Dobnak had made only the one appearance of three innings of relief and had been sent back to the minors... Things get more interesting as Brooks Baseball reports that the slider is getting elevated... Reading up on this so it looks like I know what I'm talking about when I go to the stadium.  |
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Post by kaybli on Oct 7, 2019 16:49:06 GMT -5
7/24 vs. Minnesota Twins / Jake Odorizzi 11-4; 3.18 Odorizzi is 29 years old and has had an up and down career. He put in a lot of work this past winter and his newfound success seems to be based on having added an extra mile per hour or so to his still-below-average velocity fastball. He uses the fastball 57% of the time, though he also is said to have a nearly imperceptibly different “sinker” that is part of that mix. It comes in at 92-93, sometimes 90-91 (is that the sinker?). Both(?) get swings and misses due to placement and movement. Different sources report this pitch different ways. This pitch(es?) is worked up in the zone. There is a cutter that is only 86 MPH and is the only pitch in the arsenal that tends to result in ground balls. It’s offered 20% of the time, often when looking for a DP. He throws a relatively ineffective splitter about 15% of the time that unlike other splitters tends to get flyballs. It acts somewhat more like a changeup to hitters, but the swings and misses are rare. Finally, The is a greatly reduced usage curveball with sharp downward bite. Again, this gets hit in the air more often than not. There used to be reports of a nasty slider that was hard to control. Like the sinker, it may still be in the repertoire and being mis-identified as a sinker or splitter or curve or...get it?... His stuff is murderous on RHH. Best to get some lefty bats in the lineup tonight. He tends to scuffle a bit in the first inning, with a 1.51 WHIP. His command is off until he finds his rhythm. He then tends to remain difficult to get on base against until about the sixth inning. Is the “new” Odorizzi for real? Tonight may be interesting in that Jake has been knocked around to a 6+ ERA in his last six starts. Has the league figured out what made him so successful earlier this year? His once 1.94 ERA is still nice at 3.18, but his recent lack of success hints regression to the mean... [ Bump... Since the last time the Yanks faced Odorizzi he has righted the ship and finished the season strongly. He ended the year at 15-7; 3.51 by pitching to an ERA of about 3.00 for the last two months... BUMP |
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Post by greatfatness on Oct 7, 2019 16:58:19 GMT -5
[ Bump... Since the last time the Yanks faced Odorizzi he has righted the ship and finished the season strongly. He ended the year at 15-7; 3.51 by pitching to an ERA of about 3.00 for the last two months... BUMP What about his NEW TRICKS from THE TOP SECRET PLAN designed to SLAY THE DRAGON!?!?!? |
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Post by kaybli on Oct 7, 2019 17:07:34 GMT -5
What about his NEW TRICKS from THE TOP SECRET PLAN designed to SLAY THE DRAGON!?!?!?  |
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Post by sierchio on Oct 7, 2019 17:29:17 GMT -5
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Post by kaybli on Oct 7, 2019 17:43:14 GMT -5
Didn't work so well for Dobnak did it?  |
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Post by inger on Oct 7, 2019 19:41:45 GMT -5
Didn't work so well for Dobnak did it? That’s what the photo of Dobnak looked like he was doing...I can see where the aerodynamics may be slightly different with that grip, but that’s providing you’re not making just your 4th MLB start in a playoff game in Yankee Stadium, and in a playoff game to boot...Then you might just wind up squeezing the ball a little tighter, and hanging on to the curveball just a bit longer, and...You know... |
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Sounds reasonable. 
