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Post by fwclipper51 on Jan 30, 2024 15:18:21 GMT -5
Greg Allen, Part III. Cashman just can't get enough of this guy.
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Post by fwclipper51 on Jan 30, 2024 15:35:09 GMT -5
YANKEES
Yankees have ‘moved on’ from Blake Snell: Here’s an even better option | Klapisch
Updated: Jan. 30, 2024, 9:20 a.m.|Published: Jan. 30, 2024, 7:00 a.m.
By Bob Klapisch | For NJ Advance Media
Milwaukee Brewers Corbin Burnes
Anyone who thinks Blake Snell and the Yankees were a perfect match this winter would’ve enjoyed the eye candy at the Baseball Writers annual banquet in Manhattan Saturday night.
Snell was seated shoulder-to-shoulder on the dais next to Gerrit Cole. The crowd of almost 900 had visions of the Cy Young Award winners trading in their tuxedos for Pinstripes in Tampa in 2 weeks.
The curtain would’ve gone up on Aces 1 and 1-A. It could’ve been the history-making combo the Yankees have been chasing for a decade.
But you know the old proverb: timing is everything.
Had the writers’ dinner been scheduled around New Year’s instead of February’s doorstep, it’s possible Cole could’ve acted as the intermediary between Snell and the Yankees.
In the 3-hour span of dinner, dessert, awards and acceptance speeches, Cole could’ve been in Snell’s ear, pitching him on the beauty of rebuilding the Yankees. All that’s missing, Cole could’ve assured Snell, is you.
Nice fantasy except talks had already evaporated by this past weekend. The Yankees offered Snell $25 million per for six years, he wanted $30 million per for 9. There was no middle ground, with no hope of a reconciliation.
The Yankees’ offer is believed to be off the table. One major source said on Monday, “(Hal) Steinbrenner has moved on (from Snell).”
Cole was probably aware of the breakdown. He and Snell are, after all, represented by the same agent, Scott Boras. Still, the Bombers’ ace had fun revving up the audience, telling them, “I found it particularly interesting that I was sitting next to Blake all night.”
As the crowd roared in approval, Cole smiled and said, “Sorry, that was for all my Yankees fans.”
There was a similar tease in 2018, when Giancarlo Stanton and Aaron Judge, who’d become teammates only weeks before, were paired at the dais. The 2 circus strongmen were supposed to be the next-gen Mantle-Maris duo, taking the Yankees straight to the World Series.
That hasn’t happened, of course. Six years later, the Yankees are still looking to win a pennant. And, let’s be honest about the ‘24 roster: the Bombers are still looking for that final piece for the rotation.
Marcus Stroman is potentially a big help for Cole, but the $37 million Stroman is pulling down for the next 2 seasons shut the door on Snell. But it could forge a path to Plan B- Brewers’ ace Corbin Burnes.
It’s not impossible if you consider the Yankees had at least $25 million per year earmarked for Snell. That figure would’ve likely increased to $28 million had Snell and Boras comprised.
So Stroman’s $18.5 million per means there’s $10 million sitting in reserve in Steinbrenner’s coffers. What if the Bombers approach the Brewers by mid-summer and gauge the interest in moving Burnes before the trade deadline?
Burnes is eligible for free agency after this season. He’s fully intending to test the market. The Brewers could, if they’re struggling in the NL Central, theoretically cut their losses before Burnes moves on in November.
There’s more: Burnes will make $15.6 million this year. The Yankees would be one of several teams interested in trading with the Brewers. But Burnes’ pro-rated salary wouldn’t be an obstacle for Steinbrenner.
Remember, the Yankees are going into the season with a surplus from the Stroman deal. The young Boss could use those funds for a late push to the playoffs.
And here’s where the fantasy takes another twist. If Juan Soto chooses to leave the Bronx via free agency — there’s so far no indication he wants to be a long-term Yankee — then a huge windfall drops in Steinbrenner’s lap.
Where and how does he spend it?
On Burnes of course. At 29, he’s 2 years younger than Snell and arguably more consistent. The right-hander is a 3-time All-Star, the NL’s Cy Young Award winner in 2021 and a year removed from leading the majors with 243 strikeouts in 2022.
