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Post by Max on Mar 26, 2024 10:29:47 GMT -5
This doesn't mean much, but you never know. Maybe Monty wants to come back?
Unlike Snell, signing Monty won't cost the Yankees draft picks and international bonus money. My guess is that maybe the Yankees offered him a deferred contract? I could be wrong, but I can't see the Yankees paying 110% tax on what might be an estimated 25 million dollar per season contract.
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Post by Max on Mar 26, 2024 10:34:56 GMT -5
We'll the great Florial debate that raged on the YES board may finally be answered. I'm pulling for the kid. The Guardians chose to make Florial their backup centerfielder despite having a dreadful spring training in which he batted .163 in 49 AB with 22 K and 5 BB. Theyre starting a converted infielder named Tyler Freeman with a career OPS of .641 in 254 PA over two seasons. Freeman had a decent spring training batting record.
Either way, I don't think the Guardians have found their starting centerfielder for this season yet. On the other hand, it looks like it'll be a while before Cody Morris does some pitching for the Yanks.
In your opinion...Is there any chance the Yankees look to make Morris a starting pitcher?
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Post by chiyankee on Mar 26, 2024 10:35:26 GMT -5
This doesn't mean much, but you never know. Maybe Monty wants to come back?
Unlike Snell, signing Monty won't cost the Yankees draft picks and international bonus money. My guess is that maybe the Yankees offered him a deferred contract? I could be wrong, but I can't see the Yankees paying 110% tax on what might be an estimated 25 million dollar per season contract. It's believable that they don't want to pay that much tax, but what's the cost of missing the playoffs for the second straight season? If they are clearly out of the post season race in early August, attendance at the Stadium will dwindle.
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Post by 1955nyyfan on Mar 26, 2024 11:21:23 GMT -5
ei Unlike Snell, signing Monty won't cost the Yankees draft picks and international bonus money. My guess is that maybe the Yankees offered him a deferred contract? I could be wrong, but I can't see the Yankees paying 110% tax on what might be an estimated 25 million dollar per season contract. It's believable that they don't want to pay that much tax, but what's the cost of missing the playoffs for the second straight season? If they are clearly out of the post season race in early August, attendance at the Stadium will dwindle. I read an article that said if the Yankees were to fall out of the playoff picture they would look to trade Soto for a haul. It's really hard to imagine a 300mm roster not competing for a playoff spot, which has become somewhat of a low bar with the expanded playoff format. But......when I look at our SP and questions in the BP and a weak bench, it's not inconceivable. I guess $300mm just doesn't go as far as it used to.
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Post by qimqam on Mar 26, 2024 12:23:09 GMT -5
It's believable that they don't want to pay that much tax, but what's the cost of missing the playoffs for the second straight season? If they are clearly out of the post season race in early August, attendance at the Stadium will dwindle. I read an article that said if the Yankees were to fall out of the playoff picture they would look to trade Soto for a haul. It's really hard to imagine a 300mm roster not competing for a playoff spot, which has become somewhat of a low bar with the expanded playoff format. But......when I look at our SP and questions in the BP and a weak bench, it's not inconceivable. I guess $300mm just doesn't go as far as it used to. They could do the same with Monty as long as they arent dumb enough to give him a no trade clause
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Post by pippsheadache on Mar 26, 2024 12:37:04 GMT -5
It's believable that they don't want to pay that much tax, but what's the cost of missing the playoffs for the second straight season? If they are clearly out of the post season race in early August, attendance at the Stadium will dwindle. I read an article that said if the Yankees were to fall out of the playoff picture they would look to trade Soto for a haul. It's really hard to imagine a 300mm roster not competing for a playoff spot, which has become somewhat of a low bar with the expanded playoff format. But......when I look at our SP and questions in the BP and a weak bench, it's not inconceivable. I guess $300mm just doesn't go as far as it used to. Yeah. I mean, 40 percent of the teams make the playoffs now, so you just need to be slightly above average to get in. Sort of like the NCAA basketball tournament. Although in reality a lower percentage of teams get into that.
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Post by Max on Mar 26, 2024 14:25:34 GMT -5
It's believable that they don't want to pay that much tax, but what's the cost of missing the playoffs for the second straight season? If they are clearly out of the post season race in early August, attendance at the Stadium will dwindle. I read an article that said if the Yankees were to fall out of the playoff picture they would look to trade Soto for a haul. It's really hard to imagine a 300mm roster not competing for a playoff spot, which has become somewhat of a low bar with the expanded playoff format. But......when I look at our SP and questions in the BP and a weak bench, it's not inconceivable. I guess $300mm just doesn't go as far as it used to. Just my 2 cents...The Yankees shouldn't trade Soto unless they have no plans to sign him. I could be wrong but if the Yankees try to sign him after they trade him that will cost the Yankees 2 draft picks and International bonus money. 40 million of that 300 million allowed them to keep their homegrown star player (Judge). Another 36 million allowed them to sign one of the best pitchers in MLB (Cole).
