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Post by noetsi on Feb 12, 2020 16:25:56 GMT -5
I have a question.
Why haven't Cora, Beltran, and Hinch been placed on the permanent ineligible list? Because it is no longer in use (I know it formally exists)?
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Post by inger on Feb 12, 2020 16:57:06 GMT -5
I have a question. Why haven't Cora, Beltran, and Hinch been placed on the permanent ineligible list? Because it is no longer in use (I know it formally exists)? Because that was not the punishment handed down by MLB... |
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Post by kaybli on Feb 12, 2020 19:11:12 GMT -5
Severino admitted he was angry when he initially heard MLB found that Houston used an illegal electronic sign-stealing scheme that helped them win when they beat the Yankees in seven games in the 2017 ALCS en route to a World Series title. “I was mad because I remember how many times I would look in the mirror at my mechanics to see if I was tipping pitches,” Severino said after pitchers and catchers reported to Yankee camp on Wednesday at Steinbrenner Field. And while he and other members of the Yankees’ pitching staff tried to make sure they weren’t tipping pitches, they now know Astros hitters were getting their pitches in real time. “A lot of things go through your mind when you’re pitching against a team that good,” Severino said. “You think, ‘Am I tipping?’ and spend hours in the video room looking and saying ‘What am I doing?’ Then you hear what the problem is and it wasn’t even tipping.”
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Post by kaybli on Feb 12, 2020 19:12:09 GMT -5
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Post by kaybli on Feb 12, 2020 22:34:57 GMT -5
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Post by inger on Feb 12, 2020 23:55:46 GMT -5
Severino admitted he was angry when he initially heard MLB found that Houston used an illegal electronic sign-stealing scheme that helped them win when they beat the Yankees in seven games in the 2017 ALCS en route to a World Series title. “I was mad because I remember how many times I would look in the mirror at my mechanics to see if I was tipping pitches,” Severino said after pitchers and catchers reported to Yankee camp on Wednesday at Steinbrenner Field. And while he and other members of the Yankees’ pitching staff tried to make sure they weren’t tipping pitches, they now know Astros hitters were getting their pitches in real time. “A lot of things go through your mind when you’re pitching against a team that good,” Severino said. “You think, ‘Am I tipping?’ and spend hours in the video room looking and saying ‘What am I doing?’ Then you hear what the problem is and it wasn’t even tipping.”
I recall Severino being criticized quite a bit, and the Yankee coaching staff, in particular Rothschild getting raked BP we the coals in the press for not “fixing” the tipping issue. Cheating isn’t just about who won. It’s also about who lost and how they lost...it’s about the stress that the victims went through, blaming themselves and losing confidence... |
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Post by chiyankee on Feb 13, 2020 10:11:29 GMT -5
Jim Crane is in complete denial. Whatever makes you sleep at night, you tool.
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Post by inger on Feb 13, 2020 10:32:33 GMT -5
Jim Crane is in complete denial. Whatever makes you sleep at night, you tool. Obviously a case of leadership skirting punishment, feeling no impact and setting a poor example. He should be ushered out of his office and hanged in a public setting...But then again, that’s true of about 75% of corporate management in America... Let’s establish a national CEO hanging day!... |
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Post by kaybli on Feb 13, 2020 13:38:30 GMT -5
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Post by inger on Feb 13, 2020 13:56:48 GMT -5
What I MEANT to say is that this hasn’t impacted me in any meaningful way. That is really all that matters...By the way, does this ass make my hat look fat?... |
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Post by sierchio on Feb 13, 2020 16:40:48 GMT -5
What a filthy POS. So, if it didn't "impact the game," why did you fire your GM and Manager?
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Post by noetsi on Feb 13, 2020 16:41:51 GMT -5
Houston should have just shut up rather than pretending to apologize.
I think the whole lot should be on the permanent ineligible list. Pete did nothing worse.
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Post by noetsi on Feb 13, 2020 16:55:11 GMT -5
"To be sure, the sign-stealing scandal is of a different magnitude than the Black Sox Scandal in that, in my view, it’s far worse for teams to cheat in order to lose a game than it is for them to cheat in an effort to win one, but it is not terribly different in kind or in effect. It’s a scandal that calls into question the integrity of the game and, like the Black Sox Scandal, it is one that has caused widespread discord around the league. Opposing players are angry. Opposing managers, coaches, scouts and executives are angry. There will, for some time, remain great distrust of the Astros, their players and any other teams or players that are later revealed to have been engaging in similar behavior. It’s not something that is simply going away because Rob Manfred issued a report last month and suspended a couple of guys." I expect them to get booed a lot this year. sports.yahoo.com/rob-manfred-must-answer-mishandling-132121348.html |
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Post by inger on Feb 13, 2020 16:58:32 GMT -5
Houston should have just shut up rather than pretending to apologize. I think the whole lot should be on the permanent ineligible list. Pete did nothing worse. I don’t think the punishments to be at all severe when one realizes that the integrity of the game is put into question. I believe the leaders of the sport (read: owners) decided to tread lightly because the entirety of the problem could still emerge and wind up including nearly every franchise to one degree or another. The danger in what may lie ahead could potentially turn-out to be a scandal as wide spread as the PED scandal. So what if say, 80% of players were participants in some cheating scandal and then the precedent had been set to ban the cheaters? Suddenly 80% of the populace of the sport could be banned. That should un-complicate the playoffs, though...🤪 |
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Post by noetsi on Feb 13, 2020 17:08:48 GMT -5
I think the owners decided if they ignored it, it would go away. And maybe, given how negative our views are in general people will forget.
The punishment was a joke given how much teams make from winning a WS.
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