Last year, Burnes finished with a 3.39 ERA, 1.07 WHIP and 200 strikeouts. Those credentials stand on their own. No scaffolding is required.
This is no slight against Snell, who’s won the Cy Young twice (2018 and 2023). His 2.25 ERA, 14 wins and 234 strikeouts with the Padres in 2023 are also self-explanatory: Snell had a better year than Burnes.
But there’s an asterisk that hovers over Snell’s career like an anvil: in the seasons between the Cy Youngs, he was often injured and twice posted ERAs higher than 4.20.
Now you know why the Yankees wouldn’t touch Snell’s demand for a 9-year, $270 million pact. Not after they were fleeced by Carlos Rodon in Year One of what could be a 6-year, $162 million disaster.
Rodon was so awful in ‘23 the Yankees are wondering just who their No. 2 starter will be.
Stroman? He’s got the arm. The jury’s out on his mood swings.
Nestor Cortes? Only if he’s healthy. Even then, no.
Rodon? It’ll take a turnaround of Biblical proportions.
Burnes in late ‘24? It’s an interesting thought.
How about Burnes in 2025 and beyond?
Now you’re cooking. It depends on how well the rest of the Yankees perform this summer. Let’s see if Soto wants to stick around.
If not, there’s a heck of Plan B waiting to be hatched.
All it’ll take is luck, money and that crazy little thing called timing.
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Post by kaybli on Jan 30, 2024 15:36:38 GMT -5
Greg Allen, Part III. Cashman just can't get enough of this guy.  |
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Post by inger on Jan 30, 2024 17:40:36 GMT -5
Greg Allen, Part III. Cashman just can't get enough of this guy. Rizzuto’s boy, too… |
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Post by kaybli on Jan 31, 2024 13:22:38 GMT -5
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Post by qimqam on Jan 31, 2024 13:33:17 GMT -5
From MLB Rumors
Yankees, Greg Allen Agree To Minor League Deal
By Steve Adams | January 30, 2024 at 12:11pm CDT
Fleet-footed outfielder Greg Allen is returning to the Yankees organization on a minor league deal, reports Robert Murray of FanSided. The CAA client will be in camp as a non-roster invitee this spring. Joel Sherman of the New York Post adds that Allen would earn at a $1.1MM rate if selected to the big league roster. There’s another $400K available via incentives, per Sherman, which takes the form of a $50K bonus for every 50th plate appearance beginning at 150 and ranging through 500. Allen hasn’t reached 150 MLB plate appearances since 2019 and has never topped 291 plate appearances in a season.
It’s the third stint with the Yankees for the 30-year-old Allen, who was traded from San Diego to New York back in 2021. Allen appeared in 15 games that season and has since bounced from the Pirates, to the Red Sox, back to the Yankees, to the Brewers and now back to the Bronx.
Allen spent the bulk of the 2023 season in the Yankees organization but was designated for assignment in August and elected free agency after going unclaimed on waivers. He took just 28 plate appearances with the Yanks — his only big league action last season — and slashed .217/.333/.478 with a homer and three steals in that tiny sample. The rest of his season was spent in Triple-A, where he batted a combined .252/.388/.371 between the Yankees, Brewers and Red Sox organizations.
In parts of seven of MLB seasons, Allen is a .231/.300/.340 hitter with 11 homers, 31 doubles, eight triples, a 5.7% walk rate and a 23.4% strikeout rate in 828 plate appearances. He’s a switch-hitter with minimal pop but plus speed and strong defensive skills across all three outfield positions. Allen won’t have an easy path to a big league roster spot on a team whose outfield mix consists of Juan Soto, Aaron Judge, Alex Verdugo, Trent Grisham and Giancarlo Stanton (though he’ll primarily DH). That said, he’s a fine depth piece to stash in Triple-A Scranton/Wilkes-Barre to begin the season, which seems to be the likeliest role for him unless injuries create some openings on the big league roster during spring training.
