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Post by chiyankee on Oct 16, 2023 18:34:08 GMT -5
By the way, Kay. No deep dish this time, but we did have some good Detroit style pizza. It was good and a lot less filling than Chicago style.
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Post by pippsheadache on Oct 16, 2023 18:52:47 GMT -5
Congratulations to chiyankee on completing the Detroit marathon yesterday! You always amaze us Chi! You are incredible. Hope you had a big deep dish pizza afterwards! Thanks everyone! This was a tough one because it was so windy. I think Detroit, not Chicago is the windy city! Still it was fun because we ran into Canada in back, so running in two countries in one run was pretty cool. I don't know if any of you have been to Detroit, but there's a one mile long incline ramp onto the Ambassador Bridge that crosses the Detroit River and enters into Canada. Not an easy trip for runners! ![]() How did they arrange the border business Chi? Even going Canada/US you have to show a passport these days. I guess there's a runner's exemption. I went across that bridge several times. Under normal conditions you can't even walk across. I know because I tried! As a hockey fan you might be familiar with the Bob Probert Memorial Tunnel from Detroit to Windsor. That's where he was busted for whatever drug he was using at the time. |
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Post by rizzuto on Oct 16, 2023 19:29:57 GMT -5
Thanks everyone! This was a tough one because it was so windy. I think Detroit, not Chicago is the windy city! Still it was fun because we ran into Canada in back, so running in two countries in one run was pretty cool. I don't know if any of you have been to Detroit, but there's a one mile long incline ramp onto the Ambassador Bridge that crosses the Detroit River and enters into Canada. Not an easy trip for runners! ![]() How did they arrange the border business Chi? Even going Canada/US you have to show a passport these days. I guess there's a runner's exemption. I went across that bridge several times. Under normal conditions you can't even walk across. I know because I tried! As a hockey fan you might be familiar with the Bob Probert Memorial Tunnel from Detroit to Windsor. That's where he was busted for whatever drug he was using at the time. I wondered the same thing. Maybe Chi has his passport tattooed in a visible spot? Or, jogging in place until they stamp your documents? |
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Post by chiyankee on Oct 16, 2023 19:51:25 GMT -5
Thanks everyone! This was a tough one because it was so windy. I think Detroit, not Chicago is the windy city! Still it was fun because we ran into Canada in back, so running in two countries in one run was pretty cool. I don't know if any of you have been to Detroit, but there's a one mile long incline ramp onto the Ambassador Bridge that crosses the Detroit River and enters into Canada. Not an easy trip for runners! ![]() How did they arrange the border business Chi? Even going Canada/US you have to show a passport these days. I guess there's a runner's exemption. I went across that bridge several times. Under normal conditions you can't even walk across. I know because I tried! As a hockey fan you might be familiar with the Bob Probert Memorial Tunnel from Detroit to Windsor. That's where he was busted for whatever drug he was using at the time. I had to show my passport at the Expo on Saturday to get my bib. When we approached the bridge during the race, there were Canadian Border Patrol officers all over the place and if your bib wasn't clearly visible, they pulled you aside and asked for proper documents. I had my passport in a ziploc bag and tucked in my utility belt that I run really long races with, but I had no troubles running through. I am familiar with the tunnel because we ran through the tunnel to get back to the USA side. The tunnel is about a mile long and it was really hot in there, I thought I was in a sauna. As soon as you depart the tunnel and are back outside, the cool Detroit air smacks you right in the face. It was only in the mid 40's, so it was a strange feeling. |
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Post by pippsheadache on Oct 16, 2023 20:00:55 GMT -5
How did they arrange the border business Chi? Even going Canada/US you have to show a passport these days. I guess there's a runner's exemption. I went across that bridge several times. Under normal conditions you can't even walk across. I know because I tried! As a hockey fan you might be familiar with the Bob Probert Memorial Tunnel from Detroit to Windsor. That's where he was busted for whatever drug he was using at the time. I had to show my passport at the Expo on Saturday to get my bib. When we approached the bridge during the race, there were Canadian Border Patrol officers all over the place and if your bib wasn't clearly visible, they pulled you aside and asked for proper documents. I had my passport in a ziploc bag and tucked in my utility belt that I run really long races with, but I had no troubles running through. I am familiar with the tunnel because we ran through the tunnel to get back to the USA side. The tunnel is about a mile long and it was really hot in there, I thought I was in a sauna. As soon as you depart the tunnel and are back outside, the cool Detroit air smacks you right in the face. It was only in the mid 40's, so it was a strange feeling. Very nice Chi. My nephew was in Detroit about a month ago and he said the city was really showing signs of revival. Of course it had fallen to a very low state, and pretty much had no way to go but up. Any chance you might run in Philly or NYC? |
