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Post by kaybli on Jan 13, 2022 15:31:46 GMT -5
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Post by anthonyd46 on Jan 13, 2022 15:57:48 GMT -5
Sorry Kaybli was on my phone and missed this thread.
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Post by kaybli on Jan 13, 2022 16:00:30 GMT -5
Sorry Kaybli was on my phone and missed this thread. No worries.
Sad state of affairs in the MLB right now.  |
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Post by kaybli on Jan 13, 2022 16:52:38 GMT -5
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Post by anthonyd46 on Jan 13, 2022 17:11:56 GMT -5
This doesn't sound good. Gotta wonder what free agency is even going to look like if they don't agree on anything before April or so. |
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Post by inger on Jan 13, 2022 20:29:51 GMT -5
Pardon me, kind sir. I am a major league player with a dire need to utilize the facilities. Oh, no you shan’t. These facilities are not available to the players at this time due to the lack of a current bargains agreement. Look, I gotta take a dump! We currently have let all staff go in a cost-cutter measure due to the strike. You may however use the facilities on the ground floor of the Ritz Carlton’s in most major cities for your convenience. We have paid twice as much for that so the we can make a point with you players. What is the point, kind sir? Who cares? That’s the point…Guards! Gendarmes. Please escort this filth away. He’s soiled his pants, as have I. But the soil I make is very pleasant, for I am a wealthy owner, who only feeds on the best! |
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Post by Renfield on Jan 13, 2022 22:44:32 GMT -5
Pardon me, kind sir. I am a major league player with a dire need to utilize the facilities. Oh, no you shan’t. These facilities are not available to the players at this time due to the lack of a current bargains agreement. Look, I gotta take a dump! We currently have let all staff go in a cost-cutter measure due to the strike. You may however use the facilities on the ground floor of the Ritz Carlton’s in most major cities for your convenience. We have paid twice as much for that so the we can make a point with you players. What is the point, kind sir? Who cares? That’s the point…Guards! Gendarmes. Please escort this filth away. He’s soiled his pants, as have I. But the soil I make is very pleasant, for I am a wealthy owner, who only feeds on the best! Hey. What good is a lockout if you can't, you know, actually lock somebody out of something. |
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Post by inger on Jan 13, 2022 23:44:19 GMT -5
Pardon me, kind sir. I am a major league player with a dire need to utilize the facilities. Oh, no you shan’t. These facilities are not available to the players at this time due to the lack of a current bargains agreement. Look, I gotta take a dump! We currently have let all staff go in a cost-cutter measure due to the strike. You may however use the facilities on the ground floor of the Ritz Carlton’s in most major cities for your convenience. We have paid twice as much for that so the we can make a point with you players. What is the point, kind sir? Who cares? That’s the point…Guards! Gendarmes. Please escort this filth away. He’s soiled his pants, as have I. But the soil I make is very pleasant, for I am a wealthy owner, who only feeds on the best! Hey. What good is a lockout if you can't, you know, actually lock somebody out of something. Geez. It’s always in the details, isn’t it? Locked out. It all makes so much more sense now… |
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Post by kaybli on Jan 13, 2022 23:50:42 GMT -5
Pardon me, kind sir. I am a major league player with a dire need to utilize the facilities. Oh, no you shan’t. These facilities are not available to the players at this time due to the lack of a current bargains agreement. Look, I gotta take a dump! We currently have let all staff go in a cost-cutter measure due to the strike. You may however use the facilities on the ground floor of the Ritz Carlton’s in most major cities for your convenience. We have paid twice as much for that so the we can make a point with you players. What is the point, kind sir? Who cares? That’s the point…Guards! Gendarmes. Please escort this filth away. He’s soiled his pants, as have I. But the soil I make is very pleasant, for I am a wealthy owner, who only feeds on the best! Hey. What good is a lockout if you can't, you know, actually lock somebody out of something.  |
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Post by inger on Jan 14, 2022 0:01:02 GMT -5
Lock me Amadeus
Lock me, Baby
Lock at me,
I’m as helpless
As a kitten in a tree.
There’s a girl my lord
In a flat bed Ford
Slowing down to
Take lock at me…
Such an inspired moment. I feel like I could have several generational hits here. I’m just dripping with uninspired genius. My time has come
I feel shivers up my spine
Body’s achin’
All the time…
I’ll have to stay up and work this one for a while tonight…
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Post by anthonyd46 on Jan 14, 2022 2:31:02 GMT -5
So the Yankees have solved exactly none of their roster issues and now might have a super limited free agency period to fix the team.
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Post by kaybli on Jan 14, 2022 8:14:41 GMT -5
So the Yankees have solved exactly none of their roster issues and now might have a super limited free agency period to fix the team. Pretty much. Let's see if they can pull a rabbit out of the hat. |
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Post by anthonyd46 on Jan 14, 2022 10:16:25 GMT -5
So the Yankees have solved exactly none of their roster issues and now might have a super limited free agency period to fix the team. Pretty much. Let's see if they can pull a rabbit out of the hat. It's is just amazing everything that has happened to this team since ALCS game 7 2017 when it seemed like at worst a World Series appearance was in the near future. |
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Post by kaybli on Jan 14, 2022 15:41:42 GMT -5
Details On Today’s CBA NegotiationsThe owners and players met today to discuss core economic issues for the first time since the start of the lockout, even if today’s talks seemingly didn’t result in much (or any) common ground being found between the two sides. Ronald Blum of The Associated Press reports that the session lasted roughly an hour, with the league presenting its proposal, and the players then agreeing to make an official response and counter-proposal at an unspecified future bargaining session. As one might expect, reports have already begun to filter out about the players’ dissatisfaction with the league’s proposal well in advance of any official response the union might make. For starters, MLB’s proposal didn’t address luxury tax thresholds or free-agent eligibility whatsoever, and the MLBPA has made clear their dissatisfaction with the current rules regarding both issues. According to Blum, The Athletic’s Evan Drellich, ESPN’s Jeff Passan and Jesse Rogers, and other reporters, here are some of the proposals floated by the league in today’s talks… -In regards to the top pick in the amateur draft, the teams with the three worst records would be involved in a lottery, with the winner receiving the first overall pick. This is similar to a previous league proposal, except this time, MLB added that a team wouldn’t be allowed to take part in the lottery for three consecutive seasons (to help address tanking). The MLBPA has also wanted a draft lottery, except a larger process involving the eight teams with the worst records.
