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Post by qimqam on Mar 15, 2024 12:58:25 GMT -5
The Year after Cease was 2nd in the Cy Young he put up almost identical numbers to Schmidt ... and Cease was completely healthy Not saying he's not better than Schmidt just saying there' no way I trade top prospects for a guy coming off starter 5 numbers 3 of 5 seasons ... Cease has had a WHIP over 1.4 Are there any cherries left on that poor cherry tree? What's this "year after" business? If you're going to compare pitchers like you did wouldn't the fair way to do so is to look at their career numbers? His trade value was higher in the past, but I said a trade for Cease wasn't going to be cheap, and it wasn't. I dont know ?? You Tell me about an hour ago Max said:
Qimqam, the year after Stanton won the MVP |
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Post by posadafan24 on Mar 15, 2024 13:02:13 GMT -5
Are there any cherries left on that poor cherry tree? What's this "year after" business? If you're going to compare pitchers like you did wouldn't the fair way to do so is to look at their career numbers? His trade value was higher in the past, but I said a trade for Cease wasn't going to be cheap, and it wasn't. I dont know ?? You Tell me about an hour ago Max said:
Qimqam, the year after Stanton won the MVP Max accuses us of cherry picking and yet keeps going back to the one year cease placed second on cy young to bolster their argument . |
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Post by Max on Mar 15, 2024 13:02:43 GMT -5
I guess you're not counting winning % either. You said Cease was "very good number 3 starter." I said Cease has top of the rotation stuff. Is there that big of a difference between those 2 opinions? Can you name a #3 starter that has K rate and swing and miss ratio that Cease has? You must have been convinced that german was an ace after he won 18 games a few years ago . Wins and losses dont mean much because it can easily be affected by run support , errors , etc . Btw i already explained to you that there is more to an ace than just strike outs . I haven't even called Cease an Ace. Don't speak for me, and I don't need you of all people on this message board to explain anything to me. Try working on speaking for yourself since you contradict yourself in many of your posts. |
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Post by posadafan24 on Mar 15, 2024 13:03:57 GMT -5
You must have been convinced that german was an ace after he won 18 games a few years ago . Wins and losses dont mean much because it can easily be affected by run support , errors , etc . Btw i already explained to you that there is more to an ace than just strike outs . I haven't even called Cease an Ace. Don't speak for me, and I don't need you of all people on this message board to explain anything to me. Try working on speaking for yourself since you contradict yourself in many of your posts. You have said he has top of the rotation stuff and can be a top of a rotation pitcher , last i checked a top of the rotation pitcher is a guy that usually puts up ace type numbers overall . |
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Post by Max on Mar 15, 2024 13:04:14 GMT -5
Are there any cherries left on that poor cherry tree? What's this "year after" business? If you're going to compare pitchers like you did wouldn't the fair way to do so is to look at their career numbers? His trade value was higher in the past, but I said a trade for Cease wasn't going to be cheap, and it wasn't. I dont know ?? You Tell me about an hour ago Max said:
Qimqam, the year after Stanton won the MVP But then I mentioned the rest of Stanton's career. Did you miss that part? See the difference? |
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Post by Max on Mar 15, 2024 13:04:55 GMT -5
I haven't even called Cease an Ace. Don't speak for me, and I don't need you of all people on this message board to explain anything to me. Try working on speaking for yourself since you contradict yourself in many of your posts. You have said he has top of the rotation stuff and can be a top of a rotation pitcher , last i checked a top of the rotation pitcher is a guy that usually puts up ace type numbers overall . Well, then maybe you need to check again. |
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Post by qimqam on Mar 15, 2024 13:06:20 GMT -5
I dont want to get pulled into Max vs Posada match ... I like watching from outside the ring.
We had a Max vs Posada on the Yes board that was very funny ... Max got upset and I got chastised by the moderators for starting it.
