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Post by posadafan24 on Feb 13, 2024 12:42:54 GMT -5
Sign Snell keep the prospects. Spend the money. Could still happen… I rather that happens than trade for bieber .
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Post by ypaterson on Feb 13, 2024 13:22:44 GMT -5
Every year there are good pitchers having career years. I'd rather wait for the trade deadline and try to get one of those than to pay a mega price for a Burnes or a Cease in ST. I think Burnes is a very good pitcher...but he ain't Cole. Same is true for Cease. Cashman screwed up when he did not add another arm earlier in FA but there are still a couple of 100 inning guys out there he might get. How much the Yankees are willing to give up probably depends a great deal on what Blake thinks of him. Blake has done an overall good job of getting more out of some pitchers. He's also had a couple fails, but I suspect the Yankees really trust his judgement. Blake's been good but he hasn't made me forget about Duncan or Sain but I do see him as having a huge say in the pitching program. I'd be happy if the Yankees just added a Lorenzen or even cheaper, S Miller. They just need to ensure they don't get off to a bad start.
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Post by inger on Feb 13, 2024 13:32:58 GMT -5
How much the Yankees are willing to give up probably depends a great deal on what Blake thinks of him. Blake has done an overall good job of getting more out of some pitchers. He's also had a couple fails, but I suspect the Yankees really trust his judgement. Blake's been good but he hasn't made me forget about Duncan or Sain but I do see him as having a huge say in the pitching program. I'd be happy if the Yankees just added a Lorenzen or even cheaper, S Miller. They just need to ensure they don't get off to a bad start. I don’t hate this idea. The name of the pitcher doesn’t matter much to me, but a sort of disposable piece that could start or relieve and has been useful but not so spoiled that they would understand his role, even a demotion to AAA or working the shuttle/DFA if not needed. Innings. Just someone to step in and give some innings… I guess that’s Weaver’s role at this point, so maybe we already have it…I don’t have much hope he’ll do enough to last through the season. Maybe we’ll see Warren win a job in ST…
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Post by qimqam on Feb 13, 2024 14:59:45 GMT -5
What about Mike Clevinger as a cheap wild card signing ? 2017-2020 - 41-20 with a 2.96 ERA 2020 - TJ Surgery 2021 - Missed Season (recovering from TJ Surgery) 2022 - 7-7 4.23 114 Inn 2023 - 9-9 3.77 131 Inn
Slowly seems to be getting back to full strength Floor 4th or 5th Starter Ceiling - Solid 3rd Starter with 2ish potential ??
He'd prob take a 2 year 12-15 million at this point ... He's certainly a better option than Montas @ $16M
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Post by posadafan24 on Feb 13, 2024 15:01:33 GMT -5
What about Mike Clevinger as a cheap wild card signing ? 2017-2020 - 41-20 with a 2.96 ERA 2020 - TJ Surgery 2021 - Missed Season (recovering from TJ Surgery) 2022 - 7-7 4.23 114 Inn 2023 - 9-9 3.77 131 Inn Slowly seems to be getting back to full strength Floor 4th or 5th Starter Ceiling - Solid 3rd Starter with 2ish potential ?? He'd prob take a 2 year 12-15 million at this point ... He's certainly a better option than Montas @ $16M [br I rather take my chances with warren as the 5thstarter
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Post by qimqam on Feb 13, 2024 15:11:06 GMT -5
What about Mike Clevinger as a cheap wild card signing ? 2017-2020 - 41-20 with a 2.96 ERA 2020 - TJ Surgery 2021 - Missed Season (recovering from TJ Surgery) 2022 - 7-7 4.23 114 Inn 2023 - 9-9 3.77 131 Inn Slowly seems to be getting back to full strength Floor 4th or 5th Starter Ceiling - Solid 3rd Starter with 2ish potential ?? He'd prob take a 2 year 12-15 million at this point ... He's certainly a better option than Montas @ $16M [br I rather take my chances with warren as the 5thstarter We might need both if Rodon and/or Cortez have issues
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Post by posadafan24 on Feb 13, 2024 15:18:48 GMT -5
[br I rather take my chances with warren as the 5thstarter We might need both if Rodon and/or Cortez have issues [b They also have schmidt.