-A draft for international players, as opposed to the current “July 2” international signing window and bonus pool system. The elimination of the “Super Two” arbitration system, as players who would count as Super Two-eligible in the future would have salaries determined by a formula. The league’s proposal offers some leeway, as players with even one day of MLB current service time would have the option of taking part in this new system or opting to remain in the old system. Regardless of this grandfather clause for current union members, the MLBPA isn’t keen on the idea of any statistical-based calculation tied to salary, such as the league’s prior proposal to entirely eliminate the salary arbitration process.
-If a team has a top 100-ranked prospect on its Opening Day roster, and that player finishes in the top five in voting for a major award (the MVP, Cy Young, or Rookie Of The Year) during one of his arbitration-eligible seasons, the team would receive a bonus draft pick. The idea is to provide a benefit for teams so they won’t hold back top prospects for service-time reasons, as extra playing time might help a player earn an award like the
ROY as soon as possible. According to Passan/Rogers, players have some reservations about this idea, including concerns over how the list of “top prospects” eligible would be determined. (MLBTR’s Tim Dierkes is more bullish on the concept, as outlined in this Twitter thread.)
-An expanded playoff bracket, with 14 teams reaching the postseason. The players have expressed an openness for a 12-team postseason in the past, though as Sportsnet’s Ben Nicholson-Smith notes, an expanded playoff is “arguably players’ biggest bargaining chip” given how much the league and the owners want that extra postseason TV revenue.
-The use of the DH in both the American and National Leagues. The universal DH has widely been expected to be part of this CBA, and Susan Slusser of The San Francisco Chronicle writes that the players union seems agreeable to the idea as long as the universal DH isn’t “tied to something else as a bargaining chip.”
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Post by inger on Jan 14, 2022 17:01:31 GMT -5
Details On Today’s CBA NegotiationsThe owners and players met today to discuss core economic issues for the first time since the start of the lockout, even if today’s talks seemingly didn’t result in much (or any) common ground being found between the two sides. Ronald Blum of The Associated Press reports that the session lasted roughly an hour, with the league presenting its proposal, and the players then agreeing to make an official response and counter-proposal at an unspecified future bargaining session. As one might expect, reports have already begun to filter out about the players’ dissatisfaction with the league’s proposal well in advance of any official response the union might make. For starters, MLB’s proposal didn’t address luxury tax thresholds or free-agent eligibility whatsoever, and the MLBPA has made clear their dissatisfaction with the current rules regarding both issues. According to Blum, The Athletic’s Evan Drellich, ESPN’s Jeff Passan and Jesse Rogers, and other reporters, here are some of the proposals floated by the league in today’s talks… -In regards to the top pick in the amateur draft, the teams with the three worst records would be involved in a lottery, with the winner receiving the first overall pick. This is similar to a previous league proposal, except this time, MLB added that a team wouldn’t be allowed to take part in the lottery for three consecutive seasons (to help address tanking). The MLBPA has also wanted a draft lottery, except a larger process involving the eight teams with the worst records.
-A draft for international players, as opposed to the current “July 2” international signing window and bonus pool system. The elimination of the “Super Two” arbitration system, as players who would count as Super Two-eligible in the future would have salaries determined by a formula. The league’s proposal offers some leeway, as players with even one day of MLB current service time would have the option of taking part in this new system or opting to remain in the old system. Regardless of this grandfather clause for current union members, the MLBPA isn’t keen on the idea of any statistical-based calculation tied to salary, such as the league’s prior proposal to entirely eliminate the salary arbitration process.
-If a team has a top 100-ranked prospect on its Opening Day roster, and that player finishes in the top five in voting for a major award (the MVP, Cy Young, or Rookie Of The Year) during one of his arbitration-eligible seasons, the team would receive a bonus draft pick. The idea is to provide a benefit for teams so they won’t hold back top prospects for service-time reasons, as extra playing time might help a player earn an award like the
ROY as soon as possible. According to Passan/Rogers, players have some reservations about this idea, including concerns over how the list of “top prospects” eligible would be determined. (MLBTR’s Tim Dierkes is more bullish on the concept, as outlined in this Twitter thread.)
-An expanded playoff bracket, with 14 teams reaching the postseason. The players have expressed an openness for a 12-team postseason in the past, though as Sportsnet’s Ben Nicholson-Smith notes, an expanded playoff is “arguably players’ biggest bargaining chip” given how much the league and the owners want that extra postseason TV revenue.
-The use of the DH in both the American and National Leagues. The universal DH has widely been expected to be part of this CBA, and Susan Slusser of The San Francisco Chronicle writes that the players union seems agreeable to the idea as long as the universal DH isn’t “tied to something else as a bargaining chip.” Meanwhile, the fans are advised to take a flying leap because no nevcares what we want… |
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