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Post by chiyankee on Oct 16, 2023 20:18:19 GMT -5
I had to show my passport at the Expo on Saturday to get my bib. When we approached the bridge during the race, there were Canadian Border Patrol officers all over the place and if your bib wasn't clearly visible, they pulled you aside and asked for proper documents. I had my passport in a ziploc bag and tucked in my utility belt that I run really long races with, but I had no troubles running through. I am familiar with the tunnel because we ran through the tunnel to get back to the USA side. The tunnel is about a mile long and it was really hot in there, I thought I was in a sauna. As soon as you depart the tunnel and are back outside, the cool Detroit air smacks you right in the face. It was only in the mid 40's, so it was a strange feeling. Very nice Chi. My nephew was in Detroit about a month ago and he said the city was really showing signs of revival. Of course it had fallen to a very low state, and pretty much had no way to go but up. Any chance you might run in Philly or NYC? I thought most of the city was nice and I ran through a lot of neighborhoods, although I imagine we skipped some of the rougher ones. I give the city credit, the races were well organized and there were a lot of volunteers to help out. I'd love to run the NYC marathon, hopefully I can do it before I'm done with this stuff. Philly would be nice too, since I could see my parents during the trip. |
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Post by kaybli on Oct 16, 2023 21:02:32 GMT -5
By the way, Kay. No deep dish this time, but we did have some good Detroit style pizza. It was good and a lot less filling than Chicago style. You deserved it for sure! |
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Post by inger on Oct 24, 2023 11:49:06 GMT -5
Random heavy thought of the day:
According to quantum mechanics the universe does not exist unless it is observed. So if there were no animals or humans it would cease to exist…
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Post by inger on Oct 30, 2023 8:54:53 GMT -5
Ah, those pesky DP’s. What are the odds?
in the 2023 regular season: there were 34099 plate appearances with a man on first and <2 outs. There were 6 intentional walks, so our baseline is 34093 plate appearances. There were 3466 GIDP’s in those PA’s, so if you want to know whether a randomly chosen PA in that situation produced at GIDP, the chances of it are 10.2%, which is actually a bit higher than I’d have thought.
What about that variability over time? Let’s look at the 1963 MLB numbers: 22386 PA - 40 IBB (remember, pitchers were batting then) leaves 22346. 2245 GIDPs are 10.0%, so very slightly less...
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Post by BillyBones on Oct 30, 2023 22:21:13 GMT -5
Hope my memory does not fail too badly here. I believe the Angels were an expansion team in 1961, and actually were competitive in their first years. I was surprised that they were able somehow to get a decent squad on the field. I used to get radio feed through the Navy and so I listened to most of their games. Dean Chance was quite good, and Bo Belinsky was mercurial and sometimes good. I cant remember if Fergosi was there in 61, I think Rick Reichart was there. They had a good manager, and were easy to root for as a bunch of upstarts. Does anyone else remember them, and can comment on their early successes?
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Post by pippsheadache on Oct 31, 2023 5:37:06 GMT -5
Hope my memory does not fail too badly here. I believe the Angels were an expansion team in 1961, and actually were competitive in their first years. I was surprised that they were able somehow to get a decent squad on the field. I used to get radio feed through the Navy and so I listened to most of their games. Dean Chance was quite good, and Bo Belinsky was mercurial and sometimes good. I cant remember if Fergosi was there in 61, I think Rick Reichart was there. They had a good manager, and were easy to root for as a bunch of upstarts. Does anyone else remember them, and can comment on their early successes? Great to see you back on here BillyBones. And thanks for raising issues from our way-back era! Yes, the Angels got off to a fast start for an expansion team, mainly because they focused on veterans with a track record. If you recall, after the 1960 season the Washington Senators moved to Minnesota. When the AL got the jump on the NL by adding two teams to go to a 10-team league, it added a "new" Senators team and the Angels, placed in the rapidly growing LA market. That first Angels team finished eighth, ahead of the new Senators and the well-established Athletics. In fact they were only a half-game behind the "old" Senators, now the Minnesota Twins. It was the 62 Angels who were the real surprise, staying in the pennant race until mid-September and finishing third with a record of 86-76. I remember being ticked off because the first two picks of the expansion draft were Yankees -- Eli Grba by the Angels and Bobby Shantz by the Senators. Imagine being angry for losing Eli Grba! The blessed stupidity of youth. Anyway there were