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Post by pippsheadache on Sept 12, 2024 16:33:54 GMT -5
It's funny, you don't know what influences some of even the top musicians. Bob Dylan was a big fan of Bobby Vee -- go figure -- and later in life appeared on stage with him for a few songs. I loved Bobby Vee...have his "Greatest Hits" album. The connection for him & Dylan probably had a lot to do with them both being Minnesotans. Yep, I think that's the connection. One of my favorites from Bobby Vee was his very first single "Suzy Baby," an obvious Buddy Holly homage. I am sure you know that Bobby and his band were put on the program after Buddy was killed in the plane crash. I can't imagine sitting in under those conditions. "Rubber Ball" was written by Gene Pitney and "Take Good Care Of My Baby" by Carole King and Gerry Goffin. Not news to you I would bet. But yeah, Bobby Vee churned out a lot of hits, his last big one being "Come Back When You Grow Up" from the summer of 67. By any account I have heard he was a prince of a guy who always appreciated his fans. Sadly he was afflicted with Alzheimers at the end of his life.
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Post by azbob643 on Sept 12, 2024 16:34:07 GMT -5
I met Richie Furay through a business associate. He runs a church in Broomfield, CO.
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Post by azbob643 on Sept 12, 2024 16:35:02 GMT -5
By any account I have heard he was a prince of a guy who always appreciated his fans. Sadly he was afflicted with Alzheimers at the end of his life. Yep...
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Post by chiyankee on Sept 12, 2024 18:36:04 GMT -5
I met Richie Furay through a business associate. He runs a church in Broomfield, CO. Was he cool?
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Post by Renfield on Sept 12, 2024 18:52:38 GMT -5
Story I heard was that Dylan was in Bobby Vee's band for a short time because he had his own piano. Didn't last long because he could only play in one key. Dylan left and went to college where he picked up the guitar. Don't know how true all that is, but that's what I heard.
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Post by pippsheadache on Sept 13, 2024 9:04:47 GMT -5
Story I heard was that Dylan was in Bobby Vee's band for a short time because he had his own piano. Didn't last long because he could only play in one key. Dylan left and went to college where he picked up the guitar. Don't know how true all that is, but that's what I heard. That story sounded familiar to me too Ren, so I did some research. In an interview several years before his death, Bobby Vee mentioned that in 1959, after his band had had replaced Buddy Holly for a few gigs on the ill-fated Winter Dance Party tour, they began looking for other engagements, but needed a pianist. Bobby's brother Bill said he overhead some guy in a local record shop claiming that he had just finished touring as pianist with Conway Twitty and was looking for more work. Even though it turned out that this guy, later known as Bob Dylan, had done no such thing, he did a trial in which he played "Whole Lotta Shakin Going On" and he was hired. He used the stage name Elston Gunnn (three n's) but only lasted for a few jobs. You're right, he could only play in the key of C, which understandably hampered the band, and they soon went their separate ways. During a concert in the early 2000s, Dylan called Vee, who was in the audience, up on stage and they performed a few songs together. Dylan said afterwards that of all the major artists he had worked with, he never had a better time than singing with Bobby Vee.
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Post by pippsheadache on Sept 13, 2024 9:26:19 GMT -5
One of my favorite Neil Young songs is "Mr. Soul" from that era. His singing style wasn't quite so stylized as it became later. Later..."Harvest Moon"... www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2MtEsrcTTsYoung is also a big fan of Ian Tyson... "Harvest Moon" is also probably my favorite Neil Young song too. Although I also really like "Long May You Run" and "Hey Hey My My." Lots of them. "Helpless" is another. One of my best friends in college was a big Ian and Sylvia fan, so I heard a lot of their stuff by osmosis. I know Young recorded Tyson's "Four Strong Winds." Obviously Judy Collins had a monster hit with his "Someday Soon" and Sylvia wrote and recorded "You Were On My Mind" which We Five did a wonderful job with. Man I loved that girl Bev Bivens who did lead vocals for them. One thing always leads to another on this thread. Which is one of the things I like about it. I think this started with Inger talking about Barry White!
