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Post by kaybli on Sept 5, 2020 10:34:46 GMT -5
I'm frustrated with the Yankees injuries and some of the oddities of the short season, but I still watch every game so I guess my enthusiasm hasn't waned. The lack of offense makes the games so hard to watch. How many times have we seen the score some runs early in the game and then get shut down the rest of the way? Yea its the same script. Score a few early runs but leave a bunch of runners on base, not really break the game open. Then blow the game in the later innings. |
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Post by anthonyd46 on Sept 6, 2020 16:00:00 GMT -5
I had no electricity for a week at the beginning of
last month so I didn't get to watch too many games then by the time it came back the team started playing bad and I haven't seen much of it. I guess the mentality is with the expanded playoffs and short season they can rest guys because the chances getting in are high, but they are getting a little too close to falling out all together. I don't think that will happen because all the teams out of the playoffs are sub 500 but it def is concerning.
Regardless if the Yankees don't have Judge and Stanton both playing it effects the team a lot just look at last years playoffs team was looking great until Stantons status went in limbo. There's just something different about this lineup when both are in it.
Anyway as long as those two comeback and Cole pitches at the elite level he usually does in the playoffs I still do like the Yankees chances.
One thing I don't like is 7 inning games and this runner on second in extras thing(though I guess I wouldn't be opposed to that if it was like the 15th inning but let the game try to end naturally for a bit first) what's even crazier is with the 7 inning rule that puts a runner on second in the eighth inning because that is now extras for that game.
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Post by anthonyd46 on Sept 6, 2020 16:04:35 GMT -5
I'm also not sure how much Boone is the manager of this team I feel like the higher ups seem to be controlling this rest people stuff because we were saying the same stuff towards the end of Girardi.
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Post by kaybli on Sept 6, 2020 16:35:26 GMT -5
I had no electricity for a week at the beginning of last month so I didn't get to watch too many games then by the time it came back the team started playing bad and I haven't seen much of it. I guess the mentality is with the expanded playoffs and short season they can rest guys because the chances getting in are high, but they are getting a little too close to falling out all together. I don't think that will happen because all the teams out of the playoffs are sub 500 but it def is concerning. Regardless if the Yankees don't have Judge and Stanton both playing it effects the team a lot just look at last years playoffs team was looking great until Stantons status went in limbo. There's just something different about this lineup when both are in it. Anyway as long as those two comeback and Cole pitches at the elite level he usually does in the playoffs I still do like the Yankees chances. One thing I don't like is 7 inning games and this runner on second in extras thing(though I guess I wouldn't be opposed to that if it was like the 15th inning but let the game try to end naturally for a bit first) what's even crazier is with the 7 inning rule that puts a runner on second in the eighth inning because that is now extras for that game. Glad you got your electricity back anthony! This team better wake up soon or they will miss the playoffs altogether. I do think they still have enough to talent to make noise in the playoffs if they get healthy and get their heads out of their asses. |
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Post by ernesto on Sept 6, 2020 17:37:30 GMT -5
This was the year it was supposed to come together. We had an absolute ace pitcher. We had pitching depth (on paper). We had reputedly the best bullpen in baseball. Sanchez would surely get his hitting act together, wouldn't he? Everyone was healthy. LeMahieu, Voit, Judge, Stanton, Torres, Sanchez, Urshela. That was an awesome first seven hitters (on paper).
We can't blame covid. That was a minor factor. Remember when Stanton and Judge went down, and the Yankees were still winning games. Then key guys who were hitting well would be benched a game or two. Maybe two of those guys sat down in the same game. And, then the losses started. And then there were some tragic in-game decisions. And then the losses began to spiral out of control. Did the players start to press? It just seems like it didn't have to be this bad. It feels like there were a lot of management decisions that were poorly made. Looking backwards, it is hard to see how this team is playing as badly as they are.
