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Post by inger on Feb 4, 2020 23:31:25 GMT -5
Yes, true, we must be content with him leaving the AL. Although we will miss Price in the AL East, lol. Yeah. Price was good for an extra 10-15 runs for us compared to a replacement level starter. If we were Pedro’s daddy, we’re Price Great-Great-Grandaddy... But, bye, Mookie. Have fun in the NL! Have a nice nap if you see us in the WS!... |
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Post by kaybli on Feb 5, 2020 5:04:02 GMT -5
Although we will miss Price in the AL East, lol. Yeah. Price was good for an extra 10-15 runs for us compared to a replacement level starter. If we were Pedro’s daddy, we’re Price Great-Great-Grandaddy... But, bye, Mookie. Have fun in the NL! Have a nice nap if you see us in the WS!... See ya Mookie! Time to finally win a Gold Glove in RF!
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Post by kaybli on Feb 5, 2020 10:19:13 GMT -5
Just so there's no confusion:
Also Red Sox are paying half of the remaining three years 96 million left on Price's contract.
All in all I'd say it's a pretty sad day in Boston! Which makes me happy.
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Post by greatfatness on Feb 5, 2020 11:02:33 GMT -5
Just so there's no confusion:
Also Red Sox are paying half of the remaining three years 96 million left on Price's contract.
All in all I'd say it's a pretty sad day in Boston! Which makes me happy.
Good deal for LA. If I were a Sox fan I would be furious. Purely a salary dump without regard to how it helps the team on the field. The only reason to do this now is to reduce payroll. Should be lots of inexpensive tickets available at Fenway on the secondary market which is good news for me. |
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Post by Renfield on Feb 5, 2020 12:20:48 GMT -5
Clearly a salary dump (although their still stuck with half of Price's salary). Good news for those who desire cheap tickets to the din of iniquity that is Fenway Park. I'm hoping for Oriole-like performance on the field.
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Post by inger on Feb 5, 2020 14:12:52 GMT -5
Graterol is a real wild card. If that sinker turns into a stinker, the Sox are screwed. Verdugo has the appearance of a decent hitter, and seems to be a nice fielder. He’s probably at least the equal of Tauchman...
But Graterol could really become a special pitcher. This was not necessarily as much of a give away as it first appears. Check back in a couple of years and let’s see what’s happening...
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Post by pippsheadache on Feb 5, 2020 14:44:12 GMT -5
I think the Red Sox dumping Betts would be pretty much like the Yankees dumping Judge in his free agent year. I can't imagine Boston fans are happy with this deal, although I am too preoccupied to check their sites to see the reaction.
Verdugo does indeed look like he could be a nice player, but it seems highly unlikely that he will ever be comparable to Betts. Betts is clearly among the top handful of position players in the majors, although his numbers may take a bit of a hit playing half his games in Dodger Stadium.
The pitching prospect looks pretty impressive. Still, there is so much of that out there. Will he even be close to replacement value for Price, despite Price's struggles against the Yankees? Maybe, but the odds are agsinst it.
I do hope Mookie goes FA on the Dodgers after the season, as long as he doesn't go back to Boston.
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Post by inger on Feb 5, 2020 15:00:01 GMT -5
Betts had a strange season in 2019, in my opinion. It was strange because it was so “normal”. He fell off from his monstrous 2018 campaign, yet it was a season during which we saw many players launching and unusual number of HRs because of a baseball that was acting differently.
The numbers Betts put up were more like the couple of seasons prior to his monster 2018. I’m not sure what that means for his future production, nor if it means anything at all, but it’s an odd observation.
Was he unmotivated because the team was not up to 2018 standards?
Playing with some minor injury? He also lopped about 1/2 off his SB production.
Unhappy, either in Boston or with some personal issue?
Without the juiced ball, might he have had a noticeable reduction in performance?
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Post by pippsheadache on Feb 5, 2020 15:00:51 GMT -5
The Dodgers have some serious sticks now with Betts, Bellinger, a re-emerging Seager plus Turner and Muncy and probably other guys I am forgetting. It's a solid core, especially if Lux is what he's cracked up to be.
I do wonder about the starting pitching. By losing Ryu, Maeda and Hill, the Dodgers lost nearly half the starts from last year. Kershaw and Buehler are back, but they are going to need a lot of starts from questionable sources -- Stripling will be there, he's okay, but guys like Jimmy Nelson and Alex Wood seem like crapshoots at this point. I guess they are counting on guys like Gonsolon and May and maybe Urias? Plenty of questions.
