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Post by kaybli on Jun 21, 2018 21:08:04 GMT -5
This is great for the history of America through the people's perspective. A classic:
Ill respectfully disagree on this one (surely unsurprisingly). This is far-left propaganda. And what principles of the book do you disagree with? |
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Post by sierchio on Jun 21, 2018 21:54:33 GMT -5
I need to read more books and study American history more. I know more about early Western Civilization history than American History. As for you Kaybli.. I read Fear and Loathing like 3 times in High School... I lived that book... I mean, loved that book lol [img src="//storage.proboards.com/6828121/images/udcwFqPimnXDtjoTmoVL.gif" class="smile" alt="  "]
You should read Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail '72:
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Post by sierchio on Jun 21, 2018 22:03:11 GMT -5
Not to interrupt the book discussion but I was thinking about Ichiro's career and as a Mariner I only saw him play against the Yankees until he was a Yankee but I remember at least twice in pinstripes that he pulled off a deke move. Actually I just googled it and couldn't find it from time with Yankees... Found it with behind Marlins though. youtu.be/-2dEyjARiMgSo I guess I answered my own question... It was a trick Ichiro used a lot throughout his career. Anyone know of any other players that deke out the offense like this? |
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Post by kaybli on Jun 21, 2018 22:21:50 GMT -5
Not to interrupt the book discussion but I was thinking about Ichiro's career and as a Mariner I only saw him play against the Yankees until he was a Yankee but I remember at least twice in pinstripes that he pulled off a deke move. Actually I just googled it and couldn't find it from time with Yankees... Found it with behind Marlins though. youtu.be/-2dEyjARiMgSo I guess I answered my own question... It was a trick Ichiro used a lot throughout his career. Anyone know of any other players that deke out the offense like this? There's a couple of outfield fake outs in here:
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Post by rizzuto on Jun 21, 2018 22:51:49 GMT -5
This is great for the history of America through the people's perspective. A classic:
Ill respectfully disagree on this one (surely unsurprisingly). This is far-left propaganda. Have you read it? |
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Post by sierchio on Jun 22, 2018 0:00:47 GMT -5
Lol. I remember that Jeter play
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Post by sierchio on Jul 4, 2018 7:49:45 GMT -5
So Andujar is currently on pace for about 25 homers and 50 doubles to go along with 40 walks. Adrian Beltre 's first 3 years of his career he averaged (per 162) 30 doubles 20 homers 60 walks (58really) . His slash of 272/344/438/782. 103ops+ isn't too far off Andujars 289/320/519/839 .123ops+
I'm changing my comp from Starlin Castro to Adrian Beltre .
Don't look too much into this post. I'm just bored aand think comps are really fun even though i KNOW they're pointless. I really like comparing players. And I think I underrated Andujar in the past
Edit. Another good comp might be Garret Anderson
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Post by sierchio on Jul 4, 2018 7:50:34 GMT -5
Who else finishes off their swing like Andujar
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Post by sierchio on Jul 4, 2018 7:58:05 GMT -5
Brian Roberts hit 50+ doubles 3 times in his career n stole 50 bags once. Never thought of him as a 50 doubles guy
edit . Carlos Delgado is a HOFer
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Post by inger on Jul 4, 2018 22:44:23 GMT -5
I mentioned the improbability of the 1927 Yankees ever losing a game in the game thread, so it got me to thinking...I know we all know that Babe Ruth hit 60 HR, and that no other TEAM in the league hit more than 56 that year. Here are a few other amazing stats:
Ruth's 60 HR were 1st in the league, Gehrig was second with 47...and Lazzeri was third with 18. Bob Meusel was 12th with 9, Pat Collins 13th with 8, and Earl Combs was 15th with 6.
The 125 combined HR by the top three Yankee HR hitter was more than twice that of second place (in HRs) Philadelphia (56).
The Yankees also led the league in triples and were second in doubles.
Earl Combs led the league in base hits, Gehrig was 2nd and Ruth was 6th.
Ruth, Gehrig and Combs were 1-2-3 in the league in runs scored.
Gehrig led the league in doubles and Meusel was 5th.
Combs and Gehrig were 1-2 in triples. (Koenig also had double figures in triples).
Eight players drove in 100 runs in the AL. The top two were Ruth and Gehrig, 7 and 8 were Meusel and Lazzeri.