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Post by anthonyd46 on Sept 6, 2020 18:00:20 GMT -5
This was the year it was supposed to come together. We had an absolute ace pitcher. We had pitching depth (on paper). We had reputedly the best bullpen in baseball. Sanchez would surely get his hitting act together, wouldn't he? Everyone was healthy. LeMahieu, Voit, Judge, Stanton, Torres, Sanchez, Urshela. That was an awesome first seven hitters (on paper). We can't blame covid. That was a minor factor. Remember when Stanton and Judge went down, and the Yankees were still winning games. Then key guys who were hitting well would be benched a game or two. Maybe two of those guys sat down in the same game. And, then the losses started. And then there were some tragic in-game decisions. And then the losses began to spiral out of control. Did the players start to press? It just seems like it didn't have to be this bad. It feels like there were a lot of management decisions that were poorly made. Looking backwards, it is hard to see how this team is playing as badly as they are. Too many double headers led to too many rest days and having some of the aaa or aaaa type players play just leads to disaster. These guys had 9 months of rest from October 20th till July 23 they don't need all this extra rest. This all basically started when they beat the Red Sox and went to 15-6. Since then they are 6-13, have had multiple injuries, and lots of double headers. I don't think that weekend off helped either. |
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Post by inger on Sept 6, 2020 18:26:38 GMT -5
This was the year it was supposed to come together. We had an absolute ace pitcher. We had pitching depth (on paper). We had reputedly the best bullpen in baseball. Sanchez would surely get his hitting act together, wouldn't he? Everyone was healthy. LeMahieu, Voit, Judge, Stanton, Torres, Sanchez, Urshela. That was an awesome first seven hitters (on paper). We can't blame covid. That was a minor factor. Remember when Stanton and Judge went down, and the Yankees were still winning games. Then key guys who were hitting well would be benched a game or two. Maybe two of those guys sat down in the same game. And, then the losses started. And then there were some tragic in-game decisions. And then the losses began to spiral out of control. Did the players start to press? It just seems like it didn't have to be this bad. It feels like there were a lot of management decisions that were poorly made. Looking backwards, it is hard to see how this team is playing as badly as they are. Too many double headers led to too many rest days and having some of the aaa or aaaa type players play just leads to disaster. These guys had 9 months of rest from October 20th till July 23 they don't need all this extra rest. This all basically started when they beat the Red Sox and went to 15-6. Since then they are 6-13, have had multiple injuries, and lots of double headers. I don't think that weekend off helped either. Other teams are facing similar challenges with the exception of the injuries. The odds in this game will eventually even up. Last years “next man up” challenges led to great fortune. This year, not so much... No more Maybin, no more Romine (big mistake there), Ford is out of oil... Bullpen throwing gas on the fire, and Boone’s rest day policy is hurting the team ever more. The extra players on the roster this season seem to be offering Boone more options than he can handle as well... |
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Post by anthonyd46 on Sept 6, 2020 18:48:19 GMT -5
Too many double headers led to too many rest days and having some of the aaa or aaaa type players play just leads to disaster. These guys had 9 months of rest from October 20th till July 23 they don't need all this extra rest. This all basically started when they beat the Red Sox and went to 15-6. Since then they are 6-13, have had multiple injuries, and lots of double headers. I don't think that weekend off helped either. Other teams are facing similar challenges with the exception of the injuries. The odds in this game will eventually even up. Last years “next man up” challenges led to great fortune. This year, not so much... No more Maybin, no more Romine (big mistake there), Ford is out of oil... Bullpen throwing gas on the fire, and Boone’s rest day policy is hurting the team ever more. The extra players on the roster this season seem to be offering Boone more options than he can handle as well... I just don't see a need to rest some of these guys with the double headers being only 7 innings why can't some of these guys play both games? |
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Post by ernesto on Sept 6, 2020 20:41:03 GMT -5
Other teams are facing similar challenges with the exception of the injuries. The odds in this game will eventually even up. Last years “next man up” challenges led to great fortune. This year, not so much... No more Maybin, no more Romine (big mistake there), Ford is out of oil... Bullpen throwing gas on the fire, and Boone’s rest day policy is hurting the team ever more. The extra players on the roster this season seem to be offering Boone more options than he can handle as well... I just don't see a need to rest some of these guys with the double headers being only 7 innings why can't some of these guys play both games? The answer is they can. Are you going to tell me the player of today is not as strong, or as manly, or whatever as the old-time players? What was the number of doubleheaders (9 innings too) that Berra caught both games in his career? I think it is 118 times. This is craziness when a manager consistently does not put his best team on the field. |
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Post by noetsi on Sept 6, 2020 20:42:19 GMT -5
To many injuries although that does not explain some events like Sanchez. Its not clear we will even make the play offs..
Hopefully the let andujar continue to play
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Post by inger on Sept 7, 2020 13:52:22 GMT -5
Reviewing what, besides injuries, is wrong. The team is not pitching well, nor hitting well. I think there are a couple of other issues that are getting glossed over.
At times this season our base running has been horrible. Torres plays like the kid in Little League that would just keep running until someone tagged him. Tauchman has been over-aggressive at times as well. Even Wade has been caught napping a time or two. I don’t know if it’s the players or the base running coaches causing the problem. Maybe with runs at a premium the team has tried to force errors by the defense too much, and the opposing defense has responded by making good plays.
Then, we have our defense. The outfield has been primarily an amalgam of our best defensive players, but we’ve tempted fate in LF with Andujar, and we’ve paid for it. Torres has regressed at SS this year. We miss Didi. Voit is not a good fielder at first base. He’s not the worst first baseman I’ve ever seen, but he’s not helping his infield mates, either. And now here’s Andujar in the field again. I’m glad his bat seems to be waking up, but I want Urshela back.