I'd rather the Yankees have signed Harper, but I don't blame them for making the one-sided Stanton trade (32 million). That's 108 million right there. The Yankees also traded for Soto without trading their top 2 prospects (Dominguez, Jones). Soto adds another 31 million to that payroll. The Yankees needed another starter and Rodon was a free agent, that's another 27 million. That adds up to 5 players making 166 million.
No one can say for sure ahead of time how a player might perform playing for the Yankees, and no one can predict injuries. The Yankees payroll is what it is, and it's likely to get higher next season if Cole opts-out, and if the Yankees are planning to re-sign Soto and or Torres. Holmes is also a free agent after this season. Rizzo has a 17 million dollar club option. Verdugo is another free agent, but with Dominguez and Jones knocking on MLB's door I doubt the Yankees will re-sign him. Depending when Dominguez comes off the IR, if any player gets traded during the season it might be Verdugo.
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Post by inger on Mar 26, 2024 15:46:25 GMT -5
I read an article that said if the Yankees were to fall out of the playoff picture they would look to trade Soto for a haul. It's really hard to imagine a 300mm roster not competing for a playoff spot, which has become somewhat of a low bar with the expanded playoff format. But......when I look at our SP and questions in the BP and a weak bench, it's not inconceivable. I guess $300mm just doesn't go as far as it used to. Yeah. I mean, 40 percent of the teams make the playoffs now, so you just need to be slightly above average to get in. Sort of like the NCAA basketball tournament. Although in reality a lower percentage of teams get into that. This team is a true mystery to me heading into 2024. It’s hard to imagine a team with the Judge/Soto combo finishing in the basement, and it’s also hard to imagine a team with so many question marks winning 90+ and sailing into the playoffs. I really don’t know what to expect out of this group this year. If Cortes and Rodon pitch like they did in 2022, they can negate the effects of losing Cole for a couple of months. But if they don’t. If Rizzo and DJ rebound… but if they don’t…health, improvement of Volpe at the plate, or not. So many mysteries to unlock…
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Post by qwik3457bb on Mar 26, 2024 19:02:37 GMT -5
The Guardians chose to make Florial their backup centerfielder despite having a dreadful spring training in which he batted .163 in 49 AB with 22 K and 5 BB. Theyre starting a converted infielder named Tyler Freeman with a career OPS of .641 in 254 PA over two seasons. Freeman had a decent spring training batting record.
Either way, I don't think the Guardians have found their starting centerfielder for this season yet. On the other hand, it looks like it'll be a while before Cody Morris does some pitching for the Yanks. Must admit I have not been following him but that line is not good at all. The high swing and miss rate continues to be an issue. When he was with us, I had reached the conclusion if he were to spend any time in the bigs it would be as a reserve defensive OFer who could play all three OF spots and run a little. I suppose if he can hang in the majors long enough, he might have a semi-breakthrough season where everything just goes right, like Mike Tauchman did. Maybe 300-350 PA with 15 HR/15 SB if he can get his K rate under 30% for a long while. With good defense, that's a valuable season.
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Post by qwik3457bb on Mar 26, 2024 19:05:41 GMT -5
The Guardians chose to make Florial their backup centerfielder despite having a dreadful spring training in which he batted .163 in 49 AB with 22 K and 5 BB. Theyre starting a converted infielder named Tyler Freeman with a career OPS of .641 in 254 PA over two seasons. Freeman had a decent spring training batting record.
Either way, I don't think the Guardians have found their starting centerfielder for this season yet. On the other hand, it looks like it'll be a while before Cody Morris does some pitching for the Yanks.
In your opinion...Is there any chance the Yankees look to make Morris a starting pitcher? People whose ability to evaluate a pitcher's stuff think Morris has good stuff, but very poor command. In such circumstances, it's a lot easier to master command on two plus pitches for 15-30 pitches at a time, than it is to master command on three or more pitches for 75-90 pitches at a time. To gain enough command to be a starter, he might have to take the edge off his stuff so much that he's not good enough to be a #5 starter.
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Post by rizzuto on Mar 26, 2024 19:13:39 GMT -5
Yeah. I mean, 40 percent of the teams make the playoffs now, so you just need to be slightly above average to get in. Sort of like the NCAA basketball tournament. Although in reality a lower percentage of teams get into that. This team is a true mystery to me heading into 2024. It’s hard to imagine a team with the Judge/Soto combo finishing in the basement, and it’s also hard to imagine a team with so many question marks winning 90+ and sailing into the playoffs. I really don’t know what to expect out of this group this year. If Cortes and Rodon pitch like they did in 2022, they can negate the effects of losing Cole for a couple of months. But if they don’t. If Rizzo and DJ rebound… but if they don’t…health, improvement of Volpe at the plate, or not. So many mysteries to unlock… Last season, we didn't have Aaron Judge for a full year or Rizzo or Stanton or Bader or Nestor or Rodon or Trevino or Loaisaga or German or Middleton, and we lost Cordero for good after his incident. Severino could not have been any worse. Brito was a rookie, Vasquez was a rookie, Volpe was a rookie, Jake Bauers played in 84 games, and Clarke Schmidt worked his first full season as a starting pitcher. Still, they won 82 games and missed by a tie breaker from making the playoffs. Gerrit Cole received his first Cy Young Award and the team was 23-10 in games that he pitched; 15-19 when Clarke Schmidt pitched; 8-11 when Luis Severino pitched; 3-11 when Carlos Rodon pitched; 9-11 when Domingo German pitched; 13-12 when Jhony Brito pitched. Still, it was our overall offense that laid an egg last season, scoring only 328 runs at home (4 runs per game), and as good as some of our bullpen stats looked, we blew 27 leads. A lot went wrong last year, yet Schmidt and Rodon are already better than they ever were last season. Stroman is going to keep the ball in the park, allowing only 9 home runs last season playing half of his games at Wrigley Field. Gil has better stuff that Brito, and Warren has better control than Vasquez. I am cautiously optimistic, and I look for us to score in excess of a run per game more than last season. We'll be in the mix, and if we are healthy come playoff time - we can do some damage. Did we quit when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Who's with me!