Meusel and Lazzeri finished 2-3 in SB in the AL.
Ruth and Gehrig finished 1-2 in BB, with Max Bishop of Philadelphia in third as the only other player in the AL with 100+ BB.
Ruth, Gehrig, Meusel, and Lazzeri finished 1-2-3-4 in strike outs.
Four of the top eight BAs in the AL belonged to NY Yankees (all .337 or higher). Gehrig's .373 was 2nd in the league to Harry Heilmann.
Three of the top 6 in OBP were Yankees, led by Ruth and Gehrig in 1st and 3rd.
Only eight AL players slugged .500 or better. Four of them were Yankees. Ruth and Gehrig slugged .772 and .765 respectively. Heilmann was at .616 in third.
Ruth and Gehrig were 1-2 in OPS and OPS + by a large margin over anyone else. Harry Heilman was a distant third in both.
The Yankees 127 OPS+ was the only OPS above 100 in the AL because of the Yankee domination on offense.
Oddly, in spite of the HR's the Yankees were HBP less than any other team in the league with a team total of 22. (the average was 33 per team).
Yankee hitters led the AL in LOB...
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Post by inger on Jul 4, 2018 22:57:35 GMT -5
Now for some pitching stats, bearing in mind that the Yankees had the advantage of not having to pitch vs. themselves.
The team was 1st in ERA in the AL.
Waite Hoyt's 21 wins led a brigade of 4 pitchers with 18 or more wins. Herb Pennock (19-8), led the team in losses.
In an absolutely amazing dominance, the Yankees had the top 5 pitchers in winning pct in the AL, and six of the top seven. Bump Hadley of Washington, who was sixth, would later league the league (1936) with the Yankees (14-4).
The top three and 4 of the top eight ERAs in the league belonged to Yankees.
Wilcy Moore, who posted a 19-7 record did so in 12 starts and 38 relief appearances. Moore's 13 saves would have led the league if the stat were tracked back then.
No Yankee pitcher had more than 86 K's. Waite Hoyt posted that number to finish 7th in the league...
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Post by kaybli on Jul 5, 2018 2:32:48 GMT -5
Great stats on the 1927 team, inger!  |
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Post by inger on Jul 5, 2018 9:39:13 GMT -5
One takeaway for me was the absolute dominance per individual player(s). That team played to a 110-44 record. So even with that amount of dominance, with a disruptive offense that on one else in the league could come close to matching and very solid pitching they didn't win in Harlem Globetrotter fashion. They had to play good baseball to win, and if the opponent had a starting pitcher that was "on", or if they made an error at the wrong time they still paid for it with the occasional loss. The Red Sox and Yankees are both experiencing excellent seasons, yet both have had a slump. In one slump, the Yankees let the Red Sox gain a massive early lead, in the other the Red Sox allowed the Yankees to catch up.
My examination of the '27 team was based on two things...one was just my normal curiosity...the other was to see if we could learn anything from history that might tell us something about the way this season will go...
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Post by utahyank on Jul 5, 2018 12:33:39 GMT -5
nice work, inger.....yeah, baseball is different than basketball or football where the vastly better team wins big.....it's why a winning percentage of .600 is darn good....which makes it great, I think.....
If we were posting then, we would be stressing about having to face Walter Johnson in an upcoming series, or one of the other good pitchers of that day......
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Post by kaybli on Jul 5, 2018 13:49:06 GMT -5
One takeaway for me was the absolute dominance per individual player(s). That team played to a 110-44 record. So even with that amount of dominance, with a disruptive offense that on one else in the league could come close to matching and very solid pitching they didn't win in Harlem Globetrotter fashion. They had to play good baseball to win, and if the opponent had a starting pitcher that was "on", or if they made an error at the wrong time they still paid for it with the occasional loss. The Red Sox and Yankees are both experiencing excellent seasons, yet both have had a slump. In one slump, the Yankees let the Red Sox gain a massive early lead, in the other the Red Sox allowed the Yankees to catch up. My examination of the '27 team was based on two things...one was just my normal curiosity...the other was to see if we could learn anything from history that might tell us something about the way this season will go... Babe Ruth had a 1.258 OPS (225 OPS+) and Lou Gehrig had a 1.240 OPS (220 OPS+) that year. Wow. |
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