Finally, Sanchez. New catching coach on hand. The miracle worker we stole from Minnesota. Well, the student seems to be struggling with the new instruction. Still passed balls. They just won’t go away. He’s not exactly saving our pitchers WP numbers with remarkable blocks. Lots of extra opportunities for base runners to advance.
Okay. So Sanchez wasn’t “Finally”. The manager is off, too.
Bizarre line up choices, improbable rest days granted by players that don’t want them. Weird bullpen choices, many of which have been caused by short starting pitcher outings. Then, we get a good start rolling, and Mr. Boone pulls the pitcher early for a struggling bullpen.
The team is still a walking infirmary. That’s unfortunate. We simply do not have any single facet of the game working well over the last 19 games. We deserve our 6-13 record over that time. Personally, I don’t see this slide stopping until we can somewhat normalize the available roster through healing. I’m not confident that’s going to happen any time soon...
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Post by ernesto on Sept 7, 2020 14:19:40 GMT -5
yeah, inger. It's all of that and more. The most aggressive hitter we have is Voit. Too many of our lineup will take a first pitch down the middle, than swing at a breaking ball off the plate, and watch as the pitcher nibbles the corners and gets the called third strike. That drives me nuts. They ought to be ready to hit the first good pitch, but they seem to want to take one, or two, or more. We have seen that happen too many times.
We knew the CBS teams were weak, but they were better than what Boone is running out there.
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Post by inger on Sept 7, 2020 15:22:08 GMT -5
yeah, inger. It's all of that and more. The most aggressive hitter we have is Voit. Too many of our lineup will take a first pitch down the middle, than swing at a breaking ball off the plate, and watch as the pitcher nibbles the corners and gets the called third strike. That drives me nuts. They ought to be ready to hit the first good pitch, but they seem to want to take one, or two, or more. We have seen that happen too many times. We knew the CBS teams were weak, but they were better than what Boone is running out there. We could use a Celerino Sanchez today... |
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Post by bearman on Sept 8, 2020 8:59:57 GMT -5
I agree with every post on this thread. Someone said it here or somewhere else that we have too many designated hitters on this team. Voit, Stanton, Andujar(I don't count Ford because he can't hit). Sanchez can't DH or catch. Our defense has been little league(ish) but some of that might have to do with all the injuries. I keep waiting for someone to step up like last year but no one has. Cashman has been lauded for his moves in the past but I don't see how our catching situation got to the point it has. We had hope that Sanchez would rebound but that hasn't happened. What to do about the catching situation may be the biggest question we face in the offseason. God I miss Romine. Tauchman has seemed to disappear as well.
It appears that Frazier has worked to become a serviceable fielder and with another spring training should get better. Perhaps Andujar can do the same but it will have to be in left field. Garcia has looked good and that gives me hope. Maybe Florial will be able to contribute next year as well. Who would have thought at this point we are worrying about making the playoffs? I wouldn't have.
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Post by Renfield on Sept 8, 2020 11:04:33 GMT -5
Reviewing what, besides injuries, is wrong. The team is not pitching well, nor hitting well. I think there are a couple of other issues that are getting glossed over. At times this season our base running has been horrible. Torres plays like the kid in Little League that would just keep running until someone tagged him. Tauchman has been over-aggressive at times as well. Even Wade has been caught napping a time or two. I don’t know if it’s the players or the base running coaches causing the problem. Maybe with runs at a premium the team has tried to force errors by the defense too much, and the opposing defense has responded by making good plays. Then, we have our defense. The outfield has been primarily an amalgam of our best defensive players, but we’ve tempted fate in LF with Andujar, and we’ve paid for it. Torres has regressed at SS this year. We miss Didi. Voit is not a good fielder at first base. He’s not the worst first baseman I’ve ever seen, but he’s not helping his infield mates, either. And now here’s Andujar in the field again. I’m glad his bat seems to be waking up, but I want Urshela back. Finally, Sanchez. New catching coach on hand. The miracle worker we stole from Minnesota. Well, the student seems to be struggling with the new instruction. Still passed balls. They just won’t go away. He’s not exactly saving our pitchers WP numbers with remarkable blocks. Lots of extra opportunities for base runners to advance. Okay. So Sanchez wasn’t “Finally”. The manager is off, too. Bizarre line up choices, improbable rest days granted by players that don’t want them. Weird bullpen choices, many of which have been caused by short starting pitcher outings. Then, we get a good start rolling, and Mr. Boone pulls the pitcher early for a struggling bullpen. The team is still a walking infirmary. That’s unfortunate. We simply do not have any single facet of the game working well over the last 19 games. We deserve our 6-13 record over that time. Personally, I don’t see this slide stopping until we can somewhat normalize the available roster through healing. I’m not confident that’s going to happen any time soon... That's a pretty accurate assessment, inger. Wish it weren't. |
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