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Post by kaybli on Mar 26, 2024 19:17:21 GMT -5
This team is a true mystery to me heading into 2024. It’s hard to imagine a team with the Judge/Soto combo finishing in the basement, and it’s also hard to imagine a team with so many question marks winning 90+ and sailing into the playoffs. I really don’t know what to expect out of this group this year. If Cortes and Rodon pitch like they did in 2022, they can negate the effects of losing Cole for a couple of months. But if they don’t. If Rizzo and DJ rebound… but if they don’t…health, improvement of Volpe at the plate, or not. So many mysteries to unlock… Last season, we didn't have Aaron Judge for a full year or Rizzo or Stanton or Bader or Nestor or Rodon or Trevino or Loaisaga or German or Middleton, and we lost Cordero for good after his incident. Severino could not have been any worse. Brito was a rookie, Vasquez was a rookie, Volpe was a rookie, Jake Bauers played in 84 games, and Clarke Schmidt worked his first full season as a starting pitcher. Still, they won 82 games and missed by a tie breaker from making the playoffs. Gerrit Cole received his first Cy Young Award and the team was 23-10 in games that he pitched; 15-19 when Clarke Schmidt pitched; 8-11 when Luis Severino pitched; 3-11 when Carlos Rodon pitched; 9-11 when Domingo German pitched; 13-12 when Jhony Brito pitched. Still, it was our overall offense that laid an egg last season, scoring only 328 runs at home (4 runs per game), and as good as some of our bullpen stats looked, we blew 27 leads. A lot went wrong last year, yet Schmidt and Rodon are already better than they ever were last season. Stroman is going to keep the ball in the park, allowing only 9 home runs last season playing half of his games at Wrigley Field. Gil has better stuff that Brito, and Warren has better control than Vasquez. I am cautiously optimistic, and I look for us to score in excess of a run per game more than last season. We'll be in the mix, and if we are healthy come playoff time - we can do some damage. Did we quit when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Who's with me!
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Post by Max on Mar 27, 2024 10:56:48 GMT -5
In your opinion...Is there any chance the Yankees look to make Morris a starting pitcher? People whose ability to evaluate a pitcher's stuff think Morris has good stuff, but very poor command. In such circumstances, it's a lot easier to master command on two plus pitches for 15-30 pitches at a time, than it is to master command on three or more pitches for 75-90 pitches at a time. To gain enough command to be a starter, he might have to take the edge off his stuff so much that he's not good enough to be a #5 starter.Thank you for sharing your opinion.
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Post by qwik3457bb on Mar 27, 2024 13:40:14 GMT -5
People whose ability to evaluate a pitcher's stuff think Morris has good stuff, but very poor command. In such circumstances, it's a lot easier to master command on two plus pitches for 15-30 pitches at a time, than it is to master command on three or more pitches for 75-90 pitches at a time. To gain enough command to be a starter, he might have to take the edge off his stuff so much that he's not good enough to be a #5 starter. Thank you for sharing your opinion. You're right, of course. It is just my opinion (and I'm not taking that as an insult...sometimes I give my opinions and write them as if I'm an expert and I know I'm not), and really, I don't know what Morris will be. I will say this: the Indians, who do a terrific job developing pitching, both starting and relieving, traded Morris for a failed prospect in Florial. That tells me they don't think he'll make it. They're wrong sometimes, but not often.
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Post by Max on Mar 27, 2024 14:13:45 GMT -5
Thank you for sharing your opinion. You're right, of course. It is just my opinion (and I'm not taking that as an insult...sometimes I give my opinions and write them as if I'm an expert and I know I'm not), and really, I don't know what Morris will be. I will say this: the Indians, who do a terrific job developing pitching, both starting and relieving, traded Morris for a failed prospect in Florial. That tells me they don't think he'll make it. They're wrong sometimes, but not often.
I apologize if it even crossed your mind for a second that I was insulting you. Thank you for not taking it as an insult, I didn't mean it as an insult at all. It was a compliment. I asked for your opinion because you're a very knowledgeable poster who's posts I have read for years on the YES message board.
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