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Post by inger on Jan 22, 2020 0:22:24 GMT -5
The fact that they did things wrong in past voting does not mean they should continue doing so chi. What I really meant is that there were players that did PED's, were not caught and have been elected to the HOF. True. And there are people who robbed banks that never got caught and lived a good life off the money they took. But that’s not a reason to let the ones that got caught get away with it. It sucks, but part of life is that some people steal their way through life as respected members of society. Others work hard play fair. We’d like to think that matters in the final accounting. Maybe it does. Maybe there is no final accounting... |
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Post by anthonyd46 on Jan 22, 2020 0:47:10 GMT -5
Wonder who the non Jeter voter was.
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Post by inger on Jan 22, 2020 0:55:40 GMT -5
Wonder who the non Jeter voter was. Not his momma. Not his poppa. Not a Yankee fan. No one with a lot of common sense. Is he a strict traditionalist, or a strict contrarian? Let’s face it. Jeter has a great reputation. He was a great player, but hardly the greatest to ever play the game. Anything that’s given to human judgement is going to fail the test of perfection. More than who, I’d love to hear the reasoning. The why. What skill, what personality trait was missing that caused a voter to leave that box on his ballot unmarked? What did Jeter need to get his vote. Was it 4,000 hits? Did that voter check yes on some other players? Maybe we’ll find out... |
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Post by anthonyd46 on Jan 22, 2020 1:14:50 GMT -5
Wonder who the non Jeter voter was. Not his momma. Not his poppa. Not a Yankee fan. No one with a lot of common sense. Is he a strict traditionalist, or a strict contrarian? Let’s face it. Jeter has a great reputation. He was a great player, but hardly the greatest to ever play the game. Anything that’s given to human judgement is going to fail the test of perfection. More than who, I’d love to hear the reasoning. The why. What skill, what personality trait was missing that caused a voter to leave that box on his ballot unmarked? What did Jeter need to get his vote. Was it 4,000 hits? Did that voter check yes on some other players? Maybe we’ll find out... Biggest flawed thing I find with the whole voting is not everyone picks the same amount of players. Some can pick 5 some ten etc. That never made sense to me. |
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Post by pippsheadache on Jan 22, 2020 1:34:17 GMT -5
Wonder who the non Jeter voter was. Maybe it was the guy who voted for Brad Penny. Does A-Rod have a vote? |
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Post by pippsheadache on Jan 22, 2020 1:53:48 GMT -5
One of the articles noted that Jeter was the ninth player to get into the Hall who played his entire career for the Yankees. The others being Gehrig, DiMaggio, Dickey, Rizzuto, Mantle, Ford, Mo, and the one people are least likely to know, Earle Combs.
Only a technicality keeps Yogi off this list. The Yankees fired him after one season as manager when his team lost the 1964 World Series to the Cardinals in seven games. In an intelligent public relations move, the Mets hired him as a playing coach the next year and Yogi got a handful of at bats. And the Yanks got a ton of richly deserved bad publicity.
It was the start of the CBS ownership Dark Age.
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Post by greatfatness on Jan 22, 2020 5:53:54 GMT -5
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Post by greatfatness on Jan 22, 2020 5:55:09 GMT -5
Wonder who the non Jeter voter was. Not his momma. Not his poppa. Not a Yankee fan. No one with a lot of common sense. Is he a strict traditionalist, or a strict contrarian? Let’s face it. Jeter has a great reputation. He was a great player, but hardly the greatest to ever play the game. Anything that’s given to human judgement is going to fail the test of perfection. More than who, I’d love to hear the reasoning. The why. What skill, what personality trait was missing that caused a voter to leave that box on his ballot unmarked? What did Jeter need to get his vote. Was it 4,000 hits? Did that voter check yes on some other players? Maybe we’ll find out... His name will come out because the only reason to do this was to seek attention. The explanation won’t make any sense and he’ll have a few days of being more important than he should be for doing something contrary to the purpose of the vote. |
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Post by sierchio on Jan 22, 2020 8:57:59 GMT -5
The fact that they did things wrong in past voting does not mean they should continue doing so chi. What I really meant is that there were players that did PED's, were not caught and have been elected to the HOF. ::cough:: Hank Aaron ::cough:: |
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Post by inger on Jan 22, 2020 9:20:06 GMT -5
What I really meant is that there were players that did PED's, were not caught and have been elected to the HOF. ::cough:: Hank Aaron ::cough:: Not so sure, though the Braves did shorten the fences as he approached the record. That may have also given us the Davey Johnson “surprise” 40+ HR season...Was that cheating, too? Yeah... sorta... |
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Post by pippsheadache on Jan 22, 2020 10:16:02 GMT -5
Great stat from the always interesting Katie. I would have thought Willie Mays-- he had all the other criteria-- but only 338 stolen bases. She threaded the needle with this combination, but that's legitimate baseball stat fun. I love the things she comes up with. Jayson Stark is a master of this sort of thing. |
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Post by sierchio on Jan 22, 2020 11:05:15 GMT -5
::cough:: Hank Aaron ::cough:: Not so sure, though the Braves did shorten the fences as he approached the record. That may have also given us the Davey Johnson “surprise” 40+ HR season...Was that cheating, too? Yeah... sorta... I was referring to the greenies... if people are gonna be self righteous for one drug, they need to apply it to all drugs... |
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Post by noetsi on Jan 22, 2020 12:15:14 GMT -5
The fact that they did things wrong in past voting does not mean they should continue doing so chi. What I really meant is that there were players that did PED's, were not caught and have been elected to the HOF. If they were not caught, how do you know they used PED?  |
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Post by noetsi on Jan 22, 2020 12:17:56 GMT -5
Not his momma. Not his poppa. Not a Yankee fan. No one with a lot of common sense. Is he a strict traditionalist, or a strict contrarian? Let’s face it. Jeter has a great reputation. He was a great player, but hardly the greatest to ever play the game. Anything that’s given to human judgement is going to fail the test of perfection. More than who, I’d love to hear the reasoning. The why. What skill, what personality trait was missing that caused a voter to leave that box on his ballot unmarked? What did Jeter need to get his vote. Was it 4,000 hits? Did that voter check yes on some other players? Maybe we’ll find out... His name will come out because the only reason to do this was to seek attention. The explanation won’t make any sense and he’ll have a few days of being more important than he should be for doing something contrary to the purpose of the vote. Jeter had the 2nd fewest people leave him off the ballot ever. He wasn't obviously the 2nd best player in MLB history. |
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Post by sierchio on Jan 22, 2020 13:39:28 GMT -5
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