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Post by desousa on Sept 20, 2024 19:53:47 GMT -5
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Post by qimqam on Sept 21, 2024 9:34:28 GMT -5
I'd be very surprised if Yanks re-signed Rizzo. Much will depend on what Rice does during Spring Training. Regardless, there still needs to be a legit backup. Cabrera can handle the job defensively, but it'd mean he'd hit from his weak side (RH). Also, like it or not, DJ will still be on the roster for another 2 years. I can see the Yankees not picking up Rizzo's 17 million dollar option, but sign him to a team friendly contract to share time/backup at 1B with Rice/Rumsfield. Rice can also get at bats as a backup Catcher if Rumfield also makes the team and Trevino is traded.
Not sure if the Yankees would start the season with Durbin/Peraza at 2B and unproven MLB players like Rice/Rumsfield at 1B. I can see a scenario where Rizzo starts the season as the Yankees 1Bman with either Rice or Rumsfield eventually becoming the starting 1Bman, similar to how Wells eventually became the starter over Trevino.
I think DJ will be traded. If not, he's an infield utility player along with OC and Berti. OF backups would be OC and Grisham.
Do you really think there is a team willing to take DJ and his contract ?? If there is the Yankees should absolutely throw in Stanton who is a much better value at this point
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Post by qimqam on Sept 21, 2024 9:42:01 GMT -5
Agreed. The Yankees should make him their very best take it or leave it offer. In my opinion, that offer would make Soto the highest paid MLB player.
If he doesn't like the Yankees offer, no need for the Yankees to waste time trying to sign him and in the process miss out on signing other free agents like Santander, Burnes, Tanner Scott.
How would Willy Adames look in a Yankee uniform ? Maybe Gleyber stays in New York...Jazz goes to center and # 99 back to RF ? There are a lot of players having career years particularly power and stolen bases ... I'd be real careful with free agent hitters this year and focus on pitching Burns should absolutely be the #1 target after Soto
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Post by Max on Sept 21, 2024 12:11:30 GMT -5
I can see the Yankees not picking up Rizzo's 17 million dollar option, but sign him to a team friendly contract to share time/backup at 1B with Rice/Rumsfield. Rice can also get at bats as a backup Catcher if Rumfield also makes the team and Trevino is traded.
Not sure if the Yankees would start the season with Durbin/Peraza at 2B and unproven MLB players like Rice/Rumsfield at 1B. I can see a scenario where Rizzo starts the season as the Yankees 1Bman with either Rice or Rumsfield eventually becoming the starting 1Bman, similar to how Wells eventually became the starter over Trevino.
I think DJ will be traded. If not, he's an infield utility player along with OC and Berti. OF backups would be OC and Grisham.
An article I read said the Yankees would most likely pass on the 17mm 1 year but might be interested in a compromise of 2/20. I can't recall who the writer was and how informed his position was. I just think the Yankees need to start learining it's probably better to get rid of a player 1 year too soon than several years too late. I understand exactly what you're saying. I could be wrong, but I'm not sure if the Yankees want to start their 2025 season with too many unproven players if they can have a veteran and team leader like Rizzo on their roster with a team friendly contract.
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Post by Max on Sept 21, 2024 12:17:01 GMT -5
Signing him could be an option for the Yankees. But I like the idea of the Yankees signing Santander away from the Orioles better. Classic move from "the Boss's" playbook ! He is the Oriole I least want at bat in a big game situation. If the Yankees can't re-sign Soto, Santander can play 1B and all 3 OF positions if the Yankees want to move Judge to RF.
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Post by Max on Sept 21, 2024 12:20:00 GMT -5
I can see the Yankees not picking up Rizzo's 17 million dollar option, but sign him to a team friendly contract to share time/backup at 1B with Rice/Rumsfield. Rice can also get at bats as a backup Catcher if Rumfield also makes the team and Trevino is traded.
Not sure if the Yankees would start the season with Durbin/Peraza at 2B and unproven MLB players like Rice/Rumsfield at 1B. I can see a scenario where Rizzo starts the season as the Yankees 1Bman with either Rice or Rumsfield eventually becoming the starting 1Bman, similar to how Wells eventually became the starter over Trevino.
I think DJ will be traded. If not, he's an infield utility player along with OC and Berti. OF backups would be OC and Grisham.
Do you really think there is a team willing to take DJ and his contract ?? If there is the Yankees should absolutely throw in Stanton who is a much better value at this point Yes, I think there are teams that would trade for DJ, if the Yankees pay some of his contract.