You know this season is toast if we see him in the majors again I guess this means the Yankees have no intentions of signing Soto !!! |
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Post by themartian on Jan 31, 2024 13:39:08 GMT -5
Too bad, although 4 years is kind of a lot for any reliever. He did have 5.05 FIP last year and his ERA did seem kind of lucky to me with the amount of walks and HRs he allowed. But he was still a solid guy in his time in NY, and the whistling bit I thought was great. It should give them more incentive now to sign a pen arm themselves. They could probably get Diekman on a one year deal if they want a lefty. Between Gonzalez/Gage/Diekman I'd have to believe Blake would have success with at least one. |
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Post by Oburg Bob on Jan 31, 2024 13:53:46 GMT -5
I've always liked Greg Allen. He plays a decent outfield, has pretty good speed, can put the bat on the ball some and knows how to play the game. He was a solid little backup who plays hard and won't embarrass himself. He will be a potential short term fill-in who will be stashed in AAA. He's an outfielder, not a converted infielder!
Oburg Bob
P.S. - My apologies to Oswaldo Caberra, who handled himself pretty well out there. I'm not giving up on his bat quite yet.
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Post by Max on Jan 31, 2024 14:17:58 GMT -5
You know this season is toast if we see him in the majors again I guess this means the Yankees have no intentions of signing Soto !!!
They probably have no intentions of re-signing Verdugo once JD shows that he's ready to play MLB. |
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Post by Max on Jan 31, 2024 14:19:47 GMT -5
Too bad, although 4 years is kind of a lot for any reliever.
Maybe the Padres believe in "late prime." 
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Post by posadafan24 on Jan 31, 2024 14:22:55 GMT -5
Too bad, although 4 years is kind of a lot for any reliever. He did have 5.05 FIP last year and his ERA did seem kind of lucky to me with the amount of walks and HRs he allowed. But he was still a solid guy in his time in NY, and the whistling bit I thought was great. It should give them more incentive now to sign a pen arm themselves. They could probably get Diekman on a one year deal if they want a lefty. Between Gonzalez/Gage/Diekman I'd have to believe Blake would have success with at least one. Peralta is gone . Yeah i dont have a lot of confidence in the pitching this year . Can only hope the offense hits like it did in 18 and /or 19 |
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Post by chiyankee on Jan 31, 2024 14:26:05 GMT -5
I like Wandy but to me, he's a year to year guy. No way I'm giving him four years. |
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Post by donniebaseball23 on Jan 31, 2024 14:37:39 GMT -5
YANKEES
Yankees have ‘moved on’ from Blake Snell: Here’s an even better option | Klapisch
Updated: Jan. 30, 2024, 9:20 a.m.|Published: Jan. 30, 2024, 7:00 a.m.
By Bob Klapisch | For NJ Advance Media
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Milwaukee Brewers Corbin Burnes
Anyone who thinks Blake Snell and the Yankees were a perfect match this winter would’ve enjoyed the eye candy at the Baseball Writers annual banquet in Manhattan Saturday night.
Snell was seated shoulder-to-shoulder on the dais next to Gerrit Cole. The crowd of almost 900 had visions of the Cy Young Award winners trading in their tuxedos for Pinstripes in Tampa in 2 weeks.
The curtain would’ve gone up on Aces 1 and 1-A. It could’ve been the history-making combo the Yankees have been chasing for a decade.
But you know the old proverb: timing is everything.
Had the writers’ dinner been scheduled around New Year’s instead of February’s doorstep, it’s possible Cole could’ve acted as the intermediary between Snell and the Yankees.
In the 3-hour span of dinner, dessert, awards and acceptance speeches, Cole could’ve been in Snell’s ear, pitching him on the beauty of rebuilding the Yankees. All that’s missing, Cole could’ve assured Snell, is you.
Nice fantasy except talks had already evaporated by this past weekend. The Yankees offered Snell $25 million per for six years, he wanted $30 million per for 9. There was no middle ground, with no hope of a reconciliation.
The Yankees’ offer is believed to be off the table. One major source said on Monday, “(Hal) Steinbrenner has moved on (from Snell).”
Cole was probably aware of the breakdown. He and Snell are, after all, represented by the same agent, Scott Boras. Still, the Bombers’ ace had fun revving up the audience, telling them, “I found it particularly interesting that I was sitting next to Blake all night.”
As the crowd roared in approval, Cole smiled and said, “Sorry, that was for all my Yankees fans.”
There was a similar tease in 2018, when Giancarlo Stanton and Aaron Judge, who’d become teammates only weeks before, were paired at the dais. The 2 circus strongmen were supposed to be the next-gen Mantle-Maris duo, taking the Yankees straight to the World Series.
