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Post by rizzuto on Oct 25, 2019 13:23:59 GMT -5
Mazara is young, but thus far he cannot hit lefties. He has a career OPS+ of 93. Andujar has a career OPS+ of 119. Remember, Mazara has been hitting for half of his career numbers at home in Arlington, a very hitter friendly park, and his OPS+ is still below 100.
Stanton has a no trade clause in his contract, so unless he wants out of New York...
Sanchez needs a two-strike approach. He’s too talented to have an OBP of .318. His multiple stints on the IR didn’t help his numbers. His power is incredible and when he’s not pull happy, he looks like a Hall of Famer. He’s young enough to make adjustments, as he did last offseason defensively.
Jordan Montgomery will eat innings (if allowed to by Boone) at the bottom of the rotation. I’d like to resign Romine, but some team may pay him to start elsewhere.
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Post by pippsheadache on Oct 25, 2019 14:55:06 GMT -5
I think Andujar's absence and the great job Urshela did made us a little forgetful of how great he was with the stick for a rookie (and who is likely to only get better.)
Maybe irrational, but I would at least listen to trade proposals regarding Stanton and see if it led anywhere. For all I know he wouldn't waive his NTC under any circumstances, and if so fine, it is reasonable to expect a bounce back year from him anyway.
Sanchez is one of those guys who make GMs and managers earn their salaries. He goes through periods when he looks like a Hall of Famer, and then has long stretches when you want to bench him. Almost all power hitters are streaky, but Sanchez seems extreme in that regard.
His improvement on passed balls last year was really encouraging and shows that he has the determination to work hard to improve a weakness in his game. He definitely has to up his game in terms of OBP, and I think he can.
The constant injuries are a legitimate concern. He was on the IL twice in 2018 and three times in 2019. Most if not all of them groin-related. He has only averaged about 90 games catching over the last three years. That is a genuine issue, as is his abysmal post-season performance. These things can change, but they do need to change.
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Post by inger on Oct 25, 2019 17:29:29 GMT -5
I think Andujar's absence and the great job Urshela did made us a little forgetful of how great he was with the stick for a rookie (and who is likely to only get better.) Maybe irrational, but I would at least listen to trade proposals regarding Stanton and see if it led anywhere. For all I know he wouldn't waive his NTC under any circumstances, and if so fine, it is reasonable to expect a bounce back year from him anyway. Sanchez is one of those guys who make GMs and managers earn their salaries. He goes through periods when he looks like a Hall of Famer, and then has long stretches when you want to bench him. Almost all power hitters are streaky, but Sanchez seems extreme in that regard. His improvement on passed balls last year was really encouraging and shows that he has the determination to work hard to improve a weakness in his game. He definitely has to up his game in terms of OBP, and I think he can. The constant injuries are a legitimate concern. He was on the IL twice in 2018 and three times in 2019. Most if not all of them groin-related. He has only averaged about 90 games catching over the last three years. That is a genuine issue, as is his abysmal post-season performance. These things can change, but they do need to change. I’d love it if we could find a way to move Stanton. I was a huge fan of his four or five years ago, but I was pretty well over that by the time the Yankees got him due to the lack of playing time. Waiting for his next 59-homer outburst is sort of like hoping to win the lotto or waiting for a new car from Santa. I doubt he’ll get moved, though. Sanchez is really puzzling. He appeared to be a .280+ kind of guy with immense power, but the last two seasons he’s combined to hit .211. He still has the immense power. He still has a great arm. My biggest concern is that he also has a massive frame for a catcher. It’s a frame that just can’t physically get all the way down to the ground without risking repeated groin injury, as we’ve already seen. His choice is to not get all the way down and not block the balls, or get all the way down to do a proper job and suffer pain and injury. He can’t help being physically large for the position. The bat is something I feel can be corrected. When he remains disciplined and waits for his pitch he’s got such a huge impact on the game. When he slumps he begins to press and chase. Realistically, he should walk more. Accept the base. Swing only when the pitcher come to him...This is true of Judge and Stanton at times, too... |
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Post by inger on Oct 25, 2019 17:33:11 GMT -5