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Post by ypaterson on Feb 13, 2024 15:36:34 GMT -5
What about Mike Clevinger as a cheap wild card signing ? 2017-2020 - 41-20 with a 2.96 ERA 2020 - TJ Surgery 2021 - Missed Season (recovering from TJ Surgery) 2022 - 7-7 4.23 114 Inn 2023 - 9-9 3.77 131 Inn Slowly seems to be getting back to full strength Floor 4th or 5th Starter Ceiling - Solid 3rd Starter with 2ish potential ?? He'd prob take a 2 year 12-15 million at this point ... He's certainly a better option than Montas @ $16M Clevinger is a little more than I wanted to spend...but if Hal is good with it so am I. Maybe an incentive laden deal with an opt out ?
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Post by qimqam on Feb 13, 2024 15:47:25 GMT -5
We might need both if Rodon and/or Cortez have issues [b They also have schmidt. He's already part of the 5 man rotation ... we are likely going to need at least 7 starters
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Post by ypaterson on Feb 13, 2024 15:47:46 GMT -5
Blake's been good but he hasn't made me forget about Duncan or Sain but I do see him as having a huge say in the pitching program. I'd be happy if the Yankees just added a Lorenzen or even cheaper, S Miller. They just need to ensure they don't get off to a bad start. I don’t hate this idea. The name of the pitcher doesn’t matter much to me, but a sort of disposable piece that could start or relieve and has been useful but not so spoiled that they would understand his role, even a demotion to AAA or working the shuttle/DFA if not needed. Innings. Just someone to step in and give some innings… I guess that’s Weaver’s role at this point, so maybe we already have it…I don’t have much hope he’ll do enough to last through the season. Maybe we’ll see Warren win a job in ST… Given how baseball is played today I expect the Yankees to need 8 guys to make a start at some point in the season. Even if luck is with us and we get good work from the "Scranton Express" there is a need for about 18 pitchers to take the mound during a season. I think there will be plenty of opportunity for Warren, Beeter, Gil or anyone else who shows big in the spring to get starts.
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Post by inger on Feb 13, 2024 15:51:06 GMT -5
What about Mike Clevinger as a cheap wild card signing ? 2017-2020 - 41-20 with a 2.96 ERA 2020 - TJ Surgery 2021 - Missed Season (recovering from TJ Surgery) 2022 - 7-7 4.23 114 Inn 2023 - 9-9 3.77 131 Inn Slowly seems to be getting back to full strength Floor 4th or 5th Starter Ceiling - Solid 3rd Starter with 2ish potential ?? He'd prob take a 2 year 12-15 million at this point ... He's certainly a better option than Montas @ $16M He’s got some good stuff. He’d need to cut his hair…
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Post by posadafan24 on Feb 13, 2024 15:51:57 GMT -5
[b They also have schmidt. He's already part of the 5 man rotation ... we are likely going to need at least 7 starters Actually they are saying warren may be the 5th starter so that would move schmidt to the bp as the 6th starter
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Post by fwclipper51 on Feb 13, 2024 17:24:37 GMT -5
From MLB Rumors
Yankees Claim Jordan Groshans, Designate Matt Krook By Anthony Franco | February 13, 2024 at 2:43pm CDT
The Yankees announced this afternoon that they’ve claimed infielder Jordan Groshans off waivers from the Marlins. New York designated lefty reliever Matt Krook for assignment to open a spot on the 40-man roster.