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Post by azbob643 on Sept 13, 2024 9:29:55 GMT -5
I met Richie Furay through a business associate. He runs a church in Broomfield, CO. Was he cool? Seemed like a decent guy. An associate I’d done some work with, who was a member of the church, had to deliver some literature, asked me if I wanted to tag along. Wasn’t much interaction…general pleasantries, some small talk and think I mentioned Randy Meisner, who I had previously met in Scottsbluff, NE at a fastpitch tourney I used to play in.
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Post by azbob643 on Sept 13, 2024 9:47:47 GMT -5
One of my best friends in college was a big Ian and Sylvia fan, so I heard a lot of their stuff by osmosis. I know Young recorded Tyson's "Four Strong Winds." Obviously Judy Collins had a monster hit with his "Someday Soon" and Sylvia wrote and recorded "You Were On My Mind" which We Five did a wonderful job with. Man I loved that girl Bev Bivens who did lead vocals for them. Love both versions of “You Were On My Mind”…Ian & Sylvia’s with an (authentic) country tinge. Ian Tyson wrote “Someday Soon” from a female perspective, but it was coincidence that Judy Collins, who is from Colorado, sang & had a hit with it. Wasn’t written specifically for her. I saw an interview in which she said she was initially a little reluctant to record it for some reason.
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Post by chiyankee on Sept 13, 2024 10:03:45 GMT -5
"Harvest Moon" is also probably my favorite Neil Young song too. Although I also really like "Long May You Run" and "Hey Hey My My." Lots of them. "Helpless" is another. One of my best friends in college was a big Ian and Sylvia fan, so I heard a lot of their stuff by osmosis. I know Young recorded Tyson's "Four Strong Winds." Obviously Judy Collins had a monster hit with his "Someday Soon" and Sylvia wrote and recorded "You Were On My Mind" which We Five did a wonderful job with. Man I loved that girl Bev Bivens who did lead vocals for them. One thing always leads to another on this thread. Which is one of the things I like about it. I think this started with Inger talking about Barry White! Neil doesn't do a lot of covers but this is one of this best.
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Post by pippsheadache on Sept 13, 2024 11:02:34 GMT -5
"Harvest Moon" is also probably my favorite Neil Young song too. Although I also really like "Long May You Run" and "Hey Hey My My." Lots of them. "Helpless" is another. One of my best friends in college was a big Ian and Sylvia fan, so I heard a lot of their stuff by osmosis. I know Young recorded Tyson's "Four Strong Winds." Obviously Judy Collins had a monster hit with his "Someday Soon" and Sylvia wrote and recorded "You Were On My Mind" which We Five did a wonderful job with. Man I loved that girl Bev Bivens who did lead vocals for them. One thing always leads to another on this thread. Which is one of the things I like about it. I think this started with Inger talking about Barry White! Neil doesn't do a lot of covers but this is one of this best. That’s a really nice version Chi. With the late great Nicolette Larson doing harmonies. That song has been covered by dozens of artists, but I believe the biggest hit was done by one of my favorite country singers of the 60s, Bobby Bare. Neil did a song long ago called "Albuquerque." It wasn't a big hit at all, but when we lived in Santa Fe we used to hear it because it actually mentions Santa Fe as well as Albuquerque. They don't get a lot of shoutouts in music.
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Post by chiyankee on Sept 13, 2024 11:09:54 GMT -5
Neil doesn't do a lot of covers but this is one of this best. That’s a really nice version Chi. With the late great Nicolette Larson doing harmonies. That song has been covered by dozens of artists, but I believe the biggest hit was done by one of my favorite country singers of the 60s, Bobby Bare. Neil did a song long ago called "Albuquerque." It wasn't a big hit at all, but when we lived in Santa Fe we used to hear it because it actually mentions Santa Fe as well as Albuquerque. They don't get a lot of shoutouts in music. I like the part in Alburquerque when Neil mentions finding place where he can get some fried eggs and country ham. It always makes me think of my grandma cooking me up some breakfast when I as a kid. Now I'm hungry.