Lots of decisions to be made prior to the beginning of next season. Hicks surgery means likely Gardner and Tauchman will be back and there's nothing wrong with that in my opinion. It worked this year. To me the most interesting thing is what happens with Stanton, Voit, Ford, Encarnarcion and maybe Andujar. I'm not a fan of Stanton mainly because of his contract we assumed, that was not his fault, but he is not going anywhere. We have a lot of dh, 1st base type players that can't all be on the active roster. Injuries took care of that last year unfortunately but hopefully next year they won't be as big a factor. Voit's recovery and his ability to return as the player he was before he got hurt will help sort it out somewhat. I believe I read here that Romine was a free agent. It would be great to bring him back. I hope that Sanchez can bounce back from his .232 batting average and his 30% strikeout rate but if not Romine gives us some flexibility at the position. We all have opinions, these are just my un-learned ones. Good to hear your opinions bearman! I think Encarnacion is as good as gone leaving Voit to man 1st base. Ford goes back to AAA to come back for the inevitable injuries. Andujar can split time at DH, 3rd, maybe can learn 1st or LF. Hopefully Stanton can rebound. I'm not as hard on Sanchez as many are. He is a catcher and the bar is set quite low for offense there. If he can keep his improved defense I won't be mad at a low average with all the power he has. So true Kaybli. It’s great to hear from posters like bearman. Guys that are a bit newer around here and sometimes post while saying things like “not that I’m an expert”. Shucks, no one here is that. We’re just a bunch of good Ol’ Yankee lovers that want to talk baseball. We teach and learn from each other every day... |
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Post by inger on Oct 25, 2019 17:38:08 GMT -5
Good to hear your opinions bearman! I think Encarnacion is as good as gone leaving Voit to man 1st base. Ford goes back to AAA to come back for the inevitable injuries. Andujar can split time at DH, 3rd, maybe can learn 1st or LF. Hopefully Stanton can rebound. I'm not as hard on Sanchez as many are. He is a catcher and the bar is set quite low for offense there. If he can keep his improved defense I won't be mad at a low average with all the power he has. I agree that EE is as good as gone. I'd like to see Cashman make a deal for Nomar Mazzara to play LF. The Rangers need a third baseman. Maybe Andujar for Mazzara? I cant stand Gary Sanchez. Even with improvements, he's not a good catcher. And the bat? All-or-nothing hitters make me crazy. Sign Yasmani Grandal. I think Romine signs elsewhere. I didn't like the deal for Stanton when it was made, and I like it even less now. Can they trade him to the Dodgers for something? Voit/Ford is a good rotation at 1B/DH. Signing Gerrit Cole would be huge. Retaining Chapman and Betances would be nice. Will Jordan Montgomery be any good? Hey blue! Good go see you back again! That last query about Jordan Montgomery is especially juicy. He was much better than expected as a rookie, really surprised me. He’s a pitch ability guy. I’m thinking of him as a replacement for CC. I doubt he’ll pitch any worse next year than poor old Carsten Charles did with only 1.5 legs under him in 2019, so I’m assuming him to be an upgrade. I also look for Deivi Garcia to up before long and in the rotation in 2020. That’s an electric arm. He won’t take long to figure out AAA... |
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Post by kaybli on Oct 25, 2019 20:31:29 GMT -5
Good to hear your opinions bearman! I think Encarnacion is as good as gone leaving Voit to man 1st base. Ford goes back to AAA to come back for the inevitable injuries. Andujar can split time at DH, 3rd, maybe can learn 1st or LF. Hopefully Stanton can rebound. I'm not as hard on Sanchez as many are. He is a catcher and the bar is set quite low for offense there. If he can keep his improved defense I won't be mad at a low average with all the power he has. So true Kaybli. It’s great to hear from posters like bearman. Guys that are a bit newer around here and sometimes post while saying things like “not that I’m an expert”. Shucks, no one here is that. We’re just a bunch of good Ol’ Yankee lovers that want to talk baseball. We teach and learn from each other every day... Exactly, inger! |
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Post by bearman on Oct 26, 2019 10:10:51 GMT -5