Miami designated Groshans for assignment last Tuesday as the corresponding transaction when they traded for fellow infielder Jonah Bride. Groshans heads back to the AL East, the division in which he began his career. A highly-regarded talent in high school, he was drafted 12th overall in 2018 by the Blue Jays. His stock had dipped by the 2022 trade deadline, when Toronto flipped him to the Fish for relievers Anthony Bass and Zach Pop.
Groshans got to the big leagues not long after that trade. He appeared in 17 MLB contests, hitting .262/.308/.311 with 1 HR through his 1st 65 plate appearances. Miami optioned him back to Triple-A to open the 2023 campaign. Groshans spent the whole year there, thanks in large part to a mediocre offensive season.
The right-handed hitter put up a .243/.339/.330 slash line over 528 trips to the plate. He showed strong awareness of the strike zone, walking at a 12.5% clip while striking out only 17.4% of the time. Groshans provided very little impact when he made contact, though, hitting just 6 home runs, 20 doubles and a triple. He split his defensive work between the 2 corner infield spots, playing mostly 3rd base. Groshans had experience in the middle infield early in his career but was always viewed by most prospect evaluators as a better fit at the hot corner.
Last year was Groshans’ 1st minor league option season. New York can still send him to Triple-A Scranton/Wilkes-Barre for the next 2 years, if they keep him on the 40-man roster. He slots in at the back of an infield depth chart that also features Oswald Peraza, Oswaldo Cabrera and Jorbit Vivas behind the starting group of Anthony Rizzo, Gleyber Torres, DJ LeMahieu and Anthony Volpe.
Taking a flier on Groshans could come at the expense of Krook, a 29-year-old who made his major league debut last season. The Oregon product pitched in 4 MLB games, walking 6 batters and allowing 11 runs in 4 innings. While that’s obviously a dismal small-sample showing, Krook turned in a 1.32 ERA through 34 frames in Scranton. He punched out 39% of batters faced in Triple-A.
The 6’4″ southpaw clearly has swing-and-miss potential, yet he has never thrown strikes at a tenable rate. Krook walked over 18% of opposing hitters with the RailRiders last season. He’d issued free passes at a 12.1% rate there the year before that, leading New York to move him to the bullpen by 2023. That didn’t result in the necessary step forward in his command, but it’s possible another team takes a flier given the gaudy minor league whiff rates. The Yankees have a week to trade Krook or attempt to run him through waivers.
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Post by cookback on Feb 14, 2024 19:07:29 GMT -5
From MLBTrade rumors...
Young: Rangers Do Not Expect Further Additions By Steve Adams | February 14, 2024 at 4:28pm CDT
Rangers fans have been holding out hope for a reunion with left-hander Jordan Montgomery, but general manager Chris Young threw plenty of cold water on that possibility Wednesday, telling the team’s beat that any notable acquisitions are unlikely at this point (link via Evan Grant of the Dallas Morning News).
“I don’t think there are any additions coming at this point,” Young candidly stated. While he maintained that the Rangers will “keep an open mind” on free agents (including Montgomery), he also noted that long-term uncertainty regarding the team’s television contract “is real” and has impacted spending this offseason — even on the heels of a World Series win.
Hmmmm... Reunion in sight ?
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Post by inger on Feb 14, 2024 19:11:28 GMT -5
From MLBTrade rumors...
Young: Rangers Do Not Expect Further Additions By Steve Adams | February 14, 2024 at 4:28pm CDT
Rangers fans have been holding out hope for a reunion with left-hander Jordan Montgomery, but general manager Chris Young threw plenty of cold water on that possibility Wednesday, telling the team’s beat that any notable acquisitions are unlikely at this point (link via Evan Grant of the Dallas Morning News).
“I don’t think there are any additions coming at this point,” Young candidly stated. While he maintained that the Rangers will “keep an open mind” on free agents (including Montgomery), he also noted that long-term uncertainty regarding the team’s television contract “is real” and has impacted spending this offseason — even on the heels of a World Series win.
Hmmmm... Reunion in sight ? Tepid hopes arise…
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