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Post by ypaterson on Feb 2, 2024 14:32:11 GMT -5
I think Cole Rodon Stroman is a good 3 but there's def what ifs there on if they will perform not get injuried etc but if all 3 of those are on that is a good top 3. Do agree another stable arm is important. My point is the problem with this offense was it was half aaaa players those types are gone now. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I have great confidence in Cole and expect he will pitch well enough to win 15 - 20. Based on Rodon's history, who knows if he will give them 10 - 15 starts. Stroman is a .500 pitcher, we can hope he might do better, but no reason to expect much more than 10 - 10 from him. I gave up betting many years ago but if I were to place a wager I'd say Stroman pitches more games and innings than Rodon. |
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Post by posadafan24 on Feb 2, 2024 14:33:53 GMT -5
I have great confidence in Cole and expect he will pitch well enough to win 15 - 20. Based on Rodon's history, who knows if he will give them 10 - 15 starts. Stroman is a .500 pitcher, we can hope he might do better, but no reason to expect much more than 10 - 10 from him. I gave up betting many years ago but if I were to place a wager I'd say Stroman pitches more games and innings than Rodon. I actually believe that |
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Post by bomberhojoe on Feb 2, 2024 14:45:27 GMT -5
I gave up betting many years ago but if I were to place a wager I'd say Stroman pitches more games and innings than Rodon. I actually believe that I think there is a very good chance Stroman gives the Yankees 30 starts, barring an unforeseen injury. The sad part with Rodon is a season without injury is unforeseen, and some missed time is likely. |
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Post by anthonyd46 on Feb 2, 2024 14:45:52 GMT -5
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They need another solid pitcher if that happens
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Post by bruner4329 on Feb 2, 2024 15:04:09 GMT -5
Its the lack of health from that rotation that concerns me not so much the talent . 2 injuries away from having a minor leaguer in the rotation after stroman That would apply to most if not all MLB teams. Except for the fact we have 2/5 of our rotation with a history of getting injured which increases the chances. When was the last time Nestor went through a season without being out for a prolonged period. I believe last couple of years we have been down at least one starter before season even began and last year we were missing 2 guys out of spring training.
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Post by fwclipper51 on Feb 2, 2024 15:22:59 GMT -5
THE YANKEES
Wandy Peralta? Keynan Middleton? Gone. What arms are left for Yankees bullpen?
Updated: Feb. 02, 2024, 1:00 p.m. Published: Feb. 02, 2024, 10:00 A.M.
By Max Goodman | NJ Advance Media for NJ.com
The reliever market continues to shrink for the Yankees as both Wandy Peralta and Keynan Middleton both came off the board in free agency this week.
Two weeks from now, when pitchers and catchers report to Yankees camp in Tampa, one boisterous presence will be missing in the home clubhouse at Steinbrenner Field.
Wandy Peralta signed with the Padres earlier this week. He’ll link up with Michael King and the rest of the Yankees’ Juan Soto trade package in San Diego, agreeing to a unique 4-year contract worth $16.5 million (a deal with 3 separate opt-outs).
It’s a bittersweet departure for the Yankees because of Peralta’s dominance out of the back of the club’s bullpen and his irreplaceable impact behind the scenes.
Ask anybody on the Yankees. Players and coaches. They’ll smile mischievously and tell stories of Peralta’s antics — his fear of flying, his secret language, how he always kept the room loose. They’ll also talk about Peralta’s work ethic, his strict routine and his gutsiness coming out of the bullpen in the biggest moments. This guy pitched in every game of the American League Division Series back in 2022, posting a 2.82 ERA across 153 innings in his 3-year tenure in pinstripes.
Trading Mike Tauchman to the Giants for Peralta in April of 2021 has aged pretty darn well for Brian Cashman, don’t you think?
Still, letting Peralta walk in free agency feels like the right call, especially if the Yankees are being mindful about how much more they’re willing to spend leading up to spring training. Their payroll is already expected to exceed $300 million, leading to all kinds of luxury tax penalties.
Peralta pitched well in 2023, but his numbers featured some concerning metrics, like a spike in walk rate, a 5.05 FIP and a negative WAR (-0.5, according to FanGraphs). You’d rather move on from someone showing signs of regression early rather than investing and regretting it down the road.
The Yankees’ ability to discover valuable arms in bargain bins will make this an easier pill to swallow as well. In recent years, the Yankees have been a hidden gem factory in their bullpen, bringing the best out of prospects and helping veterans revitalize their careers.
So here’s how I would finalize the bullpen now that Peralta’s off the board.
First, sign either Phil Maton or Ryan Brasier to a 1-year deal. Those right-handers shouldn’t cost too much, cheaper alternatives to the other high-leverage arms that have signed recently, like Hector Neris and Robert Stephenson.