I agree that EE is as good as gone. I'd like to see Cashman make a deal for Nomar Mazzara to play LF. The Rangers need a third baseman. Maybe Andujar for Mazzara? I cant stand Gary Sanchez. Even with improvements, he's not a good catcher. And the bat? All-or-nothing hitters make me crazy. Sign Yasmani Grandal. I think Romine signs elsewhere. I didn't like the deal for Stanton when it was made, and I like it even less now. Can they trade him to the Dodgers for something? Voit/Ford is a good rotation at 1B/DH. Signing Gerrit Cole would be huge. Retaining Chapman and Betances would be nice. Will Jordan Montgomery be any good? Hey blue! Good go see you back again! That last query about Jordan Montgomery is especially juicy. He was much better than expected as a rookie, really surprised me. He’s a pitch ability guy. I’m thinking of him as a replacement for CC. I doubt he’ll pitch any worse next year than poor old Carsten Charles did with only 1.5 legs under him in 2019, so I’m assuming him to be an upgrade. I also look for Deivi Garcia to up before long and in the rotation in 2020. That’s an electric arm. He won’t take long to figure out AAA... I haven't followed Garcia like the experts here have but if he and Montgomery could become capable starters next year that would relieve a lot of my heartburn with our starting pitchers. Honest to goodness if a decent deal could be worked out for Stanton, and he accepted it, I would do it in a minute, even if it meant giving some salary relief to the team that gets him. Even though we didn't give up much for him I thought taking on a contract of that length was insane. The money didn't bother me so much as the length of the deal. With he and Hicks(another dumb long term contract but the money was not outrageous) being constantly injured the roster juggling will continue. I doubt much will be worked out until spring training is underway meantime us "experts" on this board have a lot of decisions to make.(typed with tongue in cheek). |
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Post by inger on Oct 26, 2019 10:20:36 GMT -5
Hey blue! Good go see you back again! That last query about Jordan Montgomery is especially juicy. He was much better than expected as a rookie, really surprised me. He’s a pitch ability guy. I’m thinking of him as a replacement for CC. I doubt he’ll pitch any worse next year than poor old Carsten Charles did with only 1.5 legs under him in 2019, so I’m assuming him to be an upgrade. I also look for Deivi Garcia to up before long and in the rotation in 2020. That’s an electric arm. He won’t take long to figure out AAA... I haven't followed Garcia like the experts here have but if he and Montgomery could become capable starters next year that would relieve a lot of my heartburn with our starting pitchers. Honest to goodness if a decent deal could be worked out for Stanton, and he accepted it, I would do it in a minute, even if it meant giving some salary relief to the team that gets him. Even though we didn't give up much for him I thought taking on a contract of that length was insane. The money didn't bother me so much as the length of the deal. With he and Hicks(another dumb long term contract but the money was not outrageous) being constantly injured the roster juggling will continue. I doubt much will be worked out until spring training is underway meantime us "experts" on this board have a lot of decisions to make.(typed with tongue in cheek). Lol... yes. Yes we do. Lots of sleepless nights ahead for us. I just hope that Stanton gets well again, wherever he plays (probably NY). He’s a great talent, and it’s sad to see him hurt all the time... |
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Post by sierchio on Oct 26, 2019 11:21:16 GMT -5
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Post by greatfatness on Oct 26, 2019 12:49:10 GMT -5
I think Andujar's absence and the great job Urshela did made us a little forgetful of how great he was with the stick for a rookie (and who is likely to only get better.) Maybe irrational, but I would at least listen to trade proposals regarding Stanton and see if it led anywhere. For all I know he wouldn't waive his NTC under any circumstances, and if so fine, it is reasonable to expect a bounce back year from him anyway. Sanchez is one of those guys who make GMs and managers earn their salaries. He goes through periods when he looks like a Hall of Famer, and then has long stretches when you want to bench him. Almost all power hitters are streaky, but Sanchez seems extreme in that regard. His improvement on passed balls last year was really encouraging and shows that he has the determination to work hard to improve a weakness in his game. He definitely has to up his game in terms of OBP, and I think he can. The constant injuries are a legitimate concern. He was on the IL twice in 2018 and three times in 2019. Most if not all of them groin-related. He has only averaged about 90 games catching over the last three years. That is a genuine issue, as is his abysmal post-season performance. These things can change, but they do need to change. Andujar is an incredible natural hitter. I think if he’s healthy he’s our best hitter, him or Gleyber. I really would not be excited about trading him even if he’s a poor fielder. I’d like to see them convert him to a corner OF and plan for him to be a LF/DH and corner IF. His bat is special. |
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Post by noetsi on Oct 27, 2019 18:27:30 GMT -5
Man just as soon as Ellsbury contract is coming to an end we now have Stanton for a bunch of years. I thought the Yankees were going away from this kind of signing. I don't mind doing it for a relatively young ace pitcher even if he struggles towards the end of the contract. the Stanton decision is baffling to me given Cashman's normal behavior. Maybe the Steinbrenners got involved.