a lot of familiar names on that first Angels team -- Eddie Yost, Albie Pearson, Leon Wagner, Ted Kluszewski, Steve Bilko -- and an awful lot of Yankees in addition to Grba -- Bob Cerv, Duke Maas, Ryne Duren, Johnny James, Ken Hunt and Mick's buddy Fritzie Brickell. The manager was Bill Rigney, who had managed the Giants for five years previously. Yes, Jim Fregosi (from Boston) and Dean Chance (from Baltimore) played a handful of games that first season, but as you know went on to some success later. Chance won the Cy Young Award in 65 for the Twins and Fregosi was a talented SS who years later was infamously traded to the Mets for Nolan Ryan. Ken McBride from the White Sox was their best starting pitcher and if memory serves their first All Star pick. They also had a second baseman named Billy Moran who was an early All Star pick. Chance's fellow carouser Bo Belinsky came along in 62, bringing with him the likes of Mamie Van Doren and Tina Louise. Rick Reichardt, enormously skilled in both baseball and football at Wisconsin, became baseball's highest-paid bonus baby in 1964. It's often claimed that the bidding for Reichardt got the owners to establish the draft the next year, with Rick Monday of Arizona State the first-ever draft selection. That first year the Angels played their home games at Wrigley Field in South Central Los Angeles. It had been the home of the Pacific Coast League Angels for many years. It was the stadium used for the "Home Run Derby" TV show of sacred memory. They played their next three seasons as tenants at Dodger Stadium before getting their own stadium in Anaheim. Rick Reichardt hit the first HR there. He was having a decent career when a kidney ailment caused him to have a kidney removed and although he still had a few more respectable years he never achieved the stardom predicted for him. Thanks for generating these recollections BillyBones. You need to drop in more often. |
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Post by inger on Oct 31, 2023 8:36:00 GMT -5
Hope my memory does not fail too badly here. I believe the Angels were an expansion team in 1961, and actually were competitive in their first years. I was surprised that they were able somehow to get a decent squad on the field. I used to get radio feed through the Navy and so I listened to most of their games. Dean Chance was quite good, and Bo Belinsky was mercurial and sometimes good. I cant remember if Fergosi was there in 61, I think Rick Reichart was there. They had a good manager, and were easy to root for as a bunch of upstarts. Does anyone else remember them, and can comment on their early successes? As per the usual, Pippsheadache has chimed in with his flawless memory that I envy. I do add the there were “warning signs” of how good the Angels might be in ‘61, as a few players even appeared on the leader board. Albie Pearson was fourth in OBP at .420. Leon Wagner was eighth in home runs (28) and slugging (.517) and ninth in OPS at .865. Ken McBride was fifth in strikeouts (180) and was third in the league in WAR for pitchers at 5.2, though nobody would know what that meant in 1961. Of course that was the season they played in the bandbox Wrigley Field in LA that made Wrigley Field in Chicago look like the Grand Canyon. I recall Leon Wagner, a big offensive threat who was a defensive negative had a clothing store and used the slogan, “Get your glad rags from Daddy-Wags. In 62 Belinsky had that early season no-hitter and stated the year at 5-0 before only going 5-11 the remainder of the season…and in fact only 23-51 for the rest of his career. He also toted Ann-Margret at his side for a while. Perhaps the most perfect woman (in flesh, don’t want to knock Eve nor Mother Teresa here) ever on the earth. Yow! … |
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Post by kaybli on Oct 31, 2023 9:00:06 GMT -5
Hope my memory does not fail too badly here. I believe the Angels were an expansion team in 1961, and actually were competitive in their first years. I was surprised that they were able somehow to get a decent squad on the field. I used to get radio feed through the Navy and so I listened to most of their games. Dean Chance was quite good, and Bo Belinsky was mercurial and sometimes good. I cant remember if Fergosi was there in 61, I think Rick Reichart was there. They had a good manager, and were easy to root for as a bunch of upstarts. Does anyone else remember them, and can comment on their early successes? Great to see you back on here BillyBones. And thanks for raising issues from our way-back era! Yes, the Angels got off to a fast start for an expansion team, mainly because they focused on veterans with a track record. If you recall, after the 1960 season the Washington Senators moved to Minnesota. When the AL got the jump on the NL by adding two teams to go to a 10-team league, it added a "new" Senators team and the Angels, placed in the rapidly growing LA market. That first Angels team finished eighth, ahead of the new Senators and the well-established Athletics. In fact they were only a half-game behind the "old" Senators, now the Minnesota Twins. It was the 62 Angels who were the real surprise, staying in the pennant race until mid-September and finishing third with a record of 86-76. I remember being ticked off because the first two picks of the expansion draft were Yankees -- Eli Grba by the Angels and Bobby Shantz by the Senators. Imagine being angry for losing Eli Grba! The