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Post by ypaterson on Sept 21, 2024 12:48:01 GMT -5
Classic move from "the Boss's" playbook ! He is the Oriole I least want at bat in a big game situation. If the Yankees can't re-sign Soto, Santander can play 1B and all 3 OF positions if the Yankees want to move Judge to RF. That works for me.
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Post by qimqam on Sept 21, 2024 13:32:30 GMT -5
Do you really think there is a team willing to take DJ and his contract ?? If there is the Yankees should absolutely throw in Stanton who is a much better value at this point Yes, I think there are teams that would trade for DJ, if the Yankees pay some of his contract. But DJ is a 10/5 guy Which is the equivilent of a no trade clause ... So is Stanton I think Stanton has more value at his salary then DJ I'd luve to trade them both ...
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Post by chiyankee on Sept 21, 2024 14:24:58 GMT -5
How would Willy Adames look in a Yankee uniform ? Maybe Gleyber stays in New York...Jazz goes to center and # 99 back to RF ? There are a lot of players having career years particularly power and stolen bases ... I'd be real careful with free agent hitters this year and focus on pitching Burns should absolutely be the #1 target after Soto I think the Yanks just hope that an off season of rest and rehab and help DJ get somewhat back to what he used to be, but if during spring training, he looks as bad as he did this year, they have to cut bait and eat the contract.
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Post by Max on Sept 21, 2024 15:03:14 GMT -5
Yes, I think there are teams that would trade for DJ, if the Yankees pay some of his contract. But DJ is a 10/5 guy Which is the equivilent of a no trade clause ... So is Stanton I think Stanton has more value at his salary then DJ I'd luve to trade them both ... As you know players with no trade clauses have been traded. I like the idea of the Yankees signing Soto and Burnes if they have room in their budget. My guess is that the Yankees would have to pay of Stanton's contract for them to be able to trade him.
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Post by inger on Sept 21, 2024 15:17:06 GMT -5
But DJ is a 10/5 guy Which is the equivilent of a no trade clause ... So is Stanton I think Stanton has more value at his salary then DJ I'd luve to trade them both ... As you know players with no trade clauses have been traded. I like the idea of the Yankees signing Soto and Burnes if they have room in their budget. My guess is that the Yankees would have to pay of Stanton's contract for them to be able to trade him. Teams have had worse DH’s…
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Post by azbob643 on Sept 21, 2024 15:23:07 GMT -5
As you know players with no trade clauses have been traded. I like the idea of the Yankees signing Soto and Burnes if they have room in their budget. My guess is that the Yankees would have to pay of Stanton's contract for them to be able to trade him. Teams have had worse DH’s… The problem with Stanton is he's an obstacle in putting together a more productive lineup with the Yanks. That may be different with another team.
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Post by inger on Sept 21, 2024 17:30:00 GMT -5
Teams have had worse DH’s… The problem with Stanton is he's an obstacle in putting together a more productive lineup with the Yanks. That may be different with another team. That’s a functional problem of management. His salary shouldn’t determine his role, which should simply be to bat against targeted pitchers, whether as a DH or PH. Period. If assigned that roll and specifically used that way, he would quickly ask to be sent somewhere where he could play a larger roll. He should be informed that is his future roll, so he can be allowed to ask to go elsewhere. I think that has started with the promotion of Jasson Dominguez. It’s being done much more gently than I would do it. The next step would be to leave him off the post season roster…
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Post by azbob643 on Sept 21, 2024 17:44:49 GMT -5
The problem with Stanton is he's an obstacle in putting together a more productive lineup with the Yanks. That may be different with another team. That’s a functional problem of management. His salary shouldn’t determine his role, which should simply be to bat against targeted pitchers, whether as a DH or PH. Period. If assigned that roll and specifically used that way, he would quickly ask to be sent somewhere where he could play a larger roll. He should be informed that is his future roll, so he can be allowed to ask to go elsewhere. I think that has started with the promotion of Jasson Dominguez. It’s being done much more gently than I would do it. The next step would be to leave him off the post season roster… We're all painfully aware of his hot/cold streaks, and how long it takes for him to get back into a groove after coming back from an injury. Batting him sporadically only against specific targeted pitchers may make his comebacks even more drawn out, if not non-existent. I don't think he's averse to moving on to another team right now...San Diego might be a good fit; I'd have to look more closely at their roster. Anaheim looks even better. I think the Yanks' reluctance to eat a large portion of his contract is what really stands in the way of moving him.
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Post by desousa on Sept 22, 2024 6:56:08 GMT -5
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