Regardless its a terrible decision that will haunt us for a decade or so.
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Post by bluemarlin on Oct 27, 2019 18:33:48 GMT -5
I think Andujar's absence and the great job Urshela did made us a little forgetful of how great he was with the stick for a rookie (and who is likely to only get better.) Maybe irrational, but I would at least listen to trade proposals regarding Stanton and see if it led anywhere. For all I know he wouldn't waive his NTC under any circumstances, and if so fine, it is reasonable to expect a bounce back year from him anyway. Sanchez is one of those guys who make GMs and managers earn their salaries. He goes through periods when he looks like a Hall of Famer, and then has long stretches when you want to bench him. Almost all power hitters are streaky, but Sanchez seems extreme in that regard. His improvement on passed balls last year was really encouraging and shows that he has the determination to work hard to improve a weakness in his game. He definitely has to up his game in terms of OBP, and I think he can. The constant injuries are a legitimate concern. He was on the IL twice in 2018 and three times in 2019. Most if not all of them groin-related. He has only averaged about 90 games catching over the last three years. That is a genuine issue, as is his abysmal post-season performance. These things can change, but they do need to change. Andujar is an incredible natural hitter. I think if he’s healthy he’s our best hitter, him or Gleyber. I really would not be excited about trading him even if he’s a poor fielder. I’d like to see them convert him to a corner OF and plan for him to be a LF/DH and corner IF. His bat is special. Well...if the Yankees had had Andujar for the 2019 season, their rotation would still have been an issue. They're going to have to trade value to get value in return. And the Yankees' offense did just fine this season w/o Andujar's bat. Gio Urshela might be a flash in the pan, but nothing, positive or negative, is certain in baseball. I think that the Yanks need starting pitching and a roster that allows for three good LH bats in the lineup whenever they face a RHP. They're losing Hicks and may well lose Didi. I wouldn't be excited going into the season with Mike Tauchman/Brett Gardner/Mike Ford as my LH murderer's row. Andujar and Frazier are two guys who could be more valuable to the Yankees as trade chips in 2020 than they'd be as players on the field. And, let's face it, Andujar is a lousy third baseman. If trading Andujar could bring back a young power LH bat or a starter, I'd be all for it. |
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Post by kaybli on Oct 27, 2019 18:37:36 GMT -5
Andujar is an incredible natural hitter. I think if he’s healthy he’s our best hitter, him or Gleyber. I really would not be excited about trading him even if he’s a poor fielder. I’d like to see them convert him to a corner OF and plan for him to be a LF/DH and corner IF. His bat is special. Andujar and Frazier are two guys who could be more valuable to the Yankees as trade chips in 2020 than they'd be as players on the field. Problem is you'd be selling low on both of them. |
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Post by noetsi on Oct 27, 2019 21:45:35 GMT -5
I don't see a place for Andujar except DH. He can't field.
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Post by rizzuto on Oct 27, 2019 22:05:57 GMT -5
I don't see a place for Andujar except DH. He can't field. Yeah, there’s no way this this team wins 100 games with Andujar in the field...  |
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