Keynan Middleton would’ve made a lot of sense here, but he’s no longer available as well. Late Thursday night, the Cardinals swooped in and signed the right-hander. Middleton was acquired by the Yankees at last summer’s trade deadline. There was mutual interest in a reunion and his metrics are attractive. He’ll be a solid pickup for St. Louis.
Oh, and not to bury the lede, but Ace Corbin Burnes was traded to the Orioles on Thursday night as well. That stings for the Yankees to say the least.
Maton is an ex-Astro that doesn’t throw hard, but he can spin it with his secondary pitches. The 30-year-old has been one of the best in the biz at avoiding hard contact in recent years, he’s durable and he’s battle-tested, posting a spectacular 0.83 ERA in his postseason career (two earned runs allowed in 21 2/3 innings).
The Yankees will need to determine if the dramatic improvements that Brasier made with the Dodgers last summer are a fluke or sustainable. The righty had an ERA over 7.00 with the Red Sox to begin the year and then he had posted a 0.70 ERA over his final 38 2/3 innings with Los Angeles. If his new cutter is the real deal, Pitching Coach Matt Blake can turn it into even more of a weapon. Signing the 36-year-old would be a risk if you ask me, but options are running thin.
From there, you’ve got a full bullpen. Barring injury, Closer Clay Holmes, Jonathan Loáisiga, Tommy Kahnle, Ian Hamilton, Scott Effross, Victor González and Luke Weaver figure to make the Opening Day roster.
Others in contention for a roster spot and those that will contribute at different points in 2024, Ron Marinaccio, top prospects Will Warren and Clayton Beeter, lefty Matt Gage (claimed off waivers from Houston), Cody Morris (acquired from Cleveland for Estevan Florial), Cody Poteet (signed in free agency this winter) and Nick Ramirez.
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Post by Max on Feb 2, 2024 15:48:09 GMT -5
Granted, it might not be the best idea. But pitching is at a premium, which make me think the Yankees Padres would keep him in the starting rotation. My point is what the yankees would have done with king if they still had him not the padres
I know, my reply applied to both teams.
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Post by chiyankee on Feb 2, 2024 23:03:54 GMT -5
This will be Carlos's 5th team since the start of the 2022 season.
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Post by posadafan24 on Feb 2, 2024 23:09:35 GMT -5
My point is what the yankees would have done with king if they still had him not the padres
I know, my reply applied to both teams.
But the padres werent even talked about , heck the convo was about the arms the yankees lost from the bullpen . Bringing up what the padres will do with king had nothing to do with that . |
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Post by posadafan24 on Feb 2, 2024 23:11:02 GMT -5
That would apply to most if not all MLB teams. Except for the fact we have 2/5 of our rotation with a history of getting injured which increases the chances. When was the last time Nestor went through a season without being out for a prolonged period. I believe last couple of years we have been down at least one starter before season even began and last year we were missing 2 guys out of spring training.
Its actually 3/5 of the rotation if you include schmidt’s injury history . |
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Post by chiyankee on Feb 2, 2024 23:17:21 GMT -5
What did Stripling do to deserve this?
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Post by kaybli on Feb 2, 2024 23:20:48 GMT -5
What did Stripling do to deserve this? lol, before the tweet loaded I pictured a myriad of bad fates for Stripling but none worse than being traded to Oakland. |
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Post by inger on Feb 3, 2024 1:13:46 GMT -5
What did Stripling do to deserve this? lol, before the tweet loaded I pictured a myriad of bad fates for Stripling but none worse than being traded to Oakland. Yet, he was 0-5, 5.36 for the Giants last year, and he’s 34 next season. What does Oakland want with him? He seems like more a Cashman rebuild pickup to me. Maybe they’ll flip him to the Yanks…😂 |
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Post by posadafan24 on Feb 3, 2024 1:40:27 GMT -5
lol, before the tweet loaded I pictured a myriad of bad fates for Stripling but none worse than being traded to Oakland. Yet, he was 0-5, 5.36 for the Giants last year, and he’s 34 next season. What does Oakland want with him? He seems like more a Cashman rebuild pickup to me. Maybe they’ll flip him to the Yanks…😂 He is making 12.5 mill this year . Way out of the yankees price range |
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Post by inger on Feb 3, 2024 7:48:26 GMT -5
Yet, he was 0-5, 5.36 for the Giants last year, and he’s 34 next season. What does Oakland want with him? He seems like more a Cashman rebuild pickup to me. Maybe they’ll flip him to the Yanks…😂 He is making 12.5 mill this year . Way out of the yankees price range Yikes!… |
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