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Post by noetsi on Feb 11, 2020 19:54:37 GMT -5
Yes, users go to jail... when they're physically caught with drugs, it's called possession lol. That's not what I was trying to say man... I thought you were arguing that only those that sold drugs go to jail. I think many believe that in practice if not theory you get fines rather than jail time for just having drugs. |
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Post by greatfatness on Feb 11, 2020 20:40:54 GMT -5
Criminal law isn’t my area of expertise but I am quite confident you can be prosecuted federally and in most states on drug charges without physically being arrested in possession at that moment. Putting that aside, do you think it is debatable that Alex Rodriguez trafficked in, purchased and used illegal drugs? I wasn’t making a legal argument, just a factual one. I think the point holds up just fine as a legal argument but as a factual one it seems irrefutable to me that he’s been treated differently than the average person. I thought you said something about legal ramifications. Yeah, obviously A-Rod was juiced up. No doubt about that. I think he WAS treated differently than other athletes that got caught w/ performance enhancers, as in there was a bigger deal made out of it. In MMA, fighters fail drug tests all the time.... and A-Rod was def treated way worse than they are. There was clear evidence that he purchased illegal drugs across state lines and used them. Most people do time for that. He was rewarded with a TV deal. |
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Post by greatfatness on Feb 11, 2020 20:42:07 GMT -5
Finally someone with a soul able to admit that they cheated
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Post by sierchio on Feb 11, 2020 20:50:44 GMT -5
I thought you said something about legal ramifications. Yeah, obviously A-Rod was juiced up. No doubt about that. I think he WAS treated differently than other athletes that got caught w/ performance enhancers, as in there was a bigger deal made out of it. In MMA, fighters fail drug tests all the time.... and A-Rod was def treated way worse than they are. There was clear evidence that he purchased illegal drugs across state lines and used them. Most people do time for that. He was rewarded with a TV deal. No... they don't... unless they are PHYSICALLY caught with the drugs. That's why it's called a possession charge... You have to be caught with drugs, in your possession. I could go up to a cop and admit that I'm trafficking drugs and he would laugh at me. There's no conspiracy drug charges... you need to get caught red handed pretty much. I mean, a cop can technically charge you with anything... but it won't hold up in court. The prosecutor would probably ask why you're wasting their time. A-Rod never got caught with physical steroids...
Even if someone is a known mule trafficking millions of dollars of cocaine... without physically busting them with the coke, they're not setting foot in a court room, none the less a prison...
A-Rod is no different than any other athlete caught using steroids... In every other sport there are people w/ failed tests that are in the broadcast booth... not saying it's right or wrong, it's just how it is
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Post by sierchio on Feb 11, 2020 20:51:34 GMT -5
Finally someone with a soul able to admit that they cheated Yay... I can see tweets w/ Firefox... |
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Post by inger on Feb 11, 2020 20:58:20 GMT -5
Finally someone with a soul able to admit that they cheated Yay... I can see tweets w/ Firefox... What a fulfilling life you now have... |
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Post by rizzuto on Feb 11, 2020 21:24:18 GMT -5
“Being Under the Influence
Being under the influence of drugs, on its own, can be a crime. To illustrate, in California it’s generally a misdemeanor to use or be under the influence of many controlled substances. (Cal. Health & Safety Code § 11550(a) (2017).) Being under the influence of drugs under some conditions or while doing some acts can be another, more serious crime. For example, one California crime is being “in the immediate personal possession of a loaded, operable firearm” while illegally under the influence of “cocaine, cocaine base, heroin, methamphetamine, or phencyclidine.” This latter crime can be either a misdemeanor or a felony. (Cal. Health & Safety Code § 11550(e)(1) (2017).)
Another example of illegal under-the-influence activity is, of course, driving.”
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Post by rizzuto on Feb 11, 2020 21:37:06 GMT -5
“Mailing Prescription Drugs Is Illegal
As mentioned, it’s illegal to mail prescription drugs. It doesn’t matter what the situation is. If it’s a drug that someone has left at your home, perhaps some drugs you want to send to a different address when you want to travel, or if you want to get back the drugs you left at someone’s house.
Whatever the situation is, it’s against postal regulations to mail prescription drugs – even if it’s within your state or across state lines, mailing prescription drugs is prohibited – except in rare circumstances.
Be it prescription drugs or over-the-counter drugs when such mail is identified, and it will be seized and destroyed. And both the receiver and the sender can likely be arrested, face fines or possible jail time.
However, the penalty can vary depending on the regulations of the state.”
