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Post by vtfan on Jan 4, 2024 11:51:09 GMT -5
I know some here doubt his value, esp. given his injury history, but I'd take a flyer with him if the "price" was right. Cashman needs to do something. |
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Post by Max on Jan 4, 2024 12:19:58 GMT -5
I rather the Yankees re-sign Torres, put Volpe at 3B, and Peraza at SS. But I realize that's probably not going to happen and I also realize that Torres is probably the Yankees best trade candidate. I could be wrong, but I don't expect DJ, Torres, and Peraza to all be on the Yankees 26 man roster next season. I think out of the 3 of them, Torres is the most likely to get traded. That is, unless for some reason the Yankees are going to keep Torres and let in walk after next season. I disagree that Torres is likely to be traded. I cant imagine a scenario that would work for the Yankees and a trading partner. The only thing the Yankees need is starting pitching ... They are deep in IF/ OF and Catching prospects A: Starting pitchers are a scarcity and no team is going to trade solid starting pitching for a Free Agent to be 2nd Baseman ... it just doesnt make sense B: Teams that are willing to trade pitchers are likely not contending right now so they will be looking for a package of prospects in return ... Not a Free Agent 2nd baseman C: The other scenario would be for a package of minor league pitchers ... and that would probably not help the Yankee this season and they are in Win now mode For those reasons the Yankees are much more likely to trade Peraza and a few others for a starting pitcher As you know from the YES Forum, I rather the Yankees re-sign Torres. But his salary is going to increase. The Luxury Tax is what it is and the Yankees roster with a young infielder knocking on MLB door is what it is. There are also Hal's comments about Peraza that factor in. Maybe there's a chance the Yankees can re-sign Torres if he and or Soto are willing to have deferred payments in their contracts like Ohtani did. |
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Post by ypaterson on Jan 4, 2024 12:44:22 GMT -5
Not sure if that s true or not but either way ... I really doubt the Yankees, who are in all out win now mode, are going to hand a position to a guy that batted .190 last year, to save $20M or about 5% of the Total Payroll I am just speculating...but I thought it interesting that the Yankees let Montas walk for $ 16 M. After all they gave up for him and for as much as they need starters, they got outbid by the Reds. I was not a Montas fan but the Yankees need starters more than anything else. |
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Post by 1955nyyfan on Jan 4, 2024 12:56:30 GMT -5
Not sure if that s true or not but either way ... I really doubt the Yankees, who are in all out win now mode, are going to hand a position to a guy that batted .190 last year, to save $20M or about 5% of the Total Payroll I am just speculating...but I thought it interesting that the Yankees let Montas for $ 16 M. After all they gave up for him and for as much as they need starters, they got outbid by the Reds. I was not a Montas fan but the Yankees need starters more than anything else. Pat, I think Cash was thinking Montas would sign a 1 year prove it deal and he was surprised by the contract he got. In this case, I think he did the right thing by letting him walk. It's my impression that Cash often misreads the market. It seems that we miss out on FAs and he implies the cost went beyond what he was willing to do. This is just my impression and I could be wrong. I am often surprised by the contracts players get on the open market but it is not my job to be better informed. I can never determine if Cash is often "out of touch", being prudent or posturing. |
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Post by anthonyd46 on Jan 4, 2024 14:00:04 GMT -5
Yankees sign Cody Poteet whoever that is
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Post by chiyankee on Jan 4, 2024 14:13:34 GMT -5
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Post by ypaterson on Jan 4, 2024 14:26:01 GMT -5
I am just speculating...but I thought it interesting that the Yankees let Montas for $ 16 M. After all they gave up for him and for as much as they need starters, they got outbid by the Reds. I was not a Montas fan but the Yankees need starters more than anything else. Pat, I think Cash was thinking Montas would sign a 1 year prove it deal and he was surprised by the contract he got. In this case, I think he did the right thing by letting him walk. It's my impression that Cash often misreads the market. It seems that we miss out on FAs and he implies the cost went beyond what he was willing to do. This is just my impression and I could be wrong. I am often surprised by the contracts players get on the open market but it is not my job to be better informed. I can never determine if Cash is often "out of touch", being prudent or posturing. I did not think Montas would get a $ 16 M guarantee and am not upset that he left.... My point is that if the money were not important to Hal guys like Montas and even Trivino would be on the roster. Not too long ago someone in the front office had to think those guys were Yankee quality. One of my pet theories is that guys usually get a premium when they hit the open market. And that is going to be true for Verdugo, Torres and Soto. I am not sure what my GM is thinking. |
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Post by inger on Jan 4, 2024 14:47:20 GMT -5
I know some here doubt his value, esp. given his injury history, but I'd take a flyer with him if the "price" was right. Cashman needs to do something. I doubt the price is going to be what it should be given that along with his upside there is also an obvious downside… Low floor, high ceiling… |