blessed stupidity of youth. Anyway there were a lot of familiar names on that first Angels team -- Eddie Yost, Albie Pearson, Leon Wagner, Ted Kluszewski, Steve Bilko -- and an awful lot of Yankees in addition to Grba -- Bob Cerv, Duke Maas, Ryne Duren, Johnny James, Ken Hunt and Mick's buddy Fritzie Brickell. The manager was Bill Rigney, who had managed the Giants for five years previously. Yes, Jim Fregosi (from Boston) and Dean Chance (from Baltimore) played a handful of games that first season, but as you know went on to some success later. Chance won the Cy Young Award in 65 for the Twins and Fregosi was a talented SS who years later was infamously traded to the Mets for Nolan Ryan. Ken McBride from the White Sox was their best starting pitcher and if memory serves their first All Star pick. They also had a second baseman named Billy Moran who was an early All Star pick. Chance's fellow carouser Bo Belinsky came along in 62, bringing with him the likes of Mamie Van Doren and Tina Louise. Rick Reichardt, enormously skilled in both baseball and football at Wisconsin, became baseball's highest-paid bonus baby in 1964. It's often claimed that the bidding for Reichardt got the owners to establish the draft the next year, with Rick Monday of Arizona State the first-ever draft selection. That first year the Angels played their home games at Wrigley Field in South Central Los Angeles. It had been the home of the Pacific Coast League Angels for many years. It was the stadium used for the "Home Run Derby" TV show of sacred memory. They played their next three seasons as tenants at Dodger Stadium before getting their own stadium in Anaheim. Rick Reichardt hit the first HR there. He was having a decent career when a kidney ailment caused him to have a kidney removed and although he still had a few more respectable years he never achieved the stardom predicted for him. Thanks for generating these recollections BillyBones. You need to drop in more often. Thanks pipps! Great recollection! And thanks to inger too! |
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Post by inger on Oct 31, 2023 9:12:13 GMT -5
Great to see you back on here BillyBones. And thanks for raising issues from our way-back era! Yes, the Angels got off to a fast start for an expansion team, mainly because they focused on veterans with a track record. If you recall, after the 1960 season the Washington Senators moved to Minnesota. When the AL got the jump on the NL by adding two teams to go to a 10-team league, it added a "new" Senators team and the Angels, placed in the rapidly growing LA market. That first Angels team finished eighth, ahead of the new Senators and the well-established Athletics. In fact they were only a half-game behind the "old" Senators, now the Minnesota Twins. It was the 62 Angels who were the real surprise, staying in the pennant race until mid-September and finishing third with a record of 86-76. I remember being ticked off because the first two picks of the expansion draft were Yankees -- Eli Grba by the Angels and Bobby Shantz by the Senators. Imagine being angry for losing Eli Grba! The blessed stupidity of youth. Anyway there were a lot of familiar names on that first Angels team -- Eddie Yost, Albie Pearson, Leon Wagner, Ted Kluszewski, Steve Bilko -- and an awful lot of Yankees in addition to Grba -- Bob Cerv, Duke Maas, Ryne Duren, Johnny James, Ken Hunt and Mick's buddy Fritzie Brickell. The manager was Bill Rigney, who had managed the Giants for five years previously. Yes, Jim Fregosi (from Boston) and Dean Chance (from Baltimore) played a handful of games that first season, but as you know went on to some success later. Chance won the Cy Young Award in 65 for the Twins and Fregosi was a talented SS who years later was infamously traded to the Mets for Nolan Ryan. Ken McBride from the White Sox was their best starting pitcher and if memory serves their first All Star pick. They also had a second baseman named Billy Moran who was an early All Star pick. Chance's fellow carouser Bo Belinsky came along in 62, bringing with him the likes of Mamie Van Doren and Tina Louise. Rick Reichardt, enormously skilled in both baseball and football at Wisconsin, became baseball's highest-paid bonus baby in 1964. It's often claimed that the bidding for Reichardt got the owners to establish the draft the next year, with Rick Monday of Arizona State the first-ever draft selection. That first year the Angels played their home games at Wrigley Field in South Central Los Angeles. It had been the home of the Pacific Coast League Angels for many years. It was the stadium used for the "Home Run Derby" TV show of sacred memory. They played their next three seasons as tenants at Dodger Stadium before getting their own stadium in Anaheim. Rick Reichardt hit the first HR there. He was having a decent career when a kidney ailment caused him to have a kidney removed and although he still had a few more respectable years he never achieved the stardom predicted for him. Thanks for generating these recollections BillyBones. You need to drop in more often. Thanks pipps! Great recollection! And thanks to inger too! Too? Just too? Geez, my standing around here is crap… 😂 |
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Post by kaybli on Oct 31, 2023 9:17:29 GMT -5
Thanks pipps! Great recollection! And thanks to inger too! Too? Just too? Geez, my standing around here is crap… 😂  |
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