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Post by pippsheadache on Sept 13, 2024 11:18:30 GMT -5
One of my best friends in college was a big Ian and Sylvia fan, so I heard a lot of their stuff by osmosis. I know Young recorded Tyson's "Four Strong Winds." Obviously Judy Collins had a monster hit with his "Someday Soon" and Sylvia wrote and recorded "You Were On My Mind" which We Five did a wonderful job with. Man I loved that girl Bev Bivens who did lead vocals for them. Love both versions of “You Were On My Mind”…Ian & Sylvia’s with an (authentic) country tinge. Ian Tyson wrote “Someday Soon” from a female perspective, but it was coincidence that Judy Collins, who is from Colorado, sang & had a hit with it. Wasn’t written specifically for her. I saw an interview in which she said she was initially a little reluctant to record it for some reason. I had heard the Judy Collins version before I heard the Ian and Sylvia original. One thing that struck me was that when Judy sang the line "he comes from down in Southern Colorado" she pronounced it the way those of us from the Eastern Seaboard do, Colo rah do. The I&S version had that Western pronunciation where the "a" is pronounced like the "a" in bat. Even though that's how the natives pronounced it, it just irrationally grates on me. Same with Nevada or Navajo. My wife is from Scranton and she pronounced it the wrong way until I made a big baby deal out of it. Although she still slips up now and then on words like Ah va cah do. I won't even get started on putting the accent on the first syllable for insurance.
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Post by rizzuto on Sept 13, 2024 11:56:16 GMT -5
Love both versions of “You Were On My Mind”…Ian & Sylvia’s with an (authentic) country tinge. Ian Tyson wrote “Someday Soon” from a female perspective, but it was coincidence that Judy Collins, who is from Colorado, sang & had a hit with it. Wasn’t written specifically for her. I saw an interview in which she said she was initially a little reluctant to record it for some reason. I had heard the Judy Collins version before I heard the Ian and Sylvia original. One thing that struck me was that when Judy sang the line "he comes from down in Southern Colorado" she pronounced it the way those of us from the Eastern Seaboard do, Colo rah do. The I&S version had that Western pronunciation where the "a" is pronounced like the "a" in bat. Even though that's how the natives pronounced it, it just irrationally grates on me. Same with Nevada or Navajo. My wife is from Scranton and she pronounced it the wrong way until I made a big baby deal out of it. Although she still slips up now and then on words like Ah va cah do. I won't even get started on putting the accent on the first syllable for insurance. Hah! Before I moved to California, I had never heard Nah-vah-dah as Nev-AD-ah. Everyone in my immediate family - except me - pronounces insurance with the accent on the first syllable. Every now and then I would intentionally do so to tease Sarah. Such things were like fingers on a chalk board. You could really ruffle her feathers with Illinois by saying Ill-ah-noise instead of ill-ah-noy! There are several words that I pronounce differently from my family and especially the way in which my father pronounced words. Of course, I was born with television and my older siblings and father were not. My father said rum for room, brum for broom, and rough for roof. There was also Cincinnatta for Cincinnati, Missourah for Missouri, and by-yuh for bayou. Regional differences were so much more pronounced - pun intended - prior to television becoming the hearth of the home.
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Post by azbob643 on Sept 13, 2024 11:59:32 GMT -5
I had heard the Judy Collins version before I heard the Ian and Sylvia original. One thing that struck me was that when Judy sang the line "he comes from down in Southern Colorado" she pronounced it the way those of us from the Eastern Seaboard do, Colo rah do. The I&S version had that Western pronunciation where the "a" is pronounced like the "a" in bat. Even though that's how the natives pronounced it, it just irrationally grates on me. Same with Nevada or Navajo. My wife is from Scranton and she pronounced it the wrong way until I made a big baby deal out of it. Although she still slips up now and then on words like Ah va cah do. I won't even get started on putting the accent on the first syllable for insurance. You're absolutely right re the pronunciation. The "correct" pronunciation is Colorado, with the a as in "bat"...but I lived there for 30+ years and most people, even the "natives", use the soft "ah" sound, as John Denver did in "Rocky Mountain High". The city of Arvada, a Denver suburb, is pronounced with the "bat" sound, just as most people pronounce Nevada. And don't piss the people of the city of "Louisville, CO" off by pronouncing it the same as the Kentucky city, pronounced Looeyville. It's LOUISville, as in Louis Armstrong.
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