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Post by inger on Dec 2, 2022 21:58:52 GMT -5
We’ve seen this before with A-Rod and probably Jeter, too… There was no chase for Jeter because he made it clear prior to negotiations that he was not going to entertain any offers from other teams and would never play anywhere else but the Yankees, essentially remove all leverage from his negotiations. The only thing he asked was that the process be kept out of the press. Cashman, of course, made it public for no reason. The Yankees extended A-Rod's contract before it ended. A-Rod had an opt out clause. Cashman gambled on not extending Judge and lost. Cashman is a prick when it comes to people. I believe he really thinks he's responsible for the Yankees' World Series championships from 1998 to 2009. It’s not nice to call a man you don’t know a prick. If you examine the situation a bit deeper you will see that he’s an emotionless prick. Do your homework next time… 🤓 |
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Post by anthonyd46 on Dec 3, 2022 1:20:10 GMT -5
We’ve seen this before with A-Rod and probably Jeter, too… There was no chase for Jeter because he made it clear prior to negotiations that he was not going to entertain any offers from other teams and would never play anywhere else but the Yankees, essentially remove all leverage from his negotiations. The only thing he asked was that the process be kept out of the press. Cashman, of course, made it public for no reason. The Yankees extended A-Rod's contract before it ended. A-Rod had an opt out clause. Cashman gambled on not extending Judge and lost. Cashman is a prick when it comes to people. I believe he really thinks he's responsible for the Yankees' World Series championships from 1998 to 2009. A-Rod did opt though in 2007 after his MVP season. I know this isn't an opt out and it's a contract end for Judge, but it's very similar where both were on the open market after an MVP season with the Yankees. However most of that was Boras trying to up the prices and whatever we have no idea if Judges agent is just blowing smoke with the Giants stuff. Like I said Passan is usually right about this stuff so I dunno where Morosi is getting that it's anywhere near 50/50. Obviously Judge is way more beloved by Yankee fans than A-rod ever was, but its def more similar than Jeter's contract. |
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Post by rizzuto on Dec 3, 2022 2:36:18 GMT -5
There was no chase for Jeter because he made it clear prior to negotiations that he was not going to entertain any offers from other teams and would never play anywhere else but the Yankees, essentially remove all leverage from his negotiations. The only thing he asked was that the process be kept out of the press. Cashman, of course, made it public for no reason. The Yankees extended A-Rod's contract before it ended. A-Rod had an opt out clause. Cashman gambled on not extending Judge and lost. Cashman is a prick when it comes to people. I believe he really thinks he's responsible for the Yankees' World Series championships from 1998 to 2009. A-Rod did opt though in 2007 after his MVP season. I know this isn't an opt out and it's a contract end for Judge, but it's very similar where both were on the open market after an MVP season with the Yankees. However most of that was Boras trying to up the prices and whatever we have no idea if Judges agent is just blowing smoke with the Giants stuff. Like I said Passan is usually right about this stuff so I dunno where Morosi is getting that it's anywhere near 50/50. Obviously Judge is way more beloved by Yankee fans than A-rod ever was, but its def more similar than Jeter's contract. A-Rod did not hit the open market; he was extended before, which is why he did not opt out. |
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Post by anthonyd46 on Dec 3, 2022 2:45:29 GMT -5
A-Rod did opt though in 2007 after his MVP season. I know this isn't an opt out and it's a contract end for Judge, but it's very similar where both were on the open market after an MVP season with the Yankees. However most of that was Boras trying to up the prices and whatever we have no idea if Judges agent is just blowing smoke with the Giants stuff. Like I said Passan is usually right about this stuff so I dunno where Morosi is getting that it's anywhere near 50/50. Obviously Judge is way more beloved by Yankee fans than A-rod ever was, but its def more similar than Jeter's contract. A-Rod did not hit the open market; he was extended before, which is why he did not opt out. He 100% opted out. Remember the whole thing where he announced it during the Red Sox/Rockies World Series??? www.espn.com/mlb/news/story?id=3084583 |
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Post by anthonyd46 on Dec 3, 2022 2:59:22 GMT -5
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Post by rizzuto on Dec 3, 2022 9:55:21 GMT -5
A-Rod did not hit the open market; he was extended before, which is why he did not opt out. He 100% opted out. Remember the whole thing where he announced it during the Red Sox/Rockies World Series??? www.espn.com/mlb/news/story?id=3084583Thank you for the clarification of my faulty memory, Anthony. I have a completely different and wrong recollection. I appreciate the recalibration and correction reset.  |
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Post by acuraman on Dec 3, 2022 17:43:57 GMT -5
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Post by domeplease on Dec 3, 2022 18:04:30 GMT -5
If WE go 9-Years = Might end up with another Tex, Ellsbury, Stanton TYPES, etc. = The older they get the worse their Stats get (with a few exceptions, etc.).
Let S.F. sign him for nine years and lets sign two more starting pitchers -- We Florial for CF--Cabera for RF and re-sign binny.
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Post by acuraman on Dec 3, 2022 19:00:33 GMT -5
LOL...Florial CF - we already have a CF - Bader
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Post by chiyankee on Dec 3, 2022 19:15:25 GMT -5
LOL...Florial CF - we already have a CF - Bader I don't know Florial's status, but if he's out of options, he's going to be DFA'd. |
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Post by anthonyd46 on Dec 3, 2022 19:26:51 GMT -5
If WE go 9-Years = Might end up with another Tex, Ellsbury, Stanton TYPES, etc. = The older they get the worse their Stats get (with a few exceptions, etc.).
Let S.F. sign him for nine years and lets sign two more starting pitchers -- We Florial for CF--Cabera for RF and re-sign binny.
I still feel we don't even have a real feel of how much of a threat the giants actually are we don't even know their offer and all these leaks seem to be Yankee based only. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Post by acuraman on Dec 3, 2022 19:27:38 GMT -5
LOL...Florial CF - we already have a CF - Bader I don't know Florial's status, but if he's out of options, he's going to be DFA'd. yep...totally forgot about that.  |
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Post by acuraman on Dec 3, 2022 19:29:49 GMT -5
If WE go 9-Years = Might end up with another Tex, Ellsbury, Stanton TYPES, etc. = The older they get the worse their Stats get (with a few exceptions, etc.).
Let S.F. sign him for nine years and lets sign two more starting pitchers -- We Florial for CF--Cabera for RF and re-sign binny.
I still feel we don't even have a real feel of how much of a threat the giants actually are we don't even know their offer and all these leaks seem to be Yankee based only. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I agree...but if the Giants didn't make an offer that means Judge only has one offer on the table. Why is it taking him so long to decide? |
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Post by kaybli on Dec 3, 2022 19:35:11 GMT -5
I still feel we don't even have a real feel of how much of a threat the giants actually are we don't even know their offer and all these leaks seem to be Yankee based only. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I agree...but if the Giants didn't make an offer that means Judge only has one offer on the table. Why is it taking him so long to decide? Probably waiting for another offer to materialize so the Yanks increase their bid. |
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Post by chiyankee on Dec 3, 2022 19:58:23 GMT -5
I agree...but if the Giants didn't make an offer that means Judge only has one offer on the table. Why is it taking him so long to decide? Probably waiting for another offer to materialize so the Yanks increase their bid. Judge's camp know the Yanks won't pull their offer, so they can wait. |
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