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Post by fwclipper51 on Feb 3, 2024 8:01:41 GMT -5
THE YANKEES:
Yankees GM Brian Cashman needs to wake up and save team after rival’s trade, host says
Updated: Feb. 02, 2024, 2:45 p.m.|Published: Feb. 02, 2024, 1:45 p.m.
By Manuel Gómez | NJ Advance Media for NJ.co
For some, the Orioles acquiring ace Corbin Burnes is a poor reflection of the Yankees’ offseason.
Sure, general manager Brian Cashman landed Juan Soto and Trent Grisham from the Padres, Alex Verdugo from the Red Sox, and signed free-agent pitcher Marcus Stroman, whom he previously had a beef with, for a bargain. It doesn’t take away from the fact that all the Orioles had to give up was DL Hall, Baseball America’s No. 93 prospect in 2024, and Joey Ortiz.
On Friday, WFAN’s Brandon Tierney urged Cashman to wake up as Baltimore, the 2023 AL East winners, added Burnes, a Cy Young Award winner, to their pitching staff.
“Cashman is evidently still in hibernation in the cave with the rest of the bears,” Tierney said, via Audacy. “It’s OK to come out of your slumber while a team in your division just got somebody that you can really use.
“I was pissed… I’m not saying they gave up scrubs, but, man, Cashman missed this one. … Are you telling me there wasn’t some deal the Yankees couldn’t make to top this deal?”
On Friday, Baseball America wrote that criticism of the Yankees minor league talent is a “tad overblown.”
Perhaps Tierney felt that the Yankees could match what the Orioles offered. New York has six prospects in Baseball America’s Top 100, including outfielders Jasson Dominguez (16), Spencer Jones (46) and Everson Pereira (67), shortstop Roderick Arias (68), catcher Austin Wells (71) and right-hander Chase Hampton (72). Could the Yankees have parted with one or more of them like Baltimore did with Hall?
After parting with4 pitchers — Drew Thorpe, Jhony Brito, Michael King and Randy Vásquez — and Kyle Higashioka in the Soto trade, another 2 pitchers — Richard Fitts, Nicholas Judice and Greg Weissert — for Verdugo, and losing Wandy Peralta and Keynan Middleton in free agency, the Yankees need as to refill their pitching depth.
That’s no excuse for Tierney, who fears the Orioles, under new ownership, will be a force in the division for the foreseeable future.
“I still think (the Yankees) will be very, very good. But understand what’s happened in 2 days here,” Tierney said. “The Orioles got sold from a guy who never spent a penny… they now have ownership that is possessed to win. Then they make this monstrous trade.”
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Post by posadafan24 on Feb 3, 2024 9:23:54 GMT -5
There is no “ saving” this team as long as cashman is there .
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Post by vtfan on Feb 3, 2024 10:08:12 GMT -5
If he can, Effros, I mean. I don't think we've improved all that much -- so have the Orioles now, and so have the Jays, and I feel Theo's determination to resuscitate the Red Sox, if not soon then soon enough. No, I think Cashman's been doing his usual thing: either being unconvincing with player agents or sleeping at the post (hence no solid reliever in what has become a "reliever's" era); or, if you want to blame Hal's purse strings instead, then Cashman's unwillingness to stand firm and argue for the best options, which, if he didn't get it, he should've resigned and showed whatever dignity he has left as a New York Yankee GM.
Moreover,if we end up trailing both the Orioles and Jays this coming year, what incentive will Soto have for re-signing with an eminently okay-but-no-cigar team, and of course that's assuming Hal Cashman will offer huge bucks and years? Doubt it, and probably why wisdom dictated the better OF free-agent choice this off-season might've been Bellinger after all.
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Post by chiyankee on Feb 3, 2024 10:25:18 GMT -5
The Rays add a reliever that's been linked to the Yanks.
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Post by Max on Feb 3, 2024 11:08:03 GMT -5
I know, my reply applied to both teams.
But the padres werent even talked about , heck the convo was about the arms the yankees lost from the bullpen . Bringing up what the padres will do with king had nothing to do with that .
Hello? King is with the Padres now. As I said, the post applied to both teams. Maybe this will clear things up. Since pitching is at a premium, and as another poster already said to you that King wanted to start and the Yankees were stretching him out.
So, had King stayed with the Yankees the evidence suggests they would have started him. For those same reasons I think the Padres will start him too.