The trade of Joc Pederson, who gave them a good power threat, seems to weaken them, although I get that he is in his FA year.
They have a lot of talent, but also a lot of holes.
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Post by pippsheadache on Feb 5, 2020 15:02:15 GMT -5
Betts had a strange season in 2019, in my opinion. It was strange because it was so “normal”. He fell off from his monstrous 2018 campaign, yet it was a season during which we saw many players launching and unusual number of HRs because of a baseball that was acting differently. The numbers Betts put up were more like the couple of seasons prior to his monster 2018. I’m not sure what that means for his future production, nor if it means anything at all, but it’s an odd observation. Was he unmotivated because the team was not up to 2018 standards? Playing with some minor injury? He also lopped about 1/2 off his SB production. Unhappy, either in Boston or with some personal issue? Without the juiced ball, might he have had a noticeable reduction in performance? Good points, Inger. I hadn't thought of that. |
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Post by noetsi on Feb 5, 2020 17:16:35 GMT -5
I read an article today which made a lot of sense. It noted that: 1) The salary cap is not a hard cap. If you want to pay the tax you can keep signing players. 2) "The Red Sox did not want to pay the Competitive Balance Tax levied against teams who spend over the sport’s soft payroll limit ($208 million for 2020), and did not want to pay the extra tax for exceeding it in successive years. But their penalty — projected at about $12.4 million — is prohibitive to an ownership group valued at $6.6 billion only insofar as it wanted it to be." 3) The salary cap it sold as a way to make teams competitive. In fact its really an excuse so that owners can justify to their fans not spending money. sports.yahoo.com/why-even-own-a-baseball-team-john-henry-if-youre-going-to-trade-mookie-betts-170957297.html |
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Post by chiyankee on Feb 5, 2020 20:06:16 GMT -5
The Dodgers have some serious sticks now with Betts, Bellinger, a re-emerging Seager plus Turner and Muncy and probably other guys I am forgetting. It's a solid core, especially if Lux is what he's cracked up to be. I do wonder about the starting pitching. By losing Ryu, Maeda and Hill, the Dodgers lost nearly half the starts from last year. Kershaw and Buehler are back, but they are going to need a lot of starts from questionable sources -- Stripling will be there, he's okay, but guys like Jimmy Nelson and Alex Wood seem like crapshoots at this point. I guess they are counting on guys like Gonsolon and May and maybe Urias? Plenty of questions. The trade of Joc Pederson, who gave them a good power threat, seems to weaken them, although I get that he is in his FA year. They have a lot of talent, but also a lot of holes. Stripling is going to the Angels in the Pederson trade, so the Dodgers are losing him too. |
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Post by inger on Feb 5, 2020 21:09:59 GMT -5
The Dodgers have some serious sticks now with Betts, Bellinger, a re-emerging Seager plus Turner and Muncy and probably other guys I am forgetting. It's a solid core, especially if Lux is what he's cracked up to be. I do wonder about the starting pitching. By losing Ryu, Maeda and Hill, the Dodgers lost nearly half the starts from last year. Kershaw and Buehler are back, but they are going to need a lot of starts from questionable sources -- Stripling will be there, he's okay, but guys like Jimmy Nelson and Alex Wood seem like crapshoots at this point. I guess they are counting on guys like Gonsolon and May and maybe Urias? Plenty of questions. The trade of Joc Pederson, who gave them a good power threat, seems to weaken them, although I get that he is in his FA year. They have a lot of talent, but also a lot of holes. But why, Pipps? Why must you ruthlessly prick their Gonsolon bubble? Why? WHY? WHHHHHHHYYYYYYY?... |
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Post by inger on Feb 5, 2020 21:11:10 GMT -5
I read an article today which made a lot of sense. It noted that: 1) The salary cap is not a hard cap. If you want to pay the tax you can keep signing players. 2) "The Red Sox did not want to pay the Competitive Balance Tax levied against teams who spend over the sport’s soft payroll limit ($208 million for 2020), and did not want to pay the extra tax for exceeding it in successive years. But their penalty — projected at about $12.4 million — is prohibitive to an ownership group valued at $6.6 billion only insofar as it wanted it to be." 3) The salary cap it sold as a way to make teams competitive. In fact its really an excuse so that owners can justify to their fans not spending money. sports.yahoo.com/why-even-own-a-baseball-team-john-henry-if-youre-going-to-trade-mookie-betts-170957297.html Yeah. Did you have a point to make here?... |
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Post by greatfatness on Feb 5, 2020 21:17:53 GMT -5
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