That hasn’t happened, of course. Six years later, the Yankees are still looking to win a pennant. And, let’s be honest about the ‘24 roster: the Bombers are still looking for that final piece for the rotation.
Marcus Stroman is potentially a big help for Cole, but the $37 million Stroman is pulling down for the next 2 seasons shut the door on Snell. But it could forge a path to Plan B- Brewers’ ace Corbin Burnes.
It’s not impossible if you consider the Yankees had at least $25 million per year earmarked for Snell. That figure would’ve likely increased to $28 million had Snell and Boras comprised.
So Stroman’s $18.5 million per means there’s $10 million sitting in reserve in Steinbrenner’s coffers. What if the Bombers approach the Brewers by mid-summer and gauge the interest in moving Burnes before the trade deadline?
Burnes is eligible for free agency after this season. He’s fully intending to test the market. The Brewers could, if they’re struggling in the NL Central, theoretically cut their losses before Burnes moves on in November.
There’s more: Burnes will make $15.6 million this year. The Yankees would be one of several teams interested in trading with the Brewers. But Burnes’ pro-rated salary wouldn’t be an obstacle for Steinbrenner.
Remember, the Yankees are going into the season with a surplus from the Stroman deal. The young Boss could use those funds for a late push to the playoffs.
And here’s where the fantasy takes another twist. If Juan Soto chooses to leave the Bronx via free agency — there’s so far no indication he wants to be a long-term Yankee — then a huge windfall drops in Steinbrenner’s lap.
Where and how does he spend it?
On Burnes of course. At 29, he’s 2 years younger than Snell and arguably more consistent. The right-hander is a 3-time All-Star, the NL’s Cy Young Award winner in 2021 and a year removed from leading the majors with 243 strikeouts in 2022.
Last year, Burnes finished with a 3.39 ERA, 1.07 WHIP and 200 strikeouts. Those credentials stand on their own. No scaffolding is required.
This is no slight against Snell, who’s won the Cy Young twice (2018 and 2023). His 2.25 ERA, 14 wins and 234 strikeouts with the Padres in 2023 are also self-explanatory: Snell had a better year than Burnes.
But there’s an asterisk that hovers over Snell’s career like an anvil: in the seasons between the Cy Youngs, he was often injured and twice posted ERAs higher than 4.20.
Now you know why the Yankees wouldn’t touch Snell’s demand for a 9-year, $270 million pact. Not after they were fleeced by Carlos Rodon in Year One of what could be a 6-year, $162 million disaster.
Rodon was so awful in ‘23 the Yankees are wondering just who their No. 2 starter will be.
Stroman? He’s got the arm. The jury’s out on his mood swings.
Nestor Cortes? Only if he’s healthy. Even then, no.
Rodon? It’ll take a turnaround of Biblical proportions.
Burnes in late ‘24? It’s an interesting thought.
How about Burnes in 2025 and beyond?
Now you’re cooking. It depends on how well the rest of the Yankees perform this summer. Let’s see if Soto wants to stick around.
If not, there’s a heck of Plan B waiting to be hatched.
All it’ll take is luck, money and that crazy little thing called timing.
I much prefer Burnes to Snell. Question is, what would it take to pry him from the Brewers? |
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Post by Max on Jan 31, 2024 14:51:08 GMT -5
I like Wandy but to me, he's a year to year guy. No way I'm giving him four years.
Let's see how he pitches for the Yankees, but in my opinion, Gonzalez is a better pitcher than Peralta.
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Post by Max on Jan 31, 2024 14:57:31 GMT -5
Just my 2 cents...Burnes is the way better fit and a better pitcher than Snell is. Snell would only cost the Yankees money. My choice would still be for the Yankees to acquire Burnes. But I'm not a fan of the Yankees trading for players in their walk year. Burnes will probably cost the Yankees at least 2 of these 3 pitchers (Hampton, Warren, Beeter), plus.
Also, just my 2 cents... If the Yankees are going to bring in another big talented player on the level of Burnes, they are eventually going to have to shed payroll if they want to stay below the top L-Tax threshold. Remember, there's a dollar for dollar L-Tax penalty for every dollar they go over the last L-Tax threshold. I'm not sure but I think they can also lose international bonus money and picks.
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