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Post by Max on Feb 3, 2024 11:17:29 GMT -5
Yet, he was 0-5, 5.36 for the Giants last year, and he’s 34 next season. What does Oakland want with him? He seems like more a Cashman rebuild pickup to me. Maybe they’ll flip him to the Yanks…😂 He is making 12.5 mill this year . Way out of the yankees price range
It actually is, because if the Yankees don't shed salary and stay under the top L-Tax threshold, that 12.5 million per season is $25 million per season because of the dollar for dollar Top Threshold L-Tax penalty. |
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Post by Max on Feb 3, 2024 11:24:33 GMT -5
I like Tierney, but a guy that traded for Verdugo and Soto doesn't need to wake up. Does Tierney know how much the Brewers wanted the Yankees to beat what the Orioles traded for Burnes? Hall was the Orioles MLB ready top pitching prospect, Ortiz might have been rated the Orioles 6th prospect, but The Martian is the only Yankee prospect rated ahead of Ortiz. |
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Post by themartian on Feb 3, 2024 11:37:41 GMT -5
The Rays add a reliever that's been linked to the Yanks. Will they go for Brasier? Market's starting to get a little thin. I do trust them pretty well though if they stand pat to know that they already have enough for Blake to work with. |
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Post by inger on Feb 3, 2024 11:55:58 GMT -5
The Rays add a reliever that's been linked to the Yanks. Will they go for Brasier? Market's starting to get a little thin. I do trust them pretty well though if they stand pat to know that they already have enough for Blake to work with. I like Brasier. I like him as much as I’d like a boil on my ass. It’s going to damned near kill me if I’m put in a position to have root for him. In addition to the 7.29 ERA he had for the Sox last year, he posted a 5.79 in 2022. I don’t know what he found in LA the second half of last season, but he turned 36 last August. Hope he’s not the answer to this little bullpen puzzle. Sometimes when the options get thin, it’s better to walk away that just to grab a body off the heap. I’d rather place hope in Scott Effross and someone out of the MiLB stepping up this season to boost our late inning chances…A rebound from Ron Marinaccio isn’t such a far-fetched thought, either… |
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Post by themartian on Feb 3, 2024 12:01:32 GMT -5
Will they go for Brasier? Market's starting to get a little thin. I do trust them pretty well though if they stand pat to know that they already have enough for Blake to work with. I like Brasier. I like him as much as I’d like a boil on my ass. It’s going to damned near kill me if I’m put in a position to have root for him. In addition to the 7.29 ERA he had for the Sox last year, he posted a 5.79 in 2022. I don’t know what he found in LA the second half of last season, but he turned 36 last August. Hope he’s not the answer to this little bullpen puzzle. Sometimes when the options get thin, it’s better to walk away that just to grab a body off the heap. I’d rather place hope in Scott Effross and someone out of the MiLB stepping up this season to boost our late inning chances…A rebound from Ron Marinaccio isn’t such a far-fetched thought, either… I've never had a boil on my ass but I take it you're not fond of those  Not sure who else they would be interested in at this point, maybe Stanek? But there have been rumors out there connecting them to Brasier and if they do end up signing him then you'd hope they have scouted him and figured out what the Dodgers did for him and think they can repeat it. I can't think of any other rumors connecting them to the rest of the available FA pen arms, Brasier and Maton were the last two I had seen anything written about at least. |
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Post by inger on Feb 3, 2024 12:10:21 GMT -5
I like Brasier. I like him as much as I’d like a boil on my ass. It’s going to damned near kill me if I’m put in a position to have root for him. In addition to the 7.29 ERA he had for the Sox last year, he posted a 5.79 in 2022. I don’t know what he found in LA the second half of last season, but he turned 36 last August. Hope he’s not the answer to this little bullpen puzzle. Sometimes when the options get thin, it’s better to walk away that just to grab a body off the heap. I’d rather place hope in Scott Effross and someone out of the MiLB stepping up this season to boost our late inning chances…A rebound from Ron Marinaccio isn’t such a far-fetched thought, either… I've never had a boil on my ass but I take it you're not fond of those Not sure who else they would be interested in at this point, maybe Stanek? But there have been rumors out there connecting them to Brasier and if they do end up signing him then you'd hope they have scouted him and figured out what the Dodgers did for him and think they can repeat it. I can't think of any other rumors connecting them to the rest of the available FA pen arms, Brasier and Maton were the last two I had seen anything written about at least. I haven’t had a boil anywhere since I was an under nourished youth. Even then I can’t recall one ever landing on my ass. 🤓 Stanek would be at least a 2x better choice in my mind…I’m surprised he’s still sitting out there at this point… |
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Post by inger on Feb 5, 2024 11:59:27 GMT -5
The Yankees have a deal to acquire left-handed reliever Caleb Ferguson in a trade with the Dodgers, a source told MLB.com's Mark Feinsand on Monday. MLB Network insider Joel Sherman reported New York is sending two prospects to Los Angeles in exchange. The teams have not confirmed the trade.