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Post by rizzuto on Feb 12, 2020 1:16:14 GMT -5
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Post by kaybli on Feb 12, 2020 1:59:41 GMT -5
Alex Cora warned Nationals about Astros' sign-stealing before 2019 World Series
The Houston Astros' illegal sign-stealing methods were brought to the Washington Nationals' attention prior to the 2019 World Series, thanks to Alex Cora.
The former Boston Red Sox manager reached out to Nationals skipper Dave Martinez to warn him about Houston's sign-stealing, according to Barry Svrluga and Dave Sheinin of the Washington Post. Cora was involved in the Astros' sign-stealing operation while serving as the team's bench coach in 2017.
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Post by greatfatness on Feb 12, 2020 6:00:08 GMT -5
There was clear evidence that he purchased illegal drugs across state lines and used them. Most people do time for that. He was rewarded with a TV deal. No... they don't... unless they are PHYSICALLY caught with the drugs. That's why it's called a possession charge... You have to be caught with drugs, in your possession. I could go up to a cop and admit that I'm trafficking drugs and he would laugh at me. There's no conspiracy drug charges... you need to get caught red handed pretty much. I mean, a cop can technically charge you with anything... but it won't hold up in court. The prosecutor would probably ask why you're wasting their time. A-Rod never got caught with physical steroids...
Even if someone is a known mule trafficking millions of dollars of cocaine... without physically busting them with the coke, they're not setting foot in a court room, none the less a prison...
A-Rod is no different than any other athlete caught using steroids... In every other sport there are people w/ failed tests that are in the broadcast booth... not saying it's right or wrong, it's just how it is
We don’t need to debate this further but constructive possession is a crime in most states and at the federal level. And there’s a reason his attorney negotiated immunity before he talked to the prosecutors investigating his source. |
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Post by inger on Feb 12, 2020 11:21:10 GMT -5
No... they don't... unless they are PHYSICALLY caught with the drugs. That's why it's called a possession charge... You have to be caught with drugs, in your possession. I could go up to a cop and admit that I'm trafficking drugs and he would laugh at me. There's no conspiracy drug charges... you need to get caught red handed pretty much. I mean, a cop can technically charge you with anything... but it won't hold up in court. The prosecutor would probably ask why you're wasting their time. A-Rod never got caught with physical steroids...
Even if someone is a known mule trafficking millions of dollars of cocaine... without physically busting them with the coke, they're not setting foot in a court room, none the less a prison...
A-Rod is no different than any other athlete caught using steroids... In every other sport there are people w/ failed tests that are in the broadcast booth... not saying it's right or wrong, it's just how it is
We don’t need to debate this further but constructive possession is a crime in most states and at the federal level. And there’s a reason his attorney negotiated immunity before he talked to the prosecutors investigating his source. Immunity before testimony is never a bad idea. I would imagine that it’s harder to get that than they make it seem on “Bull” unless you happen to be a wealthy guy like A-Hole. I meant to type A-Rod. Darn spellchecker... |
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Post by noetsi on Feb 12, 2020 14:21:17 GMT -5
Alex Cora warned Nationals about Astros' sign-stealing before 2019 World Series
The Houston Astros' illegal sign-stealing methods were brought to the Washington Nationals' attention prior to the 2019 World Series, thanks to Alex Cora.
The former Boston Red Sox manager reached out to Nationals skipper Dave Martinez to warn him about Houston's sign-stealing, according to Barry Svrluga and Dave Sheinin of the Washington Post. Cora was involved in the Astros' sign-stealing operation while serving as the team's bench coach in 2017.
National Manager: "How do you know?" Cora "Well I set it up..."
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Post by rizzuto on Feb 12, 2020 15:54:46 GMT -5
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Post by noetsi on Feb 12, 2020 16:07:58 GMT -5
I lost the respect I once had for Beltran. Who probably can forget the Hall now (not obviously because of my loss of respect).  sports.yahoo.com/new-details-in-astros-cheating-scandal-put-carlos-beltrans-legacy-in-jeopardy-230153436.htmlApparently even his manager was scared of him, or so they claim now. "Beltrán’s sway over the clubhouse, however, helps explain the inaction of Hinch and his other coaches and players, even as some who were there say they felt conflicted about the team’s misconduct. The reluctance of anyone in uniform to challenge Beltrán spoke to the power of the accomplished veteran in the sport’s political pecking order... Members of the 2017 Astros use various terms to describe Beltrán — El Jefe, the Godfather, the king, the alpha male in the building. Beltrán was 40 that season, capping off a 20-year career, seeking to add to his Hall of Fame resume. No other person in the Astros’ clubhouse carried the same stature, including McCann, who was 33 that season and a less accomplished player." |
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