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Post by inger on Jan 4, 2024 14:50:17 GMT -5
I disagree that Torres is likely to be traded. I cant imagine a scenario that would work for the Yankees and a trading partner. The only thing the Yankees need is starting pitching ... They are deep in IF/ OF and Catching prospects A: Starting pitchers are a scarcity and no team is going to trade solid starting pitching for a Free Agent to be 2nd Baseman ... it just doesnt make sense B: Teams that are willing to trade pitchers are likely not contending right now so they will be looking for a package of prospects in return ... Not a Free Agent 2nd baseman C: The other scenario would be for a package of minor league pitchers ... and that would probably not help the Yankee this season and they are in Win now mode For those reasons the Yankees are much more likely to trade Peraza and a few others for a starting pitcher As you know from the YES Forum, I rather the Yankees re-sign Torres. But his salary is going to increase. The Luxury Tax is what it is and the Yankees roster with a young infielder knocking on MLB door is what it is. There are also Hal's comments about Peraza that factor in. Maybe there's a chance the Yankees can re-sign Torres if he and or Soto are willing to have deferred payments in their contracts like Ohtani did. The Ohtani deferred money had a lot to do with the tax law in Japan, from what I understand. All the teams have to realize that that tactic is a bit like using a credit card to stock their roster. The bill comes due later, and that’s going to affect future decisions for the team that utilizes that strategy… |
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Post by inger on Jan 4, 2024 14:54:12 GMT -5
Pat, I think Cash was thinking Montas would sign a 1 year prove it deal and he was surprised by the contract he got. In this case, I think he did the right thing by letting him walk. It's my impression that Cash often misreads the market. It seems that we miss out on FAs and he implies the cost went beyond what he was willing to do. This is just my impression and I could be wrong. I am often surprised by the contracts players get on the open market but it is not my job to be better informed. I can never determine if Cash is often "out of touch", being prudent or posturing. I did not think Montas would get a $ 16 M guarantee and am not upset that he left.... My point is that if the money were not important to Hal guys like Montas and even Trivino would be on the roster. Not too long ago someone in the front office had to think those guys were Yankee quality. One of my pet theories is that guys usually get a premium when they hit the open market. And that is going to be true for Verdugo, Torres and Soto. I am not sure what my GM is thinking. To a point I think it’s good that we don’t know the team strategy. That also means it’s unlikely any other GM has him figured out, too… I believe there to be a prudence to the man. Extend Gleyber? I don’t know yet. It doesn’t have to be addressed today… |
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Post by azbob643 on Jan 4, 2024 14:59:52 GMT -5
To a point I think it’s good that we don’t know the team strategy. That also means it’s unlikely any other GM has him figured out, too… I believe there to be a prudence to the man. Extend Gleyber? I don’t know yet. It doesn’t have to be addressed today… I wouldn't be surprised if they wait until later in the season (AS break?) to make a decision... |
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Post by inger on Jan 4, 2024 15:10:35 GMT -5
To a point I think it’s good that we don’t know the team strategy. That also means it’s unlikely any other GM has him figured out, too… I believe there to be a prudence to the man. Extend Gleyber? I don’t know yet. It doesn’t have to be addressed today… I wouldn't be surprised if they wait until later in the season (AS break?) to make a decision... unless we can find a way to package him in a deal for a starting pitcher. I realize that as a rental he’s either going to bring back a rental pitcher or he’s going be dealt with prospects to get that done now. The trade deadline may make him more of a commodity. One thing for certain is that he’s become quite a polarizing piece of this roster. I know he’s still “young”, but it’s time to grow up… |
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Post by Max on Jan 4, 2024 15:25:04 GMT -5
Yankees sign Cody Poteet whoever that is Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk The Yankees claimed Bubba Thompson too. |
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Post by Max on Jan 4, 2024 15:26:47 GMT -5
Bader signs with the Mets. I wish him well. Too bad he was on the IL so much. Love the way he plays the game.
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Post by azbob643 on Jan 4, 2024 15:29:11 GMT -5
I wouldn't be surprised if they wait until later in the season (AS break?) to make a decision... unless we can find a way to package him in a deal for a starting pitcher. I realize that as a rental he’s either going to bring back a rental pitcher or he’s going be dealt with prospects to get that done now. The trade deadline may make him more of a commodity. One thing for certain is that he’s become quite a polarizing piece of this roster. I know he’s still “young”, but it’s time to grow up… I'm well aware that there's a solid "anti-Gleyber" faction, and it's pointless to try to change anyone's mind at this point. But as I think you know, I'm a big Gleyber fan. Yeah...he's had more than his share of brain farts, but he's proven himself to be solid offensively...25-30 HR/.800 OPS. He's a player to build on; it'd be very shortsighted to trade him. As I've said, I'd like to see him eventually moved to 3B. He's got the pop you want from that position. But it'd be unfair to ask him to move until after he's extended...so I'm looking for him at 3B in '25. |
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