Ferguson, 27, posted a 3.43 ERA with 70 strikeouts and a 1.44 WHIP in 60 1/3 innings for Los Angeles last year. He made seven starts among his 68 appearances, all as a one-inning opener. He's also posted a 3.43 ERA over his five-year career, all with the Dodgers...
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Post by themartian on Feb 5, 2024 12:12:29 GMT -5
The Yankees have a deal to acquire left-handed reliever Caleb Ferguson in a trade with the Dodgers, a source told MLB.com's Mark Feinsand on Monday. MLB Network insider Joel Sherman reported New York is sending two prospects to Los Angeles in exchange. The teams have not confirmed the trade. Ferguson, 27, posted a 3.43 ERA with 70 strikeouts and a 1.44 WHIP in 60 1/3 innings for Los Angeles last year. He made seven starts among his 68 appearances, all as a one-inning opener. He's also posted a 3.43 ERA over his five-year career, all with the Dodgers... Kind of an elevated WHIP in 2023. He has a decent track record overall though, and through 2022/23 he's been tough to hit HRs off of. Looks like he's also switched from using a curve and change as his secondary pitches to a cutter and sometimes a sweeper. He's a LH pen arm and we needed one, so can't really complain. But I hope the prospects involved aren't any high end guys. |
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Post by cookback on Feb 5, 2024 12:27:48 GMT -5
The Yankees have a deal to acquire left-handed reliever Caleb Ferguson in a trade with the Dodgers, a source told MLB.com's Mark Feinsand on Monday. MLB Network insider Joel Sherman reported New York is sending two prospects to Los Angeles in exchange. The teams have not confirmed the trade. Ferguson, 27, posted a 3.43 ERA with 70 strikeouts and a 1.44 WHIP in 60 1/3 innings for Los Angeles last year. He made seven starts among his 68 appearances, all as a one-inning opener. He's also posted a 3.43 ERA over his five-year career, all with the Dodgers... Yankees To Acquire Caleb Ferguson From Dodgers By Darragh McDonald | February 5, 2024 at 11:17am CDT The Yankees are acquiring left-hander Caleb Ferguson from the Dodgers, reports Jon Heyman of The New York Post. The Dodgers will be receiving two prospects in exchange, per Joel Sherman of The New York Post. Heyman adds that lefty Matt Gage, who was just claimed by the Yankees last week, is also going to the Dodgers in the deal. Ferguson, 27, will be joining a new organization for the first time in his career. He was drafted by the Dodgers in 2014 and has been with them ever since. He made his debut in 2018, starting his first three major league outings before being moved to a relief role. Apart from some occasional starts as an opener, he’s stayed in the bullpen ever since. The results have been quite strong, with Ferguson making 96 appearances from 2018 to 2020, tossing 112 1/3 innings while allowing 3.93 earned runs per nine. He struck out 29.1% of batters faced in that time, gave out walks at an 8.7% clip and kept 44% of batted balls on the ground. Unfortunately, he required Tommy John surgery in September of 2020, wiping out the remainder of that campaign and preventing him from pitching at all in 2021.
He has since returned to the mound and has produced fairly similar statistics to before his injury layoff. In 126 appearances over 2022 and 2023, he has 113 2/3 innings pitched with a 2.85 ERA. He struck out 27.5% of opponents in that time, walking 8.8% of them and getting grounders at a 48% clip. Those results have come with Ferguson moving to higher leverage appearances, as he earned seven holds in 2022 and 17 last year.He is now in his final season of club control, slated for free agency after the upcoming season in which he’ll make a salary of $2.4MM. The Dodgers will flip that final year of Ferguson’s services for some future value, while the Yankees will sacrifice some long-term pieces to upgrade their club in the here and now. This is the second left-handed reliever that has gone from the Dodgers to the Yankees this offseason, with Victor González having been dealt to the Bronx in December. The Yankees have used Wandy Peralta as their primary lefty out of the bullpen in recent years, but he became a free agent this offseason and signed with the Padres last week. They now have Ferguson and González as their top southpaw relievers, alongside righties Clay Holmes, Jonathan Loáisiga and Tommy Kahnle. |
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Post by posadafan24 on Feb 5, 2024 12:29:47 GMT -5
Depending on the other prispects , thats not a bad trade . But they sre gonna need more than 60 innings from him , which has bern his max since being moved to the bullpen full time
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