Lol ... It was worth it
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Post by posadafan24 on Mar 15, 2024 13:06:59 GMT -5
You have said he has top of the rotation stuff and can be a top of a rotation pitcher , last i checked a top of the rotation pitcher is a guy that usually puts up ace type numbers overall . Well, then maybe you need to check again. Dont need to , i know you said he has top of the rotation stuff and can be a top of the rotation pitcher . Now are you backing away from that? |
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Post by Max on Mar 15, 2024 13:07:51 GMT -5
I dont know ?? You Tell me about an hour ago Max said:
Qimqam, the year after Stanton won the MVP Max accuses us of cherry picking and yet keeps going back to the one year cease placed second on cy young to bolster their argument . You 2 seem more interested in talking spit, than actually reading. If you took the time to actually read, you would see that I spoke about the careers of both Stanton and Cease and not just 1 year. |
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Post by posadafan24 on Mar 15, 2024 13:09:04 GMT -5
I dont want to get pulled into Max vs Posada match ... I like watching from outside the ring. We had a Max vs Posada on the Yes board that was very funny ... Max got upset and I got chastised by the moderators for starting it. Lol ... It was worth it I dont blame you and you are right but you did put yourself into the cease argument though . Btw do you have any idea when max and that posada person fought on yes? |
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Post by posadafan24 on Mar 15, 2024 13:09:54 GMT -5
Max accuses us of cherry picking and yet keeps going back to the one year cease placed second on cy young to bolster their argument . You 2 seem more interested in talking spit, than actually reading. If you took the time to actually read, you would see that I spoke about the careers of both Stanton and Cease and not just 1 year. Yes but multiple times you went and brought up the season cease was second in cy young voting . |
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Post by Max on Mar 15, 2024 13:19:37 GMT -5
I dont want to get pulled into Max vs Posada match ... I like watching from outside the ring. We had a Max vs Posada on the Yes board that was very funny ... Max got upset and I got chastised by the moderators for starting it. Lol ... It was worth it 1) When you're done "lol" like a clown. Maybe, practice your reading comprehension for the following reasons...
2) You seem to be confused with your "match" with Giancarlo.
3) Max didn't get upset.
4) Max didn't start it
5) Max didn't get chastised by anyone.
6) The monitor said something about YOU (manbot), me, and Giancarlo.
7) Max was the only one with the balls to say something about it.
8) The monitor then sent me a message letting me know that he deleted his own post.
9) You're Welcome.
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Post by Max on Mar 15, 2024 13:22:20 GMT -5
Well, then maybe you need to check again. Dont need to , i know you said he has top of the rotation stuff and can be a top of the rotation pitcher . Now are you backing away from that? Not at all. So tell me the difference between a very good #3 starter and a pitcher with top of the rotation stuff? Then maybe you can tell me of a #3 pitcher with Cease's K rate and swing and miss ratio. |
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Post by posadafan24 on Mar 15, 2024 13:28:29 GMT -5
Dont need to , i know you said he has top of the rotation stuff and can be a top of the rotation pitcher . Now are you backing away from that? Not at all. So tell me the difference between a very good #3 starter and a pitcher with top of the rotation stuff? Then maybe you can tell me of a #3 pitcher with Cease's K rate and swing and miss ratio. Oh i dunno maybe a top of the rotation starter puts up constant eras about 3.5 ? Not multiple seasons of eras of eras from 3.9 to about 4.4 . I mean noone thinks monty is a top of the rotation starter despite putting up mostly similar numbers . |
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Post by Max on Mar 15, 2024 13:33:36 GMT -5
Not at all. So tell me the difference between a very good #3 starter and a pitcher with top of the rotation stuff? Then maybe you can tell me of a #3 pitcher with Cease's K rate and swing and miss ratio. Oh i dunno maybe a top of the rotation starter puts up constant eras about 3.5 ? Not multiple seasons of eras of eras from 3.9 to about 4.4 . I mean noone thinks monty is a top of the rotation starter despite putting up mostly similar numbers . Let me ask again..Can tell me of a #3 pitcher with Cease's K rate